Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-20 Thread jonathan michaels
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: it is easy to say i didn't know, but its harder to justify treating people like jcw did, as per example, i'm not picling on ou jason, your post and responce is teh best example of this process that i

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread jonathan michaels
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:42:49AM -0500, Astrodog wrote: Dear god, this is sad. To all of you attacking the rules of capitalization, spelling and grammar... These rules exist to aid in allowing others to understand what you're writing, much as style(9) exists to help make code more

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Astrodog wrote: Just as I really enjoy drinking heavily then driving like Mario Andretti, Officer Smith is much more understandable, and can be read faster than, ireallyenjoydrinkingheavilythendrivinglikemarioandrettiofficersmith i really enjoy drinking heavily then

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, jonathan michaels wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:42:49AM -0500, Astrodog wrote: int func() { if (blah == 2) { otherfunc(blah2); return 0; } else { return 1; } } is MUCH easier to understand than: int func()

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread jonathan michaels
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:14:29AM -0700, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Astrodog wrote: Just as I really enjoy drinking heavily then driving like Mario Andretti, Officer Smith is much more understandable, and can be read faster than,

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-17 Thread Jason C. Wells
jonathan michaels wrote: it is easy to say i didn't know, but its harder to justify treating people like jcw did, as per example, i'm not picling on ou jason, your post and responce is teh best example of this process that i have seen since a few nolonger present in public freebsd community

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread jonathan michaels
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. I'm sorry. I found it far too difficult to read your content. The

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters. I'm sorry. I found it far too difficult to read your content. The poor presentation required

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some upper case letters.

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread jonathan michaels
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:28:54AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:43:21PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: spellberg_robert wrote: when your content is sound, the presentation will take care of itself. /me hands Rob a paragraph and some

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-15 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-03-15 13:23, KAYVEN RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: jonathan michaels wrote: we all use the 'lingua franca' at different levels of usability for all and different levels of competance for all and various differnt levels of the 'human'

an observation on ranting [was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-14 Thread spellberg_robert
greetings, all --- sorry to take two months to get to this. i am absolutely swamped by real work and i needed to clear out my in_box. now, you know why i do not subscribe to -current. i was looking forward to reading this thread, as i have some interest in the topic. since it was moved to

Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ]

2008-03-14 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 14/03/2008, spellberg_robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't care if freebsd doesn't have a flash plug_in. The worst bits of the web are opt out, and freebsd opts out just fine for my tastes. hope this helps. rob It's better than reading Dan Brown. -- --

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-11 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what wee need is a rule, that if you demand folks should move the thread to such-and-such a list, that YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT. I will admit, Julian, you came closest, you at least

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what wee need is a rule, that if you demand folks should move the thread to such-and-such a list, that YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT. I will admit, Julian, you came closest, you at least posted to -chat, would have been pretty good, if only you'd removed -current

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-10 Thread Julian Stacey
Please Discuss Licensing On chat@, Not current@ ! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current This is the mailing list for users of freebsd-current. It includes warnings about new features coming out in -current that will affect the users, and instructions on steps that

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-10 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 12:17 PM, Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please Discuss Licensing On chat@, Not current@ ! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current This is the mailing list for users of freebsd-current. It includes warnings about new

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-10 Thread Peter Ross
Hi all, I hate to pollute the list with the policy/licence flood. So I am happy to send it to -chat too and continue there if you do not mind. I do not think FreeBSD has a license issue. It has a visibility issue, maybe. By change I speak German so I could read the original BSDforen.de

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-10 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Julian H. Stacey wrote: Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 12:17 PM, Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please Discuss Licensing On chat@, Not current@ ! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current This is the mailing list

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-10 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 08:42:16PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: (about the hijacked current@ thread) For the first time in years I was tempted to use a kill file to suppress a poster entirely, and semi automatic marking of threads as read. For now, I'm glad I didn't as, much like sand irritates

Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing

2008-01-10 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Robey wrote: Julian H. Stacey wrote: Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 12:17 PM, Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please Discuss Licensing On chat@, Not current@ ! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current This