Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-15 Thread Ben Sturmfels
On 08/03/17 12:23, Russell Coker wrote: > This isn't really news. After Snowden's information this is something most > people expected. > > https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/assange-man-in-the-news/512243/ > > Also remember that Assange seems to be a Russian agent. Hi Russell

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-09 Thread Russell Coker
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/opinion/the-truth-about-the-wikileaks-cia-cache.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=http://m.facebook.com/ -- Sent from my Nexus 6P with K-9 Mail. ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softw

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-09 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
In plain english: "WikiLeaks will provide technology companies with exclusive access to CIA hacking tools it possesses, allowing them to patch software flaws, founder Julian Assange says." Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/wikileaks-offers-cia-hack-information-to-tech-companies/834199

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-09 Thread Jookia
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 06:41:00PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > I agree that reducing the attack surface is good, but I doubt that dealing > with BIOS bugs actually achieves that goal. To get to the BIOS an attacker > has to either compromise the kernel/acpid or gain physical access to the > s

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 02:27:00 AM Andri Effendi wrote: > "The Debian GNU/Linux project says that former Tor developer Jacob > Appelbaum is no longer welcome at its events, after charges of sexual > misconduct were levelled against him" > > The article you are looking at isn't factually accurate. > >

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:41:37 AM Jookia wrote: > I don't plan to make my system resistant to a full-scale CIA attack, but I > do like having a BIOS that isn't a complete and buggy operating system in > itself. I think reducing the attack surface is always a worthy goal. I agree that reducing the att

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-08 Thread Jookia
On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 11:42:25PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > If they gain physical access to your system they can mess with you in other > ways, like sniffing the hardware on your keyboard. > > I think that for everyone here, if the CIA becomes so interested in you that > they want to do an

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-08 Thread Andri Effendi
Hi Russell Coker, "The Debian GNU/Linux project says that former Tor developer Jacob Appelbaum is no longer welcome at its events, after charges of sexual misconduct were levelled against him" The article you are looking at isn't factually accurate. The Title of the Article says that there were

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 10:28:33 PM Jookia wrote: > Just popping in to the less political side of the thread, it's nice to see > that SELinux gets a few mentions. I still haven't put much effort in to > secure my desktop how I'd like it to be done but it might be a good time > to do some more messing ar

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-08 Thread Jookia
On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 05:12:18PM +1100, Glenn McIntosh wrote: > You'll be pleased to see that selinux gets a few mentions in the CIA > leaks :-), particularly in the Android context (eg that it prevents > normal installation of their 'RoidRage' malware, and how they get around > it). > > It is a

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 05:12:18 PM Glenn McIntosh wrote: > On 08/03/17 14:14, Russell Coker wrote: > > True. I think I've done my share of work in securing Linux systems both > > directly through working on SE Linux and indirectly through finding bugs > > in various daemons and applications (often due

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Glenn McIntosh
On 08/03/17 14:14, Russell Coker wrote: > True. I think I've done my share of work in securing Linux systems both > directly through working on SE Linux and indirectly through finding bugs in > various daemons and applications (often due to SE Linux policy revealing > inappropriate things). Yo

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 03:43:10 PM ja...@cleeland.org wrote: > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 03:05:00 PM russ...@coker.com.au wrote: > > Jason, your analysis is insightful and well written. But I disagree with > > this paragraph. The above article gives a clear example of the problems > > with a "release all in

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread jason
essage- From: Russell Coker [mailto:russ...@coker.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2017 3:05 PM To: free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au Cc: ja...@cleeland.org Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed On Wed, 8 Mar 2

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 02:39:58 PM ja...@cleeland.org wrote: > If the information is all that matters, wikileaks will release all > information it obtains as soon as practicable and will do all things > possible to ensure that they do not release information at times that just > happen to suit partisan

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
reedom.com.au] On Behalf Of Andri Effendi > Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2017 1:46 PM > To: free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au > Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault > 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed > > I think people who dismiss Assange

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread jason
leeland -Original Message- From: Free-software-melb [mailto:free-software-melb-boun...@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au] On Behalf Of Andri Effendi Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2017 1:46 PM To: free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au Subject: Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 01:46:00 PM Andri Effendi wrote: > I think people who dismiss Assange or Snowden as "Russian Agent(s)" are > bonkers and have been manipulated by the MSM. I have never suggested that Snowden is a Russian agent. He merely resides in Russia, there is no evidence of him favoring

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 01:12:16 PM Adrian Colomitchi wrote: > > Also remember that Assange seems to be a Russian agent. > > Oh, really? Yes, anyone who claims that Russia has an open government is on the Russian side. For all the flaws of the US government it doesn't openly kill journalists that r

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Andri Effendi
I think people who dismiss Assange or Snowden as "Russian Agent(s)" are bonkers and have been manipulated by the MSM. I can't believe that such critical information that should be released to the public as part of being a so called "democracy" is seen as making them foreign agents. Vulnerabilitie

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
> This isn't really news. From the two messages: "Security by obscurity in these areas" vs "Assange is ..." - which one would you consider relevant for you? The very page linked in the original poster: "The CIA made these systems unclassified. Why the CIA chose to make its cyberarsenal unclassif

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
> Also remember that Assange seems to be a Russian agent. Oh, really? So you say: * it doesn't matter we know how you can be spied on or that you can be "serendipitous" killed by a truck or that your "secure" apps that should guarantee your privacy are got around. And it still doesn't matter an or

Re: [free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Russell Coker
This isn't really news. After Snowden's information this is something most people expected. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/assange-man-in-the-news/512243/ Also remember that Assange seems to be a Russian agent. -- Sent from my Nexus 6P with K-9 Mail. __

[free-software-melb] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WIKILEAKS, Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

2017-03-07 Thread Andri Effendi
Hi Everyone, Urgent call to keyboard arms! Shocking new revelations of CIA hacking tools in software used by everyone, including us Free Software folk. Please share this information with everyone who will listen, we really need to bring the threat to our Privacy and the need for Free Software th