Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Julian Elischer wrote: > > ok here are some of the problems.. > > Matt's changes allow dd to copy data at 2.5 times the rate it did before. > I consider dd to be an application. The problem is due to resource > handling in the kernel and results in large amounts of Idle CPU time. > > Another pr

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Wes Peters
Julian Elischer wrote: > > ok here are some of the problems.. > > Matt's changes allow dd to copy data at 2.5 times the rate it did before. > I consider dd to be an application. The problem is due to resource > handling in the kernel and results in large amounts of Idle CPU time. > > Another pri

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
% % %On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Russell L. Carter wrote: % %> %> %Basically there are some applications and benchmarks for which FreeBSD %> %> uh, "benchmarks" only, until evidence is produced otherwise. [...] %ok here are some of the problems.. % %Matt's changes allow dd to copy data at 2.5 times t

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Russell L. Carter
% % %On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Russell L. Carter wrote: % %> %> %Basically there are some applications and benchmarks for which FreeBSD %> %> uh, "benchmarks" only, until evidence is produced otherwise. [...] %ok here are some of the problems.. % %Matt's changes allow dd to copy data at 2.5 times th

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > %Basically there are some applications and benchmarks for which FreeBSD > > uh, "benchmarks" only, until evidence is produced otherwise. > > Tuning for benchmarks has been around a long long time. > > People get worked up about this because

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > %Basically there are some applications and benchmarks for which FreeBSD > > uh, "benchmarks" only, until evidence is produced otherwise. > > Tuning for benchmarks has been around a long long time. > > People get worked up about this because t

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
%Basically there are some applications and benchmarks for which FreeBSD uh, "benchmarks" only, until evidence is produced otherwise. Tuning for benchmarks has been around a long long time. People get worked up about this because the people who give out the money to buy the systems use benchmar

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Russell L. Carter
%Basically there are some applications and benchmarks for which FreeBSD uh, "benchmarks" only, until evidence is produced otherwise. Tuning for benchmarks has been around a long long time. People get worked up about this because the people who give out the money to buy the systems use benchmark

Re: Login validation by home directory location (PAM?)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, John W. DeBoskey wrote: >There must be a better way of doing this, but I don't see > how. I've looked at PAM, but I don't understand how I could make > this type of facility work except maybe in the pam_authenticate() > routine. However, this seems complicated compared to

Re: Login validation by home directory location (PAM?)

1999-06-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, John W. DeBoskey wrote: >There must be a better way of doing this, but I don't see > how. I've looked at PAM, but I don't understand how I could make > this type of facility work except maybe in the pam_authenticate() > routine. However, this seems complicated compared to

Login validation by home directory location (PAM?)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Hi, I have an administration problem that I'm trying to solve and I'm looking for comments and ideas. I have about 6000 users in the passwd file. We have a number of compute servers available to these users which (the boss) wants to have allocated according to where the users home director

Login validation by home directory location (PAM?)

1999-06-23 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, I have an administration problem that I'm trying to solve and I'm looking for comments and ideas. I have about 6000 users in the passwd file. We have a number of compute servers available to these users which (the boss) wants to have allocated according to where the users home directory

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isasio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > I saw it flash by too quick to read, the first time, but when I tried to > > People with no lag > > The error is: > > Usage: .Rv -std sections 2 and 3 only That error is funny! It's true,

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 and...@ugh.net.au wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > I saw it flash by too quick to read, the first time, but when I tried to > > People with no lag > > The error is: > > Usage: .Rv -std sections 2 and 3 only That error is funny! It's true, .

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isasio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > I saw it flash by too quick to read, the first time, but when I tried to People with no lag The error is: Usage: .Rv -std sections 2 and 3 only > Probably because of caching, I can't see any error just running man Yep...rm /usr/share/man/cat7/m

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Karl Denninger wrote: > I've found FreeBSD to outperform NT-anything in any task you throw at the > machine from web service to Samba for file and print service for PCs > running Windows. Granted. Perhaps we're seeing an artifact of NT's developers focussing on optimizing their system for g

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread andrew
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > I saw it flash by too quick to read, the first time, but when I tried to People with no lag The error is: Usage: .Rv -std sections 2 and 3 only > Probably because of caching, I can't see any error just running man Yep...rm /usr/share/man/cat7/md

