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The concept that netgraph hooks are a leg up on say, ETs
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:27:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The concept that netgraph hooks are a leg up on say, ETs drivers that
have integrated bandwidth management and prioritization, WAN bridging
support, load balancing and a probably 25% performance advantage is a bit
iedowse ... but only if you spend most of your time running CPU benchmarks :-)
That's right :-)
iedowse On slower CPUs (I was using a 400MHz PII), the interrupts can
iedowse soak up virtually all of the available processing capacity
iedowse without the patch. I suspect this effect is
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:38:35AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
On 21-Nov-01 David Xu wrote:
4.4-stable, file sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h,
--- cpufunc.h.orig Wed Nov 21 13:35:36 2001
+++ cpufunc.h Wed Nov 21 15:00:12 2001
@@ -72,7 +72,7 @@
{
u_int result;
-
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:34:37PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
CDROM installs are most likely going to use cdldr soon so we will have the
entire module suite available from loader. For boot floppies we should
probably use the one that is smaller on disk.. but we also have the the
embryonic
Harti Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is
Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star
developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken.
Unfortunately, star has it's own share of problems:
- A
On 29-Nov-01 Leo Bicknell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:34:37PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
CDROM installs are most likely going to use cdldr soon so we will have the
entire module suite available from loader. For boot floppies we should
probably use the one that is smaller on disk.. but
On 29-Nov-01 Peter Pentchev wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:38:35AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
On 21-Nov-01 David Xu wrote:
4.4-stable, file sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h,
--- cpufunc.h.orig Wed Nov 21 13:35:36 2001
+++ cpufunc.h Wed Nov 21 15:00:12 2001
@@ -72,7 +72,7 @@
glenngombert I could not even get 'Current' to boot at all under
glenngombert VMware 3.0 without applying the patch that was mentioned
glenngombert a couple weeks ago under Win2K...
What goes wrong to you? Unable to boot with boot floppies?
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Makoto `MAR' Matsushita
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Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is
Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star
developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken.
Unfortunately, star has it's own share of problems:
- A highly idiosyncratic command
I started noticing some TCP weirdness when I moved my bandwidth
stats site from my office to my colo facility last week. The colo
is five miles away by road and 1200 miles away by network. Netscape
would stop for seconds at a time while loading the graph images but
there was no
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I mentioned above, we CAN license the driver code and the DDK for
development. This means that you could produce FreeBSD drivers which we
could then distribute in a binary form under a free end-user license.
Frankly this is the only way
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 08:04:45AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
Yes, it's called the mini-iso and is basically the first CD w/o any ports or
packages. The last one I built for current that didn't include Xfree86 was
about 200 Meg. That also didn't include the ports collection or any of the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andre Oppermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happend at Intel? Their driver is even released under the BSD
license! (and the Linux one under the GPL)
That last bit is incorrect. The Intel driver for Linux is released
under a 3-clause BSD license.
John
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The concept that netgraph hooks are a leg up on say, ETs drivers that
have integrated bandwidth management and prioritization, WAN bridging
support, load balancing and a probably 25% performance advantage is a bit
entertaining. Unless you need to do some convoluted encapsulation netgraph
From: fergus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps it makes sense to switch to star instead? The last version is
Posix conform, supports extended headers and ACLs. According to the star
developer (Joerg Schilling) GNU tar is severly broken.
Unfortunately, star has it's own share of problems:
- A
Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling
_may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead
of keeping a real tar?
Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was
created.
Nate
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Netgraph is a prototyping tool, which has enough performance to be
useful in non-performance-critical applications. (such as all sync
interfaces). It is not designed for gigabit interfaces etc.
You are selling Netgraph
I am wondering whether we need contiguous memory for a PHYSICAL buffer to
perform the DMA I/O. It seems not, because regular buffers can be
consisted of non-contiguous pages. The disk driver should treat both
kinds of buffers in the same way. So can I say that any buffers used by
kernel (via
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 29 21:11:16 2001
Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling
_may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead
of keeping a real tar?
Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was
created.
Well
hi all...
i was asking...
it might sound daft...
is the driver already existing in the -CURRENT
repository...
my main point is... when are we going to put the entry
for it in devices.c for src/usr.sbin/sysinstall
thanks...
regards...
Hiten Pandya
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling
_may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead
of keeping a real tar?
Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was
created.
