Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
They never issued updates for releases for which support has expired. The question is whether they're continuing to issue updates for FM 2015 now that FM 2017 is out. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Craig Ede wrote: > This page gives some information about when the last

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Craig Ede
n email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Any company that wants to sell installed software to large organizations can't limit support (which includes major bug fixes and security updates) to the current release. Adob

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Any company that wants to sell installed software to large organizations can't limit support (which includes major bug fixes and security updates) to the current release. Adobe used to do that for FrameMaker. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Craig Ede wrote: > And what if

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Craig Ede
ers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 12:24 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop I would be very surprised to

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Peter Gold
You're welcome, Pat. I got a big laugh from it the first time I saw it back in the '90s. IIRC, Janice Gelb originally posted it. As I think more on it, I'm pretty sure that she claimed to have translated it. Whatever, she deserves the credit! On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Pat Christenson <

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Lin Sims
If you're talking about the Esc shortcuts, I hadn't heard that they'd been deprecated. They're certainly still documented in the Keyboard Shortcuts appendix (up through FrameMaker 2015). I don't know if I'd expect Adobe to fix earlier versions, but it would be nice if it could be fixed

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Fred Ridder
behalf of Craig Ede <craig...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 1:12 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Let's see what happens with bug-fixes to the older versi

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Craig Ede
ch; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Many, many thanks Rick! If an update or bug-fix is released, it will hopefully apply downward to at least FM10 (which I run at home) and FM11 (which I run at my office) bec

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Pat Christenson
for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop So, the ancient recollection of something eating keystrokes was generically on the right troubleshooting path. Hooray! As to other old memories: Ful

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Lin Sims
...@bellsouth.net>; An email list for people using > Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop > > On 2 May 2017 at 14:36, Ken Poshedly wrote: > > > Folks, > > At least every o

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Ken Poshedly
s to me, all keyboard > shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be > done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened again > this morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know what I mean.) > > The only fix I know of i

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Stefan Gentz
3, 2017 10:21 To: Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net>; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop On 2 May 2017 at 14:36, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Folks, > At lea

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Steve Rickaby
This is going OT but it's interesting to see how much deep and embedded bitterness bullets and numbering in Word have engendered. FWIW, when I faced this issue in anger many, many years ago I hired an MVP I knew to sort it all out. She assured me that Word's underlying numbering 'engine' was

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Klaus Daube
On 2 May 2017 at 14:36, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Folks, > At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard > shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be > done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it ha

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig, Alison
: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Don't get me started on bullets and autonumbering in MS applications. Once upon a time it just worked. And then they started making it more "helpful" and automatic... and unreliable and impossible to troubleshoot when it breaks. But i

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Peter Gold
So, the ancient recollection of something eating keystrokes was generically on the right troubleshooting path. Hooray! As to other old memories: FullWrite Professional (a promising feature-filled Mac word processor) had the fantastic ability to randomly animate bullet points, so, there was no

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Fred Ridder
: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft. (What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for an engineering firm and ordered to use only Word &qu

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I can't remember a Microsoft product release with similarly serious bugs that still weren't fixed eight years or six major releases later. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft. > (What does he mean by

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Ken Poshedly
So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft. (What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for an engineering firm and ordered to use only Word "so the engineers could correct my work." (Ptooey!) I remember an incident where I used Word's paragraph tag-method to tag

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
It's an artifact of the nonstandard, buggy UI Adobe layered on top of the legacy FrameMaker code in FM9. The API or whatever that transmits the keystrokes from the new layer to the legacy code occasionally stops working. I've never seen similar behavior in any other application on the half-dozen

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
The only commonality I've seen is FrameMaker from version 9 on up, which was when the interface was redesigned. I've seen numerous gripes since that time that the new coding had broken some of the keyboard shortcuts, but it used to be restricted to just the UNIX carryovers. Recently,I've actually

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Peter Gold
Just a couple of wild thoughts pulled from long-ago experiences: It sounds as if the normal flow of keystrokes is being affected somehow. In the hardware domain, is it possible that there are keyboard driver issues - updates needed, multiple conflicting keyboards or other input devices, multiple

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
We recently (as in the beginning of this year) upgraded to FM2015. I think I'm going to add Alison's checks / process to my final processing. I haven't had colors show up, but I have had issues with text that has conditional tags either showing up (or not showing up) inappropriately. And hope I