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Mark Newton
Karl Denninger wrote: > I've found FreeBSD to outperform NT-anything in any task you throw at the > machine from web service to Samba for file and print service for PCs > running Windows. Granted. Perhaps we're seeing an artifact of NT's developers focussing on optimizing their system for go

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isasio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > There's a man page for it :-) > > > > mdoc.samples(7). Now tell me that that's not intuitive. > > Is it just me or does everyone get a (non-fatal) error as mdoc.samples(7) > is formatted? The per

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 and...@ugh.net.au wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > There's a man page for it :-) > > > > mdoc.samples(7). Now tell me that that's not intuitive. > > Is it just me or does everyone get a (non-fatal) error as mdoc.samples(7) > is formatted? The perf

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Karl Denninger wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 11:24:03PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > > > At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > >> [

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Karl Denninger wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 11:24:03PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > > > At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > >> [s

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isasio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > There's a man page for it :-) > > mdoc.samples(7). Now tell me that that's not intuitive. Is it just me or does everyone get a (non-fatal) error as mdoc.samples(7) is formatted? The perfect man page for an error as well :-) Andrew To Unsubscribe:

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread andrew
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > There's a man page for it :-) > > mdoc.samples(7). Now tell me that that's not intuitive. Is it just me or does everyone get a (non-fatal) error as mdoc.samples(7) is formatted? The perfect man page for an error as well :-) Andrew To Unsubscribe: s

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 11:24:03PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: > > >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > >> [someone said] > > >>| [someone said] > > >>|> Ok, so let's

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Karl Denninger
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 11:24:03PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: > > >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > >> [someone said] > > >>| [someone said] > > >>|> Ok, so let's

Re: ispell(1) is for WIMPs (was Re: vi(1) is for whimps)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
This belongs in freebsd-chat, if anywhere. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsu

Re: ispell(1) is for WIMPs (was Re: vi(1) is for whimps)

1999-06-23 Thread Brian F. Feldman
This belongs in freebsd-chat, if anywhere. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsub

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: > >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > >> [someone said] > >>| [someone said] > >>|> Ok, so let's follow Microsoft's industry-leading documentation > >>|> standards. > >>| >

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: > >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > >> [someone said] > >>| [someone said] > >>|> Ok, so let's follow Microsoft's industry-leading documentation > >>|> standards. > >>| >

ispell(1) is for WIMPs (was Re: vi(1) is for whimps)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On 22 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote: > > > vi(1) is for whimps > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/1986/viforwhimps.html > > As long as you're critiquing people for what you called (paraphrased) "a > smiley that made you sound insincere", I guess I'll point ou

ispell(1) is for WIMPs (was Re: vi(1) is for whimps)

1999-06-23 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On 22 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote: > > > vi(1) is for whimps > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/1986/viforwhimps.html > > As long as you're critiquing people for what you called (paraphrased) "a > smiley that made you sound insincere", I guess I'll point out

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >> [someone said] >>| [someone said] >>|> Ok, so let's follow Microsoft's industry-leading documentation >>|> standards. >>| >>| He said "commercial", not "toy". >> >> Given that I've jus

Re: Microsoft performance (was: ...)

1999-06-23 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:39 PM +0930 6/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >> [someone said] >>| [someone said] >>|> Ok, so let's follow Microsoft's industry-leading documentation >>|> standards. >>| >>| He said "commercial", not "toy". >> >> Given that I've just

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> On Wednesday, 23 June 1999 at 9:12:12 +0300, Taavi Talvik wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > If you write man pages first time, it is quite close to clack magic. > > It would be really nice if someone comfortant with troff/nroff etc. > > would make Handbook page d

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Mike Pritchard
> On Wednesday, 23 June 1999 at 9:12:12 +0300, Taavi Talvik wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > If you write man pages first time, it is quite close to clack magic. > > It would be really nice if someone comfortant with troff/nroff etc. > > would make Handbook page de

Re: Microsoft performance (was: All this and documentation too?(was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c))

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: [deleted cvs-all from the list of cc's, how'd it get there? > On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 04:39:28PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > But Mark illustrates my point perfectly; developers don't write > > > documentation. That's what camp followers are for. So fa

