Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 04:08:23PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: That's chicken/egg - IPv6 never will be widely used if everyone thinks that way. The sense is to break this dependency loop by ecouraging everyone to use it and not to make it easier to completely disable the support. As I said:

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Lambert
Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: That's chicken/egg - IPv6 never will be widely used if everyone thinks that way. The problem, as I see it, is that it doesn't come enabled by default on Windows systems. Until it does, it's never

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:01:30AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: 1) Machines do not ship with it enabled by default; a Windows user has about as much probability of doing the necessary work to enable it as they do of making something other than

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Terry Lambert wrote: 1) Machines do not ship with it enabled by default; a Windows user has about as much probability of doing the necessary work to enable it as they do of making something other than Internet Explorer their default browser. 2) You have

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-11 Thread David Malone
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:40:06AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: 6)The last time I tried the experimental version, it did not correctly interoperate with AIX or FreeBSD, but worked fine Windows-to-Windows, so they've done *something* to it to embrace and extend it. I find

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:16 PM -0700 2003/08/05, Kevin Oberman wrote: I may have missed part of this tread as I am on travel. Why is simply not enabling ipv6 adequate? Note: I DO run IPv6 routinely when at work, so I normally do have it enabled. I'd like to get an understanding of what the issue might be. The

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-08 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Terry Lambert wrote: He apparently doesn't understand that v6/v4 NATs and proxy servers would let him deploy today ...assuming that the Windows stack was there. What do you mean the Windows stack was there? XP supports IPv6, as long as you install it, so I assume there's something missing *in*

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: He apparently doesn't understand that v6/v4 NATs and proxy servers would let him deploy today ...assuming that the Windows stack was there. What do you mean the Windows stack was there? XP supports IPv6, as long as you install it, so I assume

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-08 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Bruce Cran wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:01:30AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: 1) Machines do not ship with it enabled by default; a Windows user has about as much probability of doing the necessary work to enable it as they do of making

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-06 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Bernd Walter wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:32:47PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: What's the sense of enabling and using IPv6, if your infrastucture in the company doesn't support it (because of the overhead with routing (hardware vs.

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-05 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:52:50 +0200 From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 9:37 AM -0700 2003/08/05, David O'Brien wrote: Machanism, not policy. I would also like to run with NO_INET6. IPv6 support has done nothing for me other than cause me problems. I

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:37 AM -0700 2003/08/05, David O'Brien wrote: Machanism, not policy. I would also like to run with NO_INET6. IPv6 support has done nothing for me other than cause me problems. I still strongly disagree with our ordering of localhost in /etc/hosts. My system worked worlds better when I

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-04 Thread Harti Brandt
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernd Walter wrote: BWOn Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: BW Hi David, BW BW I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are BW build with INET6. BW In real life, I do not know anyone who owns some IPv6 addresses BW but many guys who

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-04 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:32:47PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernd Walter wrote: BWOn Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: BW Hi David, BW BW I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are BW build with INET6. BW In real life, I

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-04 Thread Terry Lambert
Bernd Walter wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:32:47PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: What's the sense of enabling and using IPv6, if your infrastucture in the company doesn't support it (because of the overhead with routing (hardware vs. software routing)) and you don't have an IPv6 connection

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-04 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: That's chicken/egg - IPv6 never will be widely used if everyone thinks that way. The problem, as I see it, is that it doesn't come enabled by default on Windows systems. Until it does, it's never going to get any traction.

INET6 in world

2003-08-03 Thread Jens Rehsack
Hi David, I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are build with INET6. In real life, I do not know anyone who owns some IPv6 addresses but many guys who disabled INET6 on their machines in kernel. Now the daemons prints out a (IMHO useless) warning, that they cannot bind to

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-03 Thread Bernd Walter
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: Hi David, I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are build with INET6. In real life, I do not know anyone who owns some IPv6 addresses but many guys who disabled INET6 on their machines in kernel. You don't

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-03 Thread Andy Farkas
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernd Walter wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: Hi David, I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are build with INET6. In real life, I do not know anyone who owns some IPv6 addresses but many guys who disabled

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-03 Thread Bernd Walter
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 07:20:02AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernd Walter wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: Hi David, I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are build with INET6. In real life, I do not

Re: INET6 in world

2003-08-03 Thread Jens Rehsack
On 03.08.2003 23:39, Bernd Walter wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 07:20:02AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernd Walter wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:07:15PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: Hi David, I've seen that several world daemons (rpcbind, telnetd, ...) are build