Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread John Capo
I started noticing some TCP weirdness when I moved my bandwidth stats site from my office to my colo facility last week. The colo is five miles away by road and 1200 miles away by network. Netscape would stop for seconds at a time while loading the graph images but there was no consistency. Wor

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > >The Intel driver will be the preferred driver for these cards. > > > > > > That still is under discussion. > > > > More to the point, let the respective drivers stand on their own merits. > > There is no need to "decide" for one or the other. > > This is, unfortuna

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2001-11-28 Thread Nyteckjobs
>As I mentioned above, we CAN license the driver code and the DDK for >development. This means that you could produce FreeBSD drivers which we >could then distribute in a binary form under a free end-user license. > >Frankly this is the only way I can see that FreeBSD drivers for the 5xx >series

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Mike Smith
> > > >The Intel driver will be the preferred driver for these cards. > > > > That still is under discussion. > > More to the point, let the respective drivers stand on their own merits. > There is no need to "decide" for one or the other. This is, unfortunately, not entirely true. One of the

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Matthew Jacob
A belated welcome to being a FreeBSD committer! We look forward eagerly to all contributions you and Intel's experience with networking can bring to us all! -matt On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Prafulla Deuskar wrote: > All, > > Intel Corporation has released a gigabit driver for > PRO/1000 series of

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 06:05:01PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > you write: > > >> What happend at Intel? Their driver is even released under the > > >> BSD license! (and the Linux one under the GPL) > > > > > >Many Intel software product

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Peter Wemm
Jonathan Lemon wrote: > In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] > you write: > >> What happend at Intel? Their driver is even released under the > >> BSD license! (and the Linux one under the GPL) > > > >Many Intel software products are released under a BSD-like license. > > > >Consider the ACPI CA codeb

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >> What happend at Intel? Their driver is even released under the >> BSD license! (and the Linux one under the GPL) > >Many Intel software products are released under a BSD-like license. > >Consider the ACPI CA codebase we use. > >> > The driver will be co

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Mike Smith
> What happend at Intel? Their driver is even released under the > BSD license! (and the Linux one under the GPL) Many Intel software products are released under a BSD-like license. Consider the ACPI CA codebase we use. > > The driver will be committed to -CURRENT first and MFC'ed to > > -STABL

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Andre Oppermann
Prafulla Deuskar wrote: > > All, > > Intel Corporation has released a gigabit driver for > PRO/1000 series of adapters. That is funny! jlemon commited his gx driver for the same boards just two weeks ago. What happend at Intel? Their driver is even released under the BSD license! (and the Linu

Re: Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Geoff Mohler
Yay..stable jumbo frames! :^) On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Prafulla Deuskar wrote: > All, > > Intel Corporation has released a gigabit driver for > PRO/1000 series of adapters. > > The driver is available for download from the following > url: > > http://appsr.intel.com/scripts-df/Product_Filter.asp

Intel gigabit driver

2001-11-28 Thread Prafulla Deuskar
All, Intel Corporation has released a gigabit driver for PRO/1000 series of adapters. The driver is available for download from the following url: http://appsr.intel.com/scripts-df/Product_Filter.asp?ProductID=415 The driver will be committed to -CURRENT first and MFC'ed to -STABLE later. T

Re: Does FreeBSD support copy-on-write pages?

2001-11-28 Thread Gérard Roudier
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, setantae wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 06:31:31PM +0100, Gérard Roudier wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, setantae wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 06:54:17PM -, Andrey Pugachev wrote: > > > > I am just curious, can FreeBSD kernel perform function calle

Re: FreeBSD on vmware

2001-11-28 Thread Ian Dowse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Makoto Matsushita writes: >I really know I'm doing a stupid thing, but here is benchmark results >of both "plain" and "patched" 5-current (as of Nov/26/2001). Patched >FreeBSD is about 10% faster than before. ... but only if you spend most of your time running CPU

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2001-11-28 19:59:38, Richard Sharpe wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: > >As I said, Richard's a member of the Samba team. He's also going to > >be working on FreeBSD in the foreseeable future, so his intentions > >here are completely honourable :-) He's sent me the report, but since > >I didn't say I

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 06:35:48PM +, John Vinters wrote: > > I've (reasonably) recently installed 4.3-Release on a system running > Samba and a few light telnet apps, and noticed similar performance > problems. > > The SMB sessions would randomly change speed, and telnet sessions would > su

Thanks! (Re: multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?)