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread techcommtools.com
FWIW, I’ve had great results with conditional text in Fm2015 and Fm2017. And each subsequent release since Fm10 (including Fm2017) has crashed less than the previous. I run Fm on a very lean (75 Gb Virtual disk, running Win 8.1) with 16 Gb memory. Specifically, the changes in conditional text

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig, Alison
Sims Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 11:19 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Wait, what? What sort of glitches with condition text? I ask because (as previously seen) I am making heavy use of conditions to crea

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
asound.com > > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound.com@lists. > frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:56 AM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I reported that bug in 2009, the first time I used the weird UI introduced in FM9. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can > get it to work again is reboot - more often

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig, Alison
ultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:56 AM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can get

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Tammy Van Boening
for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Yeah, pretty much what Robert said. Frame8 was the last version where the keyboard shortcuts worked as intended all the time. Something about instituting t

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
Yeah, pretty much what Robert said. Frame8 was the last version where the keyboard shortcuts worked as intended all the time. Something about instituting the new interface broke things. As someone who used to use those shortcuts ALL THE TIME, it's annoying that some don't work ever

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig Ede
t for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Upgrade to FrameMaker 8? On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Folks, > At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, a

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Fred Ridder
ail@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 10:36 AM To: Framers List Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop Folks, At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop w

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
Upgrade to FrameMaker 8? On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Folks, > At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard > shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be > done v

[Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Ken Poshedly
Folks, At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened again this morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know

Keyboard shortcuts -- Was: Re: making stuff unconditional in FM12

2014-03-31 Thread Linda Pelton
I'm going to disagree only with the keyboard shortcuts comment -- they sort of fixed it is the most generous comment I can make. If you were a dedicated keyboardist, the new keyboard shortcut is slower than -- well molasses in January. On first starting Frame you wait the first time

Keyboard shortcuts causing crash on FM appserver installation

2013-07-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
: Keyboard shortcuts causing crash on FM appserver installation Hi, all. A new FrameMaker 11 installation on a Citrix application server crashes instantly when I press F8 or F9, as well as the alternate Ctrl+8/Ctrl+9 shortcuts. It's the regular FrameMaker "serious problem" message, showing

Keyboard shortcuts causing crash on FM appserver installation

2013-07-23 Thread Mike Thorn
Hi, all. A new FrameMaker 11 installation on a Citrix application server crashes instantly when I press F8 or F9, as well as the alternate Ctrl+8/Ctrl+9 shortcuts. It's the regular FrameMaker serious problem message, showing internal error codes 11024, 23327044, 26070837. OS: Windows Server 2008

Keyboard shortcuts causing crash on FM appserver installation

2013-07-22 Thread Mike Thorn
Hi, all. A new FrameMaker 11 installation on a Citrix application server crashes instantly when I press F8 or F9, as well as the alternate Ctrl+8/Ctrl+9 shortcuts. It's the regular FrameMaker "serious problem" message, showing internal error codes 11024, 23327044, 26070837. OS: Windows Server

Keyboard shortcuts - strange behaviour

2011-12-19 Thread Laura Fergusson
Hi all I tend to use shortcuts a lot in Framemaker 8 on PC - but have noticed for a while that if my mouse is hovering over the toolbars, they don't work! Move the mouse to the main body of text, they work fine! Anyone else noticed this and is there anything I can do about it? Laura Laura

Keyboard shortcuts - strange behaviour

2011-12-19 Thread Laura Fergusson
Hi all I tend to use shortcuts a lot in Framemaker 8 on PC - but have noticed for a while that if my mouse is hovering over the toolbars, they don't work! Move the mouse to the main body of text, they work fine! Anyone else noticed this and is there anything I can do about it? Laura Laura

RE: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7, 64 bit (new, PITA PC) FM Experience: 2+years I've looked in the Adobe FM PDF and can't find the keyboard shortcuts I'm looking for... Is there a way to select multiple Condition tags and apply them in one step

RE: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-12 Thread Lief Erickson
: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:01 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts FYI - FM10 now has a sort of a limited repeat key built in to it. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun

AW: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-12 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Winfried Von: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] Im Auftrag von Alison Craig Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Juli 2011 01:57 An: framers at lists.frameusers.com Betreff: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS

Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
eusers.com Subject: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7, 64 bit (new, PITA PC) FM Experience: 2+years I've looked in the Adobe FM PDF and can't find the keyboard shortcuts I'm looking for... Is there a way to select multiple Condition tags and

Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-12 Thread Lief Erickson
: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:01 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts FYI - FM10 now has a sort of a limited "repeat" key built in to it. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:fr

Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-11 Thread Alison Craig
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7, 64 bit (new, PITA PC) FM Experience: 2+years I've looked in the Adobe FM PDF and can't find the keyboard shortcuts I'm looking for... Is there a way to select multiple Condition tags and apply them in one step? And after you've selected

RE: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-11 Thread Flato, Gillian
...@nanometrics.commailto:gfl...@nanometrics.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts FM 9 Version: 9.0p255

Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-11 Thread Alison Craig
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7, 64 bit (new, PITA PC) FM Experience: 2+years I've looked in the Adobe FM PDF and can't find the keyboard shortcuts I'm looking for... Is there a way to select multiple Condition tags and apply them in one step? And after you've selected

Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

2011-07-11 Thread Flato, Gillian
at nanometrics.com<mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:57 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Conditional Text and Keyboard Shortcuts

Re: Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
field so that I can select something from either list. The only fields that have Alt-code shortcuts are Document, Go to Source, Format, Edit Format, and Convert to Text. Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note

Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
there > is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am not > asking about ESC-sequence shortcuts as were recently discussed on this > list.) I hate this loss in functionality by "upgrading" to a newer > product. > > Carol > >

Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-06-30 Thread Carol J. Elkins
, Go to Source, Format, Edit Format, and Convert to Text. Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am not asking about ESC-sequence shortcuts as were recently discussed on this list.) I hate this loss

Re: Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-06-30 Thread Stuart Rogers
that have Alt-code shortcuts are Document, Go to Source, Format, Edit Format, and Convert to Text. Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am not asking about ESC-sequence shortcuts as were recently discussed

Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-06-30 Thread Carol J. Elkins
, Go to Source, Format, Edit Format, and Convert to Text. Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am not asking about ESC-sequence shortcuts as were recently discussed on this list.) I hate this loss

Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-06-30 Thread Stuart Rogers
mething from either list. The only fields that have Alt-code > shortcuts are Document, Go to Source, Format, Edit Format, and Convert > to Text. > > Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there is > a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am no

RE: Keyboard shortcuts?

2010-06-14 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
, June 12, 2010 5:37 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Keyboard shortcuts? Hi all - I've lost a lot of my old notes and I've been unable to find this info on the Web. Maybe some of you will remember this. - This may have been part of a Frame plugin but it was a keyboard shortcut to hunt

Keyboard shortcuts?

2010-06-14 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Christenson > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 5:37 AM > To: Frame Users > Subject: Keyboard shortcuts? > > Hi all - > > I've lost a lot of my old notes and I've been unable to find this > info on the Web. Maybe some of you will remember this. > > - This may have been pa

Re: Keyboard shortcuts?

2010-06-12 Thread Mike Wickham
to generate a list of all the FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts, including those for plugins installed on your system. You're looking for the ListShortcuts plugin: http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/listshortcuts.php It does have this note, though: Note that the FM8 version of ListShortcuts is still

Keyboard shortcuts?

2010-06-12 Thread Mike Wickham
at you would run to generate a list of > all the FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts, including those for plugins > installed on your system. You're looking for the ListShortcuts plugin: http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/listshortcuts.php It does have this note, though: "Note that the F

Keyboard shortcuts?

2010-06-11 Thread Pat Christenson
. - There was a utility or command that you would run to generate a list of all the FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts, including those for plugins installed on your system. I hope someone knows what I'm talking about and can help out. Thanks in advance. Pat Christenson

Keyboard shortcuts?

