Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Shelly Schneider
An additional contractor has been brought on by my company. If I can find a low-price copy of FrameMaker, perhaps she won't end up moving her docs to Word (shudder). I know folks on this list swear by FrameMaker 8. FrameMaker 9 was a bug-fest. I doubt I'll find many people offering FrameMaker 10. I

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Courlis
extent are these earlier versions used (???) Anyone have a "best guess" or some data ? T I A peter From: Shelly Schneider To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 10:21 PM Subject: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker An addit

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
: Shelly Schneider; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Shelly Schneider is (potentially) looking for a copy of Frame Maker 8.2. Which brings to mind an interesting question. Does anyone know of the distribution of F M'er (versions) in use? That is, some ea

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > The Windows versions that I used/upgraded-to were (early numbering may > be incorrect, but everything after 7.0 is correct): > > 5.0, 5.5, 5.6, 6.0, 7.0, 7.2, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, and 11.0 Pretty close. I recall having a 5.1 version, and it was 5.5.6, not 5.6. Loved that v

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Fred Ridder
7.2. -Fred Ridder From: syed.hos...@aeris.net To: neat_gent at yahoo.com; shelly at softest.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:09:24 -0700 Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker There isn?t any FM 8.2 that I know of. The Windows versions that I used

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:22 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Peter Courlis; Shelly Schneider; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: >

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
yahoo.com; shelly at softest.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Just a few minor corrections/amplifications: 5.0 was the last release from Frame Technology. 5.1 (which I think may have officially been 5.1.2) was the first release from Adobe. 5.6 is an

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Scott Prentice
--Original Message- > From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:22 AM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Peter Courlis; Shelly > Schneider; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMa

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:23 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker In addition to the wealth of other types of FrameMaker information and tools on his website, Klaus Daube has a very informative history of FrameMak

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
7.2 was the one that added multiple undo. 8 added Unicode support. 9 included the incompetent UI makeover and broke keyboard navigation. 10 doesn't seem much different to me. Used copies of FrameMaker turn up on eBay now and then. Currently I see copies of 6, 7, 7.1, and 7.2. Which version are yo

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:08:30 -0400, Fred Ridder wrote: >There was indeed a 7.1 version between 7.0 and 7.2. Yes, and it was the last version produced by the engineering team Adobe acquired with Frame Technology. The 7.2 version was the first from Adobe India. As a side note, Adobe acquired RH a

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Mike Wickham
I'm pretty sure there was also a 7.1 version. Mike Wickham On 10/2/2012 9:22 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: > Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > >> The Windows versions that I used/upgraded-to were (early numbering may >> be incorrect, but everything after 7.0 is correct): >> >> 5.0, 5.5, 5.6, 6.0, 7.0, 7.

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Wolfgang Schapat
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Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread Helen Borrie
At 03:21 PM 2/10/2012, Shelly Schneider wrote: >An additional contractor has been brought on by my company. If I can find a >low-price copy of FrameMaker, perhaps she won?t end up moving her docs to Word >(shudder). I know folks on this list swear by FrameMaker 8. FrameMaker 9 was a >bug-fest.

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Richard Combs wrote: > Pretty close. I recall having a 5.1 version, and it was 5.5.6, not 5.6. Loved that version -- absolutely rock-solid, and it had an > > excellent manual (the last excellent manual, IMHO). Oh man, that is the truth!!! TVB

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread David Artman
> Original Message > From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" > I did think 8 was an improvement, but the road > after that turned so sharply downhill it resembled > falling off a cliff... IMNSHO. I still use 8; > we have the later ones for testing with Mif2Go, > but do not use them for any o

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread Shelly Schneider
Thanks to all for your responses. Now all I have to do is sell the idea, before I buy the software> Shelly Schneider I love flying. I've been to almost as many places as my luggage. Bob Hope

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread Peter Courlis
e: From: David Artman Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker To: "Jeremy H. Griffith" , "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Cc: shelly at softest.com Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 2:45 PM > Original Message > From: "Jeremy H. Griffith"

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread Chris Coggins
We purchased our copies of Frame a couple years ago from evaluesoftware, for download versions only (no CD). They currently have Frame 10 Full Version under $500, which is tempting to add another copy or two to our library. http://www.evaluesoftware.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2123 On Mon, Oc

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread David Artman
Original Message Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker >David said: "that's why I was off-list for almost six years: working long-term >for a client that's on DITA and uses a seriously robust editor. >Please tell me What Editor you were using for

Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-01 Thread Shelly Schneider
An additional contractor has been brought on by my company. If I can find a low-price copy of FrameMaker, perhaps she won't end up moving her docs to Word (shudder). I know folks on this list swear by FrameMaker 8. FrameMaker 9 was a bug-fest. I doubt I'll find many people offering FrameMaker 10. I

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Courlis
extent are these earlier versions used (???) Anyone have a "best guess" or some data ? T I A peter From: Shelly Schneider To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 10:21 PM Subject: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker An addit

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Schneider; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Shelly Schneider is (potentially) looking for a copy of Frame Maker 8.2. Which brings to mind an interesting question. Does anyone know of the distribution of F M'er (versions) in use? That is, some ea

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > The Windows versions that I used/upgraded-to were (early numbering may > be incorrect, but everything after 7.0 is correct): > > 5.0, 5.5, 5.6, 6.0, 7.0, 7.2, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, and 11.0 Pretty close. I recall having a 5.1 version, and it was 5.5.6, not 5.6. Loved that

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Fred Ridder
7.2. -Fred Ridder From: syed.hos...@aeris.net To: neat_g...@yahoo.com; she...@softest.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:09:24 -0700 Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker There isn’t any FM 8.2 that I know of. The Windows versions that I used/upgraded

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:22 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Peter Courlis; Shelly Schneider; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > The Win

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
.com; she...@softest.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Just a few minor corrections/amplifications: 5.0 was the last release from Frame Technology. 5.1 (which I think may have officially been 5.1.2) was the first release from Adobe. 5.6 is an incorrect n

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Scott Prentice
s, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:22 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Peter Courlis; Shelly Schneider; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: The Windows versions that I used/upgrad

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:23 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker In addition to the wealth of other types of FrameMaker information and tools on his website, Klaus Daube has a very informative history of FrameMak

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
7.2 was the one that added multiple undo. 8 added Unicode support. 9 included the incompetent UI makeover and broke keyboard navigation. 10 doesn't seem much different to me. Used copies of FrameMaker turn up on eBay now and then. Currently I see copies of 6, 7, 7.1, and 7.2. Which version are yo

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:08:30 -0400, Fred Ridder wrote: >There was indeed a 7.1 version between 7.0 and 7.2. Yes, and it was the last version produced by the engineering team Adobe acquired with Frame Technology. The 7.2 version was the first from Adobe India. As a side note, Adobe acquired RH a

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Mike Wickham
I'm pretty sure there was also a 7.1 version. Mike Wickham On 10/2/2012 9:22 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: The Windows versions that I used/upgraded-to were (early numbering may be incorrect, but everything after 7.0 is correct): 5.0, 5.5, 5.6, 6.0, 7.0, 7.2, 8.0, 9.0,

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Helen Borrie
At 03:21 PM 2/10/2012, Shelly Schneider wrote: >An additional contractor has been brought on by my company. If I can find a >low-price copy of FrameMaker, perhaps she won’t end up moving her docs to Word >(shudder). I know folks on this list swear by FrameMaker 8. FrameMaker 9 was a >bug-fest.

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-02 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Richard Combs wrote: > Pretty close. I recall having a 5.1 version, and it was 5.5.6, not 5.6. Loved that version -- absolutely rock-solid, and it had an > > excellent manual (the last excellent manual, IMHO). Oh man, that is the truth!!! TVB ___

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread David Artman
> Original Message > From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" > I did think 8 was an improvement, but the road > after that turned so sharply downhill it resembled > falling off a cliff... IMNSHO. I still use 8; > we have the later ones for testing with Mif2Go, > but do not use them for any o

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread Shelly Schneider
Thanks to all for your responses. Now all I have to do is sell the idea, before I buy the software> Shelly Schneider I love flying. I've been to almost as many places as my luggage. Bob Hope ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@ma

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-03 Thread Peter Courlis
e: From: David Artman Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker To: "Jeremy H. Griffith" , "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Cc: she...@softest.com Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 2:45 PM > Original Message > From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" >

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-04 Thread Chris Coggins
We purchased our copies of Frame a couple years ago from evaluesoftware, for download versions only (no CD). They currently have Frame 10 Full Version under $500, which is tempting to add another copy or two to our library. http://www.evaluesoftware.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2123 On Mon, Oc

RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

2012-10-04 Thread David Artman
Original Message Subject: RE: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker >David said: "that's why I was off-list for almost six years: working long-term >for a client that's on DITA and uses a seriously robust editor. >Please tell me What Editor you were using for