Re: Microsoft performance (was: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c))

1999-06-23 Thread Chuck Robey
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: [deleted cvs-all from the list of cc's, how'd it get there? > On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 04:39:28PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > But Mark illustrates my point perfectly; developers don't write > > > documentation. That's what camp followers are for. So far

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Dan Seguin wrote: > > > Hi All. > > I'm trying to create a system call that will burst a (pseudo) quick tcp > message out to a remote host every time that it is called. I've got the > system call all worked out as a kld, it loads and restores without a > hitch. Good, you'

Re: Microsoft performance (was: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c))

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 04:39:28PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > But Mark illustrates my point perfectly; developers don't write > > documentation. That's what camp followers are for. So far, we have > > the ones that whine about the loot and throw mud at us when we march > > too slowly, but not

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-06-23 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Dan Seguin wrote: > > > Hi All. > > I'm trying to create a system call that will burst a (pseudo) quick tcp > message out to a remote host every time that it is called. I've got the > system call all worked out as a kld, it loads and restores without a > hitch. Good, you'r

Re: Microsoft performance (was: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c))

1999-06-23 Thread Nik Clayton
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 04:39:28PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > But Mark illustrates my point perfectly; developers don't write > > documentation. That's what camp followers are for. So far, we have > > the ones that whine about the loot and throw mud at us when we march > > too slowly, but not e

Connect and so on..

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Hi All. I'm trying to create a system call that will burst a (pseudo) quick tcp message out to a remote host every time that it is called. I've got the system call all worked out as a kld, it loads and restores without a hitch. I use the calling proc's table as it is passed to the system call,

Connect and so on..

1999-06-23 Thread Dan Seguin
Hi All. I'm trying to create a system call that will burst a (pseudo) quick tcp message out to a remote host every time that it is called. I've got the system call all worked out as a kld, it loads and restores without a hitch. I use the calling proc's table as it is passed to the system call,

Re: Difference between msync() and fsync()

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
You should first check out how msync/fsync work on something like solaris, since every time I've checked for the last five years or so no version of bsd has really got it working right (although netbsd + UVM may finally have it). To observe msync/fsync in action use tcpdump to watch a host as it

Re: Difference between msync() and fsync()

1999-06-23 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
You should first check out how msync/fsync work on something like solaris, since every time I've checked for the last five years or so no version of bsd has really got it working right (although netbsd + UVM may finally have it). To observe msync/fsync in action use tcpdump to watch a host as it d

Difference between msync() and fsync()

1999-06-23 Thread Zhihui Zhang
After we mmap a file, we can write back the dirty pages of the file either by calling msync() or fsync(). After reading the source code, it seems to me that they actually does the same thing. msync() will eventually call VOP_FSYNC() as fsync() does. Since msync() has already call the routine vm_

Difference between msync() and fsync()

1999-06-23 Thread Zhihui Zhang
After we mmap a file, we can write back the dirty pages of the file either by calling msync() or fsync(). After reading the source code, it seems to me that they actually does the same thing. msync() will eventually call VOP_FSYNC() as fsync() does. Since msync() has already call the routine vm_o

Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Followup to my original post, and to the replies. I am now using kermit -- which works great (better than having to reconnect with cu all the time). I was able to get rid of the garbage (anytime output scrolled past the end of the screen[24 lines]), by using a different terminal program. I was

Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-23 Thread Bill G
Followup to my original post, and to the replies. I am now using kermit -- which works great (better than having to reconnect with cu all the time). I was able to get rid of the garbage (anytime output scrolled past the end of the screen[24 lines]), by using a different terminal program. I was

NIS Question

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Here's my situation: 1. I would like to set up NIS on my network. 2. I have one FreeBSD system(2.2.6) 3. I have many other flavors of Unix on this network 4. I would like the FreeBSD system to export it's passwd and group files to the other machines How do I achieve this? Do I just run ypse

NIS Question

1999-06-23 Thread Nick LoPresti
Here's my situation: 1. I would like to set up NIS on my network. 2. I have one FreeBSD system(2.2.6) 3. I have many other flavors of Unix on this network 4. I would like the FreeBSD system to export it's passwd and group files to the other machines How do I achieve this? Do I just run ypser

