OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread mathieu jacquet
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OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Bill Swallow
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Revision marks (bars)

2011-02-24 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Dan, thanks for that incredibly helpful tip! I had no idea that this functionality existed to insert change bars. Your Alt-o-y-c method has the added advantage of not changing the character formatting of the selected text. So, for example, if I put change bars on italicized text, those italics

OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread beth.tr...@verizon.net
It is not the word count but the amount of time to "round trip" the document, engineering costs from Frame to xml and back. The second part of that is the DTP. Frame does a cleaner round-trip than word so less DTP time for cleaning up the formatting. I hope that helps. We translate into 29 lang

Revision marks (bars)

2011-02-24 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Dan, thanks for that incredibly helpful tip! I had no idea that this functionality existed to insert change bars. Your Alt-o-y-c method has the added advantage of not changing the character formatting of the selected text. So, for example, if I put change bars on italicized text, those italics

Re: OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Bill Swallow
Quite a few factors go into a full soup to nuts translation of a document. Software used is rarely one of them, as that can be obtained or worked around as necessary. One of the big gotchas is cleanliness of source language files. My guess is that your anecdotal reference pertains to usual use of t

RE: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Alison Craig
Actually, FrameMaker translation costs *can* be higher and I have some apples to apples experience on this. When I first moved our manuals to FrameMaker, I sent the files for a trial quote as the final product was 99.9% identical to the Word file content I used to create the FM files - which ha

Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Alison Craig
Framemaker documents compared to MSWord documents. Someone told me Frame was generally cheaper, but they could not supply a source for the data. Thanks, Roy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attach

RE: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, Roy. We used a translator in Mexico to convert our technical specification docs from English to Spanish for release to our customers in Mexico. As I recall, their rates were identical for Word or FrameMaker files - these were all technical documents, with very limited graphics or drawing co

Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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RE: OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi Roy, prices should be the same as long as you pay a "per word" price. Whether your document is written in Word or Frame does not matter, it contains the same number of words. Vendors charging extra cost for "layout", "image translating" etc. just try to add as many items as they can on the

OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Roy Lewis
I apologize for going off topic but can anyone point to figures that compares translation costs for Framemaker documents compared to MSWord documents. Someone told me Frame was generally cheaper, but they could not supply a source for the data. Thanks, Roy __

OT: Translation cost comparison

2011-02-24 Thread Roy Lewis
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Embedded TOC questions

2011-02-24 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Dan, You have to replace the space by tabs on the reference page. There for each of your TOC paragraph formats there are placeholders. Something like: <$paranum> <$paratext> <$pagenum> Just replace the space between the paratext and the pagenum placeholders with _two_ tabs (if you have a tab

RE: framers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 21

2011-02-24 Thread Thornton, Daniel
We used to use a character tag for change bars, but found that method made it impossible to use FrameMaker's convenient change bar clearing feature when we migrated to the next product release (Format>Document>Change Bars... select "Clear All Change Bars (No Undo)"). That FM feature saves you from

RE: Embedded TOC questions

2011-02-24 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Dan, You have to replace the space by tabs on the reference page. There for each of your TOC paragraph formats there are placeholders. Something like: <$paranum> <$paratext> <$pagenum> Just replace the space between the paratext and the pagenum placeholders with _two_ tabs (if you have a tab