Well this is from BSD-4.3:
[ SNIP ]
... And it
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Polstra writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Netgraph is a prototyping tool, which has enough performance to be
useful in non-performance-critical applications. (such as all sync
interfaces). It is not designed for
Thanks! :-)
The fact that it works in high speed applications is a pleasant side
effect of the fact that we tried REALLY HARD
to make if low-ish overhead, but
we really originally wrote it for T1 speed devices
(and lower). The main design goal was to try make it easy for people
to reconfigure it
hi,
i am butting in the argument half way but...
although i am new to FreeBSD... what i am saying
is...
even if intel's driver is better... i dont care
about
that because... after all, thats their device...
so.. of course they will make the device driver
better
ecause they were the ones who
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
- It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in
itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people
probably don't want to lose.
It's a feature that is essential that FreeBSD doesn't lose IMO. Those
of us who
* Eric Melville [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011129 13:59] wrote:
The concept that netgraph hooks are a leg up on say, ETs drivers that
have integrated bandwidth management and prioritization, WAN bridging
support, load balancing and a probably 25% performance advantage is a bit
entertaining.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:27:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lets face it. If you were going to sit down and design an interface for frame
relay, multi-protocol support, etc, you'd have to be smoking something pretty
strong to come up with netgraph. But its free and there is source,
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 29 21:25:58 2001
Of course, if you only know GNUtar Star's standard option handling
_may_ look strange. But then why did FreBSD switch to GNUtar instead
of keeping a real tar?
Because there didn't exist a real tar at the time that FreeBSD was
created.
I am wondering whether we need contiguous memory for a PHYSICAL buffer to
perform the DMA I/O.
yes. The DMA request should either not cross a physical page or
if the request does cross a physical page, those pages must be
contiguous.
the exception to this is if your DMA card has a memory
Just for historical reasons I have a question...
Is Dennis and Elder Troll or was he cast of the fire and brimstone
of the BSDi dissolution?
Dennis does something along the lines of building wan cards and selling
them for a number of systems, including FreeBSD. The ironic part, of
course,
fergus wrote:
- It doesn't support incremental backups. That isn't a problem in
itself, but it's a feature our GNU tar currently has and people
probably don't want to lose.
I dunno... The entire incremental thing in tar is dependant on NOT using compression,
which IMHO makes it pretty
While running my KLD that does a lot of I/O, I see the following message:
ahc0: Timedout SCB already complete. interrupts may not be functioning.
This happens after my KLD runs a while.
What could be the problem? Where could the bugs likely exist?
Thanks for any clue.
-Zhihui
To
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 10:09:58AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
I started noticing some TCP weirdness when I moved my bandwidth
stats site from my office to my colo facility last week. The colo
is five miles away by road and 1200 miles away by network. Netscape
would stop for seconds at
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 12:42:34AM -0500, John Capo wrote:
sent. find / -print | dd obs=1 will screw up within a few seconds
and stay that way. Netstat in another ssh session shows data ready
to go:
Hmm, some ssh versions tend to hang randomly on lossy links (in the
protocol perhaps, but I
In a message dated 11/29/2001 7:16:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, let me give you something else to put in your pipe and smoke. :-)
I've spent about $800 on a few WANic 4xx cards (used, I'll grant) precisely
because
source for the driver is available. I
In a message dated 11/29/2001 7:30:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lets face it. If you were going to sit down and design an interface for
frame
relay, multi-protocol support, etc, you'd have to be smoking something
pretty
strong to come up with netgraph.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:03:54AM +0100, Pierre Beyssac wrote:
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 12:42:34AM -0500, John Capo wrote:
sent. find / -print | dd obs=1 will screw up within a few seconds
and stay that way. Netstat in another ssh session shows data ready
to go:
Hmm, some ssh versions
Whos the pimply-faced moron who keeps blocking my addresses...are you hiding
behind your computer and feeling important?
You are aware that there are an infinite number of email addresses, right?
db
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The behavior is different in a telnet session as is executing
ssh server 'find / -print | dd obs=1'. Telnet pauses but not
as long, the ssh command saturates my fractional T.
What I am seeing may not be related to the issues Greg brought up
at all. But it does seem odd to me that a window of
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011129 18:58] wrote:
Whos the pimply-faced moron who keeps blocking my addresses...are you hiding
behind your computer and feeling important?
Dennis, be assured if I had the access I would have done it a long
time ago.
You are aware that there are an
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 06:44:14PM +, Josh Paetzel wrote:
Could you try the same in a telnet or rsh connection? I bet it will
work.