.so versions

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
hi, there! sorry if this question is not for -hackers I have some program that loads some .so via dlopen (ELF) and the looks up some symbols in that .so (functions) and calls that functions (with some known ABI). There are two problems with this: - how to check ABI version for program and .so (

.so versions

1999-06-23 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! sorry if this question is not for -hackers I have some program that loads some .so via dlopen (ELF) and the looks up some symbols in that .so (functions) and calls that functions (with some known ABI). There are two problems with this: - how to check ABI version for program and .so (t

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> Well I have access to a HP ScanJet at work, and USB modems are real cheap :) FreeBSD Inc. and 3Com give them away for free lately... > > IMHO its kinda pointless having USB mice/kbd since PS/2 does that pretty well, > but stuff like scanners and modems which eat serial/parallel ports ar

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Nick Hibma
> Well I have access to a HP ScanJet at work, and USB modems are real cheap :) FreeBSD Inc. and 3Com give them away for free lately... > > IMHO its kinda pointless having USB mice/kbd since PS/2 does that pretty > well, > but stuff like scanners and modems which eat serial/parallel ports

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread David Wolfskill
>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:12:12 +0300 (EEST) >From: Taavi Talvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >If you write man pages first time, it is quite close to clack magic. It may seem that way (ref. Arthur C. Clark), but I respectfully disagree. >It would be really nice if someone comfortant with troff/nroff e

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread David Wolfskill
>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:12:12 +0300 (EEST) >From: Taavi Talvik >If you write man pages first time, it is quite close to clack magic. It may seem that way (ref. Arthur C. Clark), but I respectfully disagree. >It would be really nice if someone comfortant with troff/nroff etc. >would make Hand

Re: vi(1) is for whimps

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On 22 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote: > vi(1) is for whimps > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/1986/viforwhimps.html As long as you're critiquing people for what you called (paraphrased) "a smiley that made you sound insincere", I guess I'll point out that the word is "wimps". - bill f

Re: vi(1) is for whimps

1999-06-23 Thread Bill Fumerola
On 22 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote: > vi(1) is for whimps > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/1986/viforwhimps.html As long as you're critiquing people for what you called (paraphrased) "a smiley that made you sound insincere", I guess I'll point out that the word is "wimps". - bill fu

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
[Cc: line trimmed dramatically] On Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 11:52:25PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Given that I've just spent a very unhappy couple of weeks demonstrating > that this "toy" you're referring to outperforms us by a factor of > anything from 3 to 10 on a range of basic benchmarks, an

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
[Cc: line trimmed dramatically] On Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 11:52:25PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Given that I've just spent a very unhappy couple of weeks demonstrating > that this "toy" you're referring to outperforms us by a factor of > anything from 3 to 10 on a range of basic benchmarks, and

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On 23-Jun-99 Nick Hibma wrote: > What kind of devices do you see showing up? > Would be a great help to get some idea of what is needed for the various > devices. For mice the support is pretty much cooked, but for example > keyboards sometimes have an extra mouse port. Well I have access to

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor
On 23-Jun-99 Nick Hibma wrote: > What kind of devices do you see showing up? > Would be a great help to get some idea of what is needed for the various > devices. For mice the support is pretty much cooked, but for example > keyboards sometimes have an extra mouse port. Well I have access to

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> What kind of devices do you see showing up? i have an epson photo750 printer, and colleagues around seem to have a few USB cameras. Haven't seen yet any USB scanner in the office but all new one seem to be USB so as soon as one comes in i am sure it will be USB cheers luigi

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> What kind of devices do you see showing up? i have an epson photo750 printer, and colleagues around seem to have a few USB cameras. Haven't seen yet any USB scanner in the office but all new one seem to be USB so as soon as one comes in i am sure it will be USB cheers luigi -

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
What kind of devices do you see showing up? Would be a great help to get some idea of what is needed for the various devices. For mice the support is pretty much cooked, but for example keyboards sometimes have an extra mouse port. Interesting would be things like camera's (still as well as vid

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Nick Hibma
What kind of devices do you see showing up? Would be a great help to get some idea of what is needed for the various devices. For mice the support is pretty much cooked, but for example keyboards sometimes have an extra mouse port. Interesting would be things like camera's (still as well as vide