2010-06-11 Thread Pat Christenson
Esc. - There was a utility or command that you would run to generate a list of all the FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts, including those for plugins installed on your system. I hope someone knows what I'm talking about and can help out. Thanks in advance. Pat Christenson

Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-27 Thread Stuart Rogers
Avraham Makeler wrote: Hi David, Thanks for the effort you're putting into this. Press and hold Ctrl while pressing the letter m, release both keys, and then press and hold Ctrl while pressing the letter f (Ctrl+M Ctrl+F). A little earlier, I got the following reply from somebody offlist:

Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-27 Thread Avraham Makeler
You have said that it is irrelevant whether the CTRL key is held or released between operations, as long as it is held when the M and F keys are pressed. Of course this is so; that's how computer keyboards work. The computer pays no attention to whether a modifier key is released, because it

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-27 Thread Stuart Rogers
Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi David, > Thanks for the effort you're putting into this. > >>> Press and hold Ctrl while pressing the letter m, release both keys, and > then press and hold Ctrl while pressing the letter f (Ctrl+M Ctrl+F). > > A little earlier, I got the following reply from somebody

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-27 Thread Avraham Makeler
>> You have said that it is irrelevant whether the CTRL key is held or released between operations, as long as it is held when the M and F keys are pressed. Of course this is so; that's how computer keyboards work. The computer pays no attention to whether a modifier key is released, because it

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts I have a general question on writing keyboard shortcuts - but no particularly connected to FM. So I was referred to this forum sicne there is the general impression that FM users are the champions of extremely long and complex

RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread David Spreadbury
Makeler Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts Hi all, RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts I have a general question on writing keyboard shortcuts - but no particularly connected

Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread Avraham Makeler
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts Hi all, RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts I have a general question on writing keyboard shortcuts - but no particularly connected to FM. So I was referred to this forum sicne

RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread David Spreadbury
the wording in the Adobe description but that is how it is worded. From: Avraham Makeler [mailto:amake...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:51 AM To: David Spreadbury Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts Two questions

Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread Avraham Makeler
: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts Two questions: Will Ctrl+M, followed by Ctrl+F, give the proper results? Yes Will Ctrl+M+F give the proper results? No Thanks, avi On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:12 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts I have a general question on writing keyboard shortcuts - but no particularly connected to FM. So I was referred to this forum sicne there is the general impression that FM users are the champions of extremely long and complex

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread David Spreadbury
On Behalf Of Avraham Makeler Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:57 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts Hi all, RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts I have a general question on writing keyboard shortcuts - but no pa

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread Avraham Makeler
ists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Avraham Makeler > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:57 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts > > Hi all, > > RE: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts > > &

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread David Spreadbury
the wording in the Adobe description but that is how it is worded. From: Avraham Makeler [mailto:amake...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:51 AM To: David Spreadbury Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts >> Two que

The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts

2009-04-26 Thread Avraham Makeler
[mailto:amakeler at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:51 AM > *To:* David Spreadbury > *Cc:* framers at lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Re: The correct shorthand for writing keyboard shortcuts > > > > >> Two questions: > > >> Will Ctrl+M, followed by Ctrl+

RE: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi, One plus about FM9 -- the User Guide actually has a long chapter devoted to keyboard shortcuts for navigation, menu choices, equation editor, and so on. Such documentation was woefully lacking in previous versions. At least the comment regarding missing documentation in previous

[Fwd: RE: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)]

2009-04-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
FYI -- good news. Stuart Original Message Subject: RE: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:23:00 -0700 From: RJ Jacquez rjacq...@adobe.com Hi Stuart, I'm looking into useful keyboard shortcuts and will report back asap. BTW, I'm a huge

Re: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Wickham
At the very least, give us a list of keyboard commands for UI manipulation. I found some commands in wincmds.cfg: (Toggle) Between open document tabs? Ctrl-F6 (ShowNextKit) and Shift-Ctrl-F6 (ShowPrevKit) There is still some bugginess, though. The commands worked always in with .FM files.

Re: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Peter Gold
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: At the very least, give us a list of keyboard commands for UI manipulation. I found some commands in wincmds.cfg: (Toggle) Between open document tabs? Ctrl-F6 (ShowNextKit) and Shift-Ctrl-F6 (ShowPrevKit) There is

Re: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Wickham
I'm on my Mac now, so I can't check this out, but in FM 8 and earlier, PgUp/PgDn would cycle through Paragraph, Character, and (I think) Table designer property pages. I just checked and PgUp/PgDn does the same in FM9. However, the highlight isn't changing to icon for the new property page.

