Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Oliver Fromme
Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de wrote: ovi freebsd li...@freebsdonline.com wrote: With Oracle now owning all the rights to what is probably the biggest free competitor, I think the open source world shouldn't put much stock or investment into MySQL. MySQL is open

Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread ovi freebsd
Freddie Cash wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:42 AM, ovi freebsd li...@freebsdonline.com wrote: I know this is not about FreeBSD but it is about open source and it matters, maybe many of you heard about last news: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/128246 - /Oracle

RE: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Person, Roderick
From what I know Oracle do not have a good history with open source (and not a bad one... yet)... they only took Linux from Red Hat and are making money of it... I don't think they will give something back to open source community but... we'll see... Doesn't Oracle own Postgres Db? I

RE: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Rick N
(Actually) and Histrorically, Sun had a lot to do with the BSD's (and vice-versa), Bill Joy's early work and contibution to the BSD/Unix which later he took to form a little company called Sun Microsytems in the late '70's. Times are sure a changin'. Personally, I can thank SunOS for

Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Oliver Fromme
Jayton Garnett jayton.garn...@gmail.com wrote: I just can not help but feel that buying Sun had something to do with MySQL's demise and possibly ceasing funding for any of it's development. No. Buying Sun has something to do with Oracle wanting to have their own real operating system. I

Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Oliver Fromme
Person, Roderick perso...@upmc.edu wrote: Doesn't Oracle own Postgres Db? No. They own Berkeley DB (they acquired Sleepycat Software about three years ago, who developped Berkeley DB since 1996). PostgreSQL, which also originates from Berkeley, is developed by a global group of volunteers,

Re: UTF as Filename Extension

2009-04-21 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Larry Baird: I have also put utf-8 bomb characters at the beginning of my text files. Take a look at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Working_with_Unicode You don't need BOM for UTF-8 files, UTF-8 is a byte-oriented encoding, that's one of its great interest... -- Ollivier ROBERT

Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote:   Maybe it's going to be the opposite, maybe Oracle will continue with the   development of MySQL and apply some Oracle 'features' to MySQL... By the way, I recommend to read the press release (if you haven't done

Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:42 AM, ovi freebsd li...@freebsdonline.com wrote: Freddie Cash wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:42 AM, ovi freebsd li...@freebsdonline.com wrote: I know this is not about FreeBSD but it is about open source and it matters, maybe many of you heard about last news:

BSD (was: Oracle buys Sun)

2009-04-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 21 April 2009 at 11:05:24 +, Rick N wrote: (Actually) and Histrorically, Sun had a lot to do with the BSD's (and vice-versa), Bill Joy's early work and contibution to the BSD/Unix which later he took to form a little company called Sun Microsytems in the late '70's. This is

Re: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-21 Thread Freddie Cash
Thinking about things a bit, this seems to be a good buy for Oracle. Most likely, IMO, would be an effort to bring MySQL up to the point where it can become Oracle Lite (with paid support, of course), to be used as a the gateway drug to Oracle Express (with more paid support), which is just a