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> Where is this docu available? it is part of the painful road. all i remember is i had to browse through the HP webpages looking for "SCL" or "Scanner Command Language" or so after starting with generic search for programming info on the ScanJet scanners. the search was non trivial. ch

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> No one I know off. And I don't know of a scanner that we could easily > support. It might be that there are scanners that work through the Mass > Storage class specification (converted SCSI scanners). > > If you have a scanner run the usb_dump utility available from > > http://www.etla.n

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> Where is this docu available? it is part of the painful road. all i remember is i had to browse through the HP webpages looking for "SCL" or "Scanner Command Language" or so after starting with generic search for programming info on the ScanJet scanners. the search was non trivial. che

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> No one I know off. And I don't know of a scanner that we could easily > support. It might be that there are scanners that work through the Mass > Storage class specification (converted SCSI scanners). > > If you have a scanner run the usb_dump utility available from > > http://www.etla.ne

Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Hi, At 19:37 22/06/99 -0500, Chris Csanady wrote: >"Bill G." wrote: >> >> I got a serial console working on COM2, to which I have connected >> another FreeBSD box. I connect with 'cu' fine, but I'm running into >> a couple of problems which I haven't been able to find and answer >> for. >> >>

Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-23 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 19:37 22/06/99 -0500, Chris Csanady wrote: >"Bill G." wrote: >> >> I got a serial console working on COM2, to which I have connected >> another FreeBSD box. I connect with 'cu' fine, but I'm running into >> a couple of problems which I haven't been able to find and answer >> for. >> >> o

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> > > And as to the author: Writing docu while you are implementing something > > > might work in a commercial environment where you want to be able to > > > market something before it's sell-by date, but for hobbiests who > > > basically spend the odd evening doing something, it is too much h

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Greg Black
> > > And as to the author: Writing docu while you are implementing something > > > might work in a commercial environment where you want to be able to > > > market something before it's sell-by date, but for hobbiests who > > > basically spend the odd evening doing something, it is too much ha

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> I have a HP ScanJet 5200C and would like to write a driver for it. > Can please someone give me pointers to USB documents? I'm writing > device drivers and protocol engines for ISDN and H.323 but USB is > a new area for me. USB home page: http://www.usb.org/ (devel

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Nick Hibma
> I have a HP ScanJet 5200C and would like to write a driver for it. > Can please someone give me pointers to USB documents? I'm writing > device drivers and protocol engines for ISDN and H.323 but USB is > a new area for me. USB home page: http://www.usb.org/ (develo

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> Does anybody have a USB scanner running under FreeBSD, or know how to > get one running? I'm prepared to do some work, but I'd like to know I > had some chance of success. I have a HP ScanJet 5200C and would like to write a driver for it. Can please someone give me pointers to USB documents?

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Bodo Rueskamp
> Does anybody have a USB scanner running under FreeBSD, or know how to > get one running? I'm prepared to do some work, but I'd like to know I > had some chance of success. I have a HP ScanJet 5200C and would like to write a driver for it. Can please someone give me pointers to USB documents? I

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Where is this docu available? > this is a painful road in my experience. I suggest that you look at the > SANE web page and see if there are pointers to documentation. > > HP has some documentation of the language (SCL ?) used by its SCSI > scanners but i don't know to what degree it appli

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Nick Hibma
Where is this docu available? > this is a painful road in my experience. I suggest that you look at the > SANE web page and see if there are pointers to documentation. > > HP has some documentation of the language (SCL ?) used by its SCSI > scanners but i don't know to what degree it applie

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> No, I don't have one yet. I was thinking of buying a scanner, and it > seemed to be a logical thing to buy a USB scanner and write a driver > for FreeBSD. > > I suppose I could contact all the scanner manufacturers and ask for > programming docco. Does anybody have any leads? Some guy

Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Nick Hibma
> No, I don't have one yet. I was thinking of buying a scanner, and it > seemed to be a logical thing to buy a USB scanner and write a driver > for FreeBSD. > > I suppose I could contact all the scanner manufacturers and ask for > programming docco. Does anybody have any leads? Some guy f

