Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-21 Thread Danial Thom
--- Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/20/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > User manuals and how-tos don't generally get > > copyright notices, because there is nothing > > creative about it. Someone could write > exactly > > the same thing (just about), and you'd hav

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Brett
On 6/20/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: User manuals and how-tos don't generally get copyright notices, because there is nothing creative about it. Someone could write exactly the same thing (just about), and you'd have little claim to it because its just a procedural description. Wh

RE: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread David Schwartz
> 2) Using terms like "malicious" without proof (and it appears the claim >was completely false based on follow-ups since the user group > in question >added an attribute once they were notified) reduces your credibility >immensely. If anything, if the HouFUG were anywhere as > litigu

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Jan Grant
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "David Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 4) Discussions of copyright seem appropriate for freebsd-standard, since any > > reputable organization that publishes material with computers today makes a > > good faith effort to ensure they do not v

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"David Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 4) Discussions of copyright seem appropriate for freebsd-standard, since any > reputable organization that publishes material with computers today makes a > good faith effort to ensure they do not violate any copyright. It is > therefore a de facto st

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Colman Reilly
Can we remove a few of the mailing lists from this please? Perhaps all of them? Thanks, Colman On 20 Jun 2006, at 12:59, Dennis Olvany wrote: Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Johnathan Michaels hit on the next point I would like to make and that is the

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread David Hoffman
On 6/19/06, Frank Laszlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What does this entire thread have to do with freebsd user groups? Just because the allege copyright infringement is against such a group, doesn't mean everyone else has to hear about it. Please remove it from future CC's. Thanks. Regards,

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread David Hoffman
On 6/19/06, John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 18 June 2006 19:49, David Hoffman wrote: > * *It appears the page at > http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious > breach of copyright. The article, which was > originally written and posted to the Internet

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread David Hoffman
Please note that they modified the page several times while I was involved in this discussion. That specific comment was about an old revision. However, the current version of the site still has a problem: while the HouFUG copyright notice could be in reference to the page and not the article,

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Brett
On 6/19/06, Christopher Weldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett wrote: > Obviously, you have never spent days trying out a relatively > undocumented procedure, finally getting it right, and then decided to > help others out by writing a howto documen

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Frank Laszlo
What does this entire thread have to do with freebsd user groups? Just because the allege copyright infringement is against such a group, doesn't mean everyone else has to hear about it. Please remove it from future CC's. Thanks. Regards, Frank __

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Christopher Weldon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett wrote: > Obviously, you have never spent days trying out a relatively > undocumented procedure, finally getting it right, and then decided to > help others out by writing a howto document. I am perfectly happy > that Ingrid decided to host this

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Brett
On 6/19/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Its interesting that the same types of people who whine incessently about things like open source will get all worked up about a "copyright" on some stupid how-to "article". You know what they say; if its not worth money, you might as well get

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday 18 June 2006 19:49, David Hoffman wrote: > * *It appears the page at > http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious > breach of copyright. The article, which was > originally written and posted to the Internet by the owner of the account > [EMAIL PROTECTED], is fal

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Danial Thom
--- David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update: their website now attributes copyright > to both HouFUG AND Brett. > This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be > the sole owner of the work. > I'm not sure why this community feels it can > disregard rights to > intellectual property,

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"David Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It'll certainly be less confusing that what HouFUG is publishing. They've > now noted on their site that it was written by you. However, they STILL > claim they own the copyright. No, they claim a copyright for their site, which is perfectly valid -

RE: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread mail.matt.mcdonald
reebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post -- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 18, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post To: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While your moc

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Dennis Olvany
David Hoffman wrote: Update: their website now attributes copyright to both HouFUG AND Brett. This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be the sole owner of the work. I'm not sure why this community feels it can disregard rights to intellectual property, especially when it produces so much on

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
Update: their website now attributes copyright to both HouFUG AND Brett. This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be the sole owner of the work. I'm not sure why this community feels it can disregard rights to intellectual property, especially when it produces so much on its OWN to be proud o

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
It'll certainly be less confusing that what HouFUG is publishing. They've now noted on their site that it was written by you. However, they STILL claim they own the copyright. Have you waived any of your exclusive rights to the work? On 6/18/06, Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello I hope

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Brett
Hello I hope the DMCA copyright notice, found at http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.html , clears up any confusion. thank you! On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a problem with this article. He did NOT bo

RE: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Ingrid Kast Fuller
I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a problem with this article. He did NOT bother to tell me he was the owner of it. All I knew is someone named Brett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was letting me know there was a problem. I immediately went to arbornet.org to see where

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Brett
I hope we can reach an agreement on this as soon as possible. J'espère qu'on puisse trouver un accord dans les plus brefs délais. On 6/18/06, David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It appears the page at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm constitutes a serious breach of copyright.