This gives me the same 1.5megs/sec I am getting with ftp. Doesn't
matter whether I use ssh or telnet.
Hmm, sorry, looks like I misunderstood John's
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:25:47AM +0100, Pierre Beyssac wrote:
This is consistent with the value in the backlog shown by netstat,
What is the value of net.inet.tcp.sendspace on the server? It's 16K
Uh, it wouldn't harm, but it won't do much good either on your
example. Actually I should
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 07:58:25PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whos the pimply-faced moron who keeps blocking my addresses...are you hiding
behind your computer and feeling important?
You are aware that there are an infinite number of email addresses, right?
db
Dennis,
The FreeBSD
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:25:47AM +0100, Pierre Beyssac wrote:
What is the value of net.inet.tcp.sendspace on the server? It's 16K
on -stable, it should be very interesting to try and increase it
to 32K or 64K, it makes a lot difference on high bw*delay links.
*grumble* I'll try to avoid my
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The concept that netgraph hooks are a leg up on say, ETs drivers that
have integrated bandwidth management and prioritization, WAN bridging
support, load balancing and a probably 25% performance advantage is a bit
entertaining. Unless you
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 08:42:25PM -0500, Leo Bicknell wrote:
*grumble* I'll try to avoid my tirade. 16K _will cause problems for
virtually all users_. You can do the math and see it won't keep a T1
full across country.
I can't reproduce this result, 16K fills a T1 for 11 ms, which is
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:23:45AM +0100, Pierre Beyssac wrote:
I can't reproduce this result, 16K fills a T1 for 11 ms, which is
22000 km (at 2/3 of light speed), enough to get halfway round the
earth...
Your math is a little funny.
4000 km New York to LA
c = 300,000 km/sec
Speed of light
If you give me your IP address, I can ping *from* Columbia.edu to your
machine and see what I get, that should pretty much solve any issues
that may arise.
-- Jonathan
-
Jonathan Slivko - Voyager Internet - www.voyageri.net
Web Hosting - Web
Dont forget the latencies introduced by routing hardware..Id not expect
the average DSL modem to be to snappy about its internal packet forwarding
performance.
http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/rants/Latency.html
Thats a good read
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Leo Bicknell wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30,
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 08:10:25PM -0800, Igor M Podlesny wrote:
hm.. it seems somebody has multiplied my timezone by -1 ;-)
You might observe this bug doing traceroute while standing behind
a GW's interface with several IP-addresses (aliases). In this case
you always got ICMP.TIMXCEED
John Capo wrote:
Now this thread comes along and I realize there is something wrong
so I did a little testing.
find / -print on one of my servers in a ssh session will fill the
pipe to my office, 256K frame, and run nicely then get into the
starting and stopping mode after a good amount
If memory serves me right, John Capo wrote:
[TCP weirdness]
I see exactly the same behavior on 3 -stable machines running kernels
from late October and early November. Another -stable machine with
a kernel from late September does pause but not as consistently as
the later kernel machines
Hi,
attached is a preliminary report on a comparison of Samba performance on
FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE and Linux 2.4.13ac4.
I have posted it because I promised to do so, however, I think you
should take the numbers with a grain of salt.
It demonstrates that overall, for the client tests I did
For a project I'm working on, we need a kernel version of realloc().
Two questions:
#1 Does the patch below look correct?
#2 If so, is this something worth committing?
Thanks for any comments.
-Archie
__
Archie
Richard Sharpe wrote:
attached is a preliminary report on a comparison of Samba performance on
FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE and Linux 2.4.13ac4.
Are you aware that 4.3-RELEASE has IDE drive write caching turned off
by default? What was the Linux system configured with? 4.4-RELEASE
has it back on
One thing I would like to do as a hobby is start a classic multi-user unix
system and giving out shell accounts to whoever wants one. Not a money
maker, of course, but it would be fun.
My question: does anyone have any comments on using `jail` in a public
environment like this - that is,
* Joesh Juphland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011130 01:17] wrote:
One thing I would like to do as a hobby is start a classic multi-user unix
system and giving out shell accounts to whoever wants one. Not a money
maker, of course, but it would be fun.
Jail will do pretty much what you want either
can anyone suggest a method of determining inside libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c
if a binary being run is native or linux emulation? i'd like to be able
to write code which basically does:
if (IsNativeCode())
PreloadSomeLibraries()
any suggestions?
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