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Ellard
Thanks to everyone who responded to my query. It looks like vinum and/or ccd will do exactly what I want and they look very straightforward to configure. I probably could have discovered this myself (as several people pointed out), but I was blinded by my assumption that RAID implied redundancy-

Re: multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?

2001-11-28 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Dan Ellard wrote: >Are there a way under FreeBSD to build a file >system using more than one special file? > >For example, I have a machine with three 9G >SCSI disks, and I'd like to build a 27G file >system by combining them. See vinum(8) or ccdconfig(8). A very quick peru

Re: multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?

2001-11-28 Thread Geoff Mohler
vinum..duh..sorry guys. My brain kicked out ccd before I could look it up. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Michael Lucas wrote: > man 8 vinum > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:48:48PM -0500, Dan Ellard wrote: > > > > Are there a way under FreeBSD to build a file > > system using more than one special file?

Re: multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?

2001-11-28 Thread Geoff Mohler
man ccd On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Dan Ellard wrote: > > Are there a way under FreeBSD to build a file > system using more than one special file? > > For example, I have a machine with three 9G > SCSI disks, and I'd like to build a 27G file > system by combining them. > > Thanks, > -Dan > >

Re: multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?

2001-11-28 Thread Michael Lucas
man 8 vinum On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:48:48PM -0500, Dan Ellard wrote: > > Are there a way under FreeBSD to build a file > system using more than one special file? > > For example, I have a machine with three 9G > SCSI disks, and I'd like to build a 27G file > system by combining them. > > Th

Re: multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?

2001-11-28 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dan Ellard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011128 11:49] wrote: > > Are there a way under FreeBSD to build a file > system using more than one special file? > > For example, I have a machine with three 9G > SCSI disks, and I'd like to build a 27G file > system by combining them. Yup, see the vinum man p

multi-disk file systems on FreeBSD?

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Ellard
Are there a way under FreeBSD to build a file system using more than one special file? For example, I have a machine with three 9G SCSI disks, and I'd like to build a 27G file system by combining them. Thanks, -Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe free

Re: FreeBSD on vmware

2001-11-28 Thread Glenn Gombert
I could not even get 'Current' to boot at all under VMware 3.0 without applying the patch that was mentioned a couple weeks ago under Win2K... -- Glenn Gombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (513) 587-2643 x2263 - voicemail/fax Makoto Matsushita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > iedowse> Some

Re: FreeBSD on vmware

2001-11-28 Thread Glenn Gombert
I could not even get 'Currnet' to boot at all under VMware 3.0 without applying the patch that was mentioned a couple weeks ago under Win2K... -- Glenn Gombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (513) 587-2643 x2263 - voicemail/fax Makoto Matsushita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > iedowse> Some

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread John Vinters
I've (reasonably) recently installed 4.3-Release on a system running Samba and a few light telnet apps, and noticed similar performance problems. The SMB sessions would randomly change speed, and telnet sessions would suffer from occasional "hesitation" (this is on a Dual PIII-700 MHz machine w

RE: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Nate Williams
> As a follow-up, I've just checked the newreno setting on the boxes I > experienced the problems with - newreno is on. > I'll try turning it off and see if I experience any problems. BTW, what does > it do exactly? It's supposed to make performance of resends/ACKs better in the case of packet lo

RE: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Nate Williams
> I had a similar problem, especially with different FreeBSD 4.x boxes (4.1.1, > 4.2, 4.3, 4.4-stable after dirpref merge) and with Windows NT systems, but > the crap performance was only1 limited to FTP. SSH, NFS and CVS operations > were all fine. We're not using any of the other listed service

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Richard Sharpe wrote: > I am quite happy for the report to be sent out. I do not believe I have > an ax to grind here. > > While my background is more in Linux over the last few years, it has > been fun to play around with FreeBSD (and it has more of an Ultrix feel > to it

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 06:37:05PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > don't. Which would have been more useful: say to Richard "sorry, my > plate's full", or "I can't help you, but I'll try to find people who > aren't too aggressive to help you". Nate has given some information. > You can't blame him fo

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:51:11AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > >Note, some of the performance issues were made better by disabling the > > >TCP newreno implementation, but it's still poor and very inconsistent > > >for hosts not on the local network, while the Linux box next to it gets > > >mu

Re: FreeBSD on vmware

2001-11-28 Thread Makoto Matsushita
iedowse> Someone mentioned on a list somewhere that vmware takes forever to iedowse> emulate the cmpxchg instruction, and that using the I386_CPU version iedowse> of atomic_cmpset_int() helps a lot. I really know I'm doing a stupid thing, but here is benchmark results of both "plain" and "patche