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> No, I don't have one yet. I was thinking of buying a scanner, and it > seemed to be a logical thing to buy a USB scanner and write a driver > for FreeBSD. > > I suppose I could contact all the scanner manufacturers and ask for > programming docco. Does anybody have any leads? this is a painf

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Luigi Rizzo
> No, I don't have one yet. I was thinking of buying a scanner, and it > seemed to be a logical thing to buy a USB scanner and write a driver > for FreeBSD. > > I suppose I could contact all the scanner manufacturers and ask for > programming docco. Does anybody have any leads? this is a painfu

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Wednesday, 23 June 1999 at 11:09:50 +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Does anybody have a USB scanner running under FreeBSD, or know how to >> get one running? I'm prepared to do some work, but I'd like to know I >> had some chance of success. > > No one I

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 23 June 1999 at 11:09:50 +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Does anybody have a USB scanner running under FreeBSD, or know how to >> get one running? I'm prepared to do some work, but I'd like to know I >> had some chance of success. > > No one I k

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
No one I know off. And I don't know of a scanner that we could easily support. It might be that there are scanners that work through the Mass Storage class specification (converted SCSI scanners). If you have a scanner run the usb_dump utility available from http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma

Re: USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Nick Hibma
No one I know off. And I don't know of a scanner that we could easily support. It might be that there are scanners that work through the Mass Storage class specification (converted SCSI scanners). If you have a scanner run the usb_dump utility available from http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/

USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
Does anybody have a USB scanner running under FreeBSD, or know how to get one running? I'm prepared to do some work, but I'd like to know I had some chance of success. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key To Unsubscri

USB scanners?

1999-06-23 Thread Greg Lehey
Does anybody have a USB scanner running under FreeBSD, or know how to get one running? I'm prepared to do some work, but I'd like to know I had some chance of success. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger g...@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe:

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:18:34 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > But if I want to log *all* connections to service foo, but not bar, I > could not use tcpd for foo and and bar by itself and achieve that, so > you are removing some configurability. If very few people use this > extra configurability a

Re: Inetd and wrapping.

1999-06-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:18:34 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > But if I want to log *all* connections to service foo, but not bar, I > could not use tcpd for foo and and bar by itself and achieve that, so > you are removing some configurability. If very few people use this > extra configurability an

Re: CDROM drive doesn't probe if no CD present [Was:cannot mount cd indicates bad ide cd drive - replace?]

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
It seems Doug White wrote: > I'm lofting this up on -hackers to get the attention of the ATAPI CD > driver programmer -- Soren, you still around? Take a look at this. I'm here alright :) Sounds like the drive has a firmwarebug, If you are running -current try the ata driver instead, and let me k

Re: CDROM drive doesn't probe if no CD present [Was:cannot mount cd indicates bad ide cd drive - replace?]

1999-06-23 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Doug White wrote: > I'm lofting this up on -hackers to get the attention of the ATAPI CD > driver programmer -- Soren, you still around? Take a look at this. I'm here alright :) Sounds like the drive has a firmwarebug, If you are running -current try the ata driver instead, and let me kn

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous
> >From the keyboard of Warner Losh: > > > ls /usr/share/man/man9 | egrep > > > > bus_generic_attach.9.gz > > bus_generic_detach.9.gz > [...] > > I know. I just don't get an idea of the concept. Or am i missing something > here (something like a meta-manpage or a general description containing

Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Mike Smith
> >From the keyboard of Warner Losh: > > > ls /usr/share/man/man9 | egrep > > > > bus_generic_attach.9.gz > > bus_generic_detach.9.gz > [...] > > I know. I just don't get an idea of the concept. Or am i missing something > here (something like a meta-manpage or a general description containing

Re: [DISKLABEL FRAGGED] Clues requested... ;)

1999-06-23 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 12:24:07AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Josef Karthauser writes: > : The data on the disk isn't crucial, I can rebuild the system if necessary, but > : it seems that maybe I can spend less time writing a recovery tool than it would > : take to

Re: [DISKLABEL FRAGGED] Clues requested... ;)

1999-06-23 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 12:24:07AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <19990621083803.m95...@pavilion.net> Josef Karthauser writes: > : The data on the disk isn't crucial, I can rebuild the system if necessary, > but > : it seems that maybe I can spend less time writing a recovery tool than it

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