[Fwd: RE: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)]

2009-04-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
FYI -- good news. Stuart Original Message Subject: RE: FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:23:00 -0700 From: RJ Jacquez <rjacq...@adobe.com> Hi Stuart, I'm looking into useful keyboard shortcuts and will report back asap. BTW, I'm

FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Wickham
>At the very least, give us a list of keyboard commands for UI manipulation. I found some commands in wincmds.cfg: > (Toggle) Between open document tabs? Ctrl-F6 (ShowNextKit) and Shift-Ctrl-F6 (ShowPrevKit) There is still some bugginess, though. The commands worked always in with .FM files.

FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Peter Gold
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: >>At the very least, give us a list of keyboard commands for UI manipulation. > > I found some commands in wincmds.cfg: > >> (Toggle) Between open document tabs? > > Ctrl-F6 (ShowNextKit) and Shift-Ctrl-F6 (ShowPrevKit) > There is still some

FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Wickham
> I'm on my Mac now, so I can't check this out, but in FM 8 and earlier, > PgUp/PgDn would cycle through Paragraph, Character, and (I think) > Table designer property pages. I just checked and PgUp/PgDn does the same in FM9. However, the highlight isn't changing to icon for the new property

FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-04-01 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi, > One "plus" about FM9 -- the User Guide actually has a long chapter > devoted to keyboard shortcuts for navigation, menu choices, equation > editor, and so on. Such documentation was woefully lacking > in previous > versions. At least the comment regard

FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-03-31 Thread Stuart Rogers
to keyboard shortcuts for navigation, menu choices, equation editor, and so on. Such documentation was woefully lacking in previous versions. A very big MINUS: almost no shortcuts are described for dealing with the user interface. Nor do shortcuts appear in the tool tips of the interface itself

FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)

2009-03-31 Thread Stuart Rogers
ong chapter devoted to keyboard shortcuts for navigation, menu choices, equation editor, and so on. Such documentation was woefully lacking in previous versions. A very big MINUS: almost no shortcuts are described for dealing with the user interface. Nor do shortcuts appear in the tool ti

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Litchfield
Thanks Carla, On 22/01/2009, at 3:53 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > > > === > > You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as > previous versions. This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that it only responds to the first letter you press and if

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Litchfield
On 22/01/2009, at 8:16 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > > > Please, file your comments with Adobe. Let them know that YOU find > this > a deal-breaker, and why. > Where? But as I said, whistling in the wind... > Now, all that said, a couple of the beta testers who write > FrameScripts > said

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Litchfield
OK. Can anyone confirm if the other commands are lost too? Such as the meta key commands? I can't install this new version onto my old computer. Alan

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Martinek, Carla
One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order. Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches. Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts. Prior to FM8p277

Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Alan Litchfield
Thanks Carla, On 22/01/2009, at 3:53 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: === You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as previous versions. This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that it only responds to the first letter you press and if you

Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Jim Owens
Martinek, Carla wrote: [stuff deleted] === You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as previous versions. . . . . . To get to the c7 style, I'd have to press c seven times, or c once and the down arrow six times. I might as well use the mouse

RE: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Martinek, Carla
-Original Message- This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that it only responds to the first letter you press and if you press the second it then jumps to the style that starts with that, if there is one? Exactly. If you type t2 and press enter, the first style

Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Alan Litchfield
On 22/01/2009, at 8:16 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: Please, file your comments with Adobe. Let them know that YOU find this a deal-breaker, and why. Where? But as I said, whistling in the wind... Now, all that said, a couple of the beta testers who write FrameScripts said they could

Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Alan Litchfield
OK. Can anyone confirm if the other commands are lost too? Such as the meta key commands? I can't install this new version onto my old computer. Alan ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to

Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Art Campbell
On my (pre-release/beta) 9 install, all the format shortcuts are working. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Martinek, Carla
One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order. Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches. Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts. Prior to FM8p277

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Jim Owens
Martinek, Carla wrote: [stuff deleted] > === > > You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as > previous versions. . . > . . . To get to the c7 style, I'd have to press c seven times, or > c once and the down arrow six times. I might as well use the

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

2009-01-21 Thread Martinek, Carla
-Original Message- > This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that > it only responds to the first letter you press and if you > press the second it then jumps to the style that starts > with that, if there is one? Exactly. If you type "t2" and press enter, the first style

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