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Matthew Emmerton
> FWIW, I'm seeing this as well. However, this appears to be a new > occurance, as we were using a FreeBSD 3.X system for our reference test > platform. I recently updated it to FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE, and I'm getting > nothing but complaints about broken connections, poor performance, and > very i

RE: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > Also, a query on my timesheets shows that I had the same FTP problems > on a FreeBSD 3.2 box with the dc driver talking to an NT4 Terminal > Server with onboard Intel 8255x controller via a 10/100 hub (full > duplex), and also a FreeBSD 4.0 box with the rl driver talking to an > NT4 Term

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Michel TALON
Someone recently submitted a PR about TCP based NFS being significantly slower under 4.X. I wonder if it could be related? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/32141 There is quite a lot of detail in the PR and the submitter has no trouble reproducing the problem. For what it is worth

libc and irs

2001-11-28 Thread foster
Hi, Can someone please help me with (hopefully) a simple problem (don't know if this is -questions or -hackers question). I want to set up a 4.4 (stable) system to use the IRS facilities in bind (9.2) - I can build the static and shared libbind libraries (ldconfig finds shared libraries ok), and

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:41:18AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > I've just been talking with a friend of mine from the Samba team. > > He's about to change jobs, and a lot of his work in future will > > involve FreeBSD. He's just been doing some performance testing, and > > while the numbers ar

Re: Does FreeBSD support copy-on-write pages?

2001-11-28 Thread Julian Elischer
386BSD got it from the MACH Vm which was grafted into BSD some time in 1990 or the late 80's On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, setantae wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 06:31:31PM +0100, Gérard Roudier wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, setantae wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 06:54:17PM -

RE: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Chris Knight
Howdy, As a follow-up, I've just checked the newreno setting on the boxes I experienced the problems with - newreno is on. I'll try turning it off and see if I experience any problems. BTW, what does it do exactly? Also, a query on my timesheets shows that I had the same FTP problems on a FreeBSD

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2001-11-28 Thread Matthew
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RE: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Chris Knight
Howdy, I had a similar problem, especially with different FreeBSD 4.x boxes (4.1.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4-stable after dirpref merge) and with Windows NT systems, but the crap performance was only limited to FTP. SSH, NFS and CVS operations were all fine. The pre-4.3 boxes are all using RTL8029 cards, an

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Richard Sharpe
Greg Lehey wrote: > I think I made a mistake by not opening this immediately. Certainly I > haven't seen any particularly animosity here so far, and Richard can > defend himself, so: FreeBSD hackers, meet Richard Sharpe. Richard, > meet the hackers. > > As I said, Richard's a member of the Sam

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Nate Williams
> > If you want me to shutup and go into a corner, it might make you feel > > better, but it certainly won't solve the real problem. > > I made it clear that my problem was not with the complaint itself. No, you didn't. > My problem with it was with the lack of technical backing or any > real w

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 28 November 2001 at 2:22:40 -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011128 02:14] wrote: >> >> If you want me to shutup and go into a corner, it might make you feel >> better, but it certainly won't solve the real problem. > > I made it clear that my pr

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011128 02:14] wrote: > > If you want me to shutup and go into a corner, it might make you feel > better, but it certainly won't solve the real problem. I made it clear that my problem was not with the complaint itself. My problem with it was with the lack of

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Nate Williams
> > I know my lack of information isn't helping much, and that I've not done > > much to help debug the problem. However, all my attempts to track down > > what is causing this from a high-level (w/out digging into the code > > itself and analyzing tcpdump output) have come up empty. > > It's no

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 28 November 2001 at 2:03:21 -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011127 23:08] wrote: >> I've just been talking with a friend of mine from the Samba team. >> He's about to change jobs, and a lot of his work in future will >> involve FreeBSD. He's just

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011127 23:08] wrote: > I've just been talking with a friend of mine from the Samba team. > He's about to change jobs, and a lot of his work in future will > involve FreeBSD. He's just been doing some performance testing, and > while the numbers are pretty even (s

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Greg Lehey
I think I made a mistake by not opening this immediately. Certainly I haven't seen any particularly animosity here so far, and Richard can defend himself, so: FreeBSD hackers, meet Richard Sharpe. Richard, meet the hackers. As I said, Richard's a member of the Samba team. He's also going to be

Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux?

2001-11-28 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Nate Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011128 01:41] wrote: > > I know my lack of information isn't helping much, and that I've not done > much to help debug the problem. However, all my attempts to track down > what is causing this from a high-level (w/out digging into the code > itself and analy