Re: diskless problems

2004-01-11 Thread Danny Braniss
while the subject is being revived, there are some changes/additions I made to libstand/bootp.c, it exports all the dhcp tags so that they are available to rc.diskless? or rc.d/initdiskless via kenv check out ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/diskless-boot/ these are a bit date,

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Paul Robinson
Wes Peters wrote: Faster than loading a single ISO image with only the boot information and sysinstall and booting from that, rather than 3 (or 4 or 5) floppies? A CD-R is cheaper, faster, more reliable, and you don't have to keep feeding them into the machine. I think you're missing the

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Wes Peters
On Sunday 11 January 2004 12:27 am, Paul Robinson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, and I can see why abondoning the current method in 5-6 years would be reasonable, but I don't see the immediate advantage of making the change right now. So you'll be signing up to do the floppy release

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: I'm having trouble seeing what RF does that Vinum (or at least a properly GEOMified Vinum) can't do... Please read the RAIDframe documents at http://www.pdl.cmu.edu/RAIDframe before you ask again. I have, long ago, and frankly

Re: Large Filesystem Woes

2004-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - A statement these options are no longer necessary and will be be removed in a future release in the newfs(8)-equivalent man page should read more like these options are essential (this relates to dimensioning metadata allocation based on the

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Paul Robinson
Wes Peters wrote: So you'll be signing up to do the floppy release engineering, and to modify the kernel so it can load the boot-device modules dynamically. That's great news! If the kernel changes don't support the established distribution format, the kernel changes are broken, not the

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Understood. I just think saying let's get rid of floppies is shooting a dog that happens to be near to hand because you don't like that dog, to stretch the analogy. I don't think you have any idea how difficult it is (and has been for a couple of years

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-11 10:19 +0100]: Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Understood. I just think saying let's get rid of floppies is shooting a dog that happens to be near to hand because you don't like that dog, to stretch the analogy. I don't think you

Re: SCM options (was Re: Where is FreeBSD going?)

2004-01-11 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 00:05, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 05:01:13PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 9:35 PM + 1/10/04, Andrew Boothman wrote: Peter Schuller wrote: Most of the noteworthy features of subversion are listed on the project front page:

FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread 70uf33q Hu5541n
hey guys, Just got my copy of FreeBSD 5.1. Spent about an hour going through the BSD Handbook and preparing a Installation checklist. ok here's my problem. I have a WD 40 GB HDD the primary partition is 10 GB, with the extended partition 28 GB.(the rest 2 GB is in WD's bank). OK , the extended

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Leidinge r writes: I'm a little bit confused. I've read Pouls mail as an suggestion to remove vinum from -current and let people modify it in the perforce repository. If I got this wrong, please tell me and everything is fine, but if I got it right, do you

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 11 January 2004 at 12:08:24 +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:46:49 +1030 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [missing attribution to phk] I'd say lets kick them both into perforce and let whoever wants their hands have a go at them. For some

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Miguel Mendez
Scott Long wrote: I started RAIDframe three years ago with the hope of bringing a proven and extensible RAID stack to FreeBSD. Unfortunately, while it was made to work pretty well on 4.x, it has never been viable on 5.x; it never survived the introduction of GEOM and removal of the old disk

Remote GDB online and kernel functions

2004-01-11 Thread Tom Alsberg
Hi there. I sent the following question to the list a while ago, and got no answer yet. The problem looks weird to me, but I have the feeling that I'm missing something very simple (I did RTFM, though) - so if anyone can provide any guidance - cannot be that complicated of a question... I

Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Sunday 11 January 2004 11:29, 70uf33q Hu5541n wrote: hey guys, Just got my copy of FreeBSD 5.1. Spent about an hour going through the BSD Handbook and preparing a Installation checklist. ok here's my problem. I have a WD 40 GB HDD the primary partition is 10 GB, with the extended

Re: SCM options (was Re: Where is FreeBSD going?)

2004-01-11 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:27 PM -0800 1/9/04, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: Hi; There is a comparison here: http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/comparison.html I think there are compelling reasons to try subversion, but we have to wait for a 1.0 Release, and this

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Long writes: All, I started RAIDframe three years ago with the hope of bringing a proven and extensible RAID stack to FreeBSD. Unfortunately, while it was made to work pretty well on 4.x, it has never been viable on 5.x; it never survived the introduction of

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:28 AM +0100 2004/01/11, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: I'm having trouble seeing what RF does that Vinum (or at least a properly GEOMified Vinum) can't do... I think Scott is right, in that we should probably have separate RAID vs. LVM systems. It seems to me that vinum naturally fills the

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:12:57 +0100 Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as I would hate to see RF and Vinum disappar from our source tree, maybe what we need to do is to kick them both into training-camp in p4 while you and Greg look the other way. [...] I'd say lets kick them

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:30 PM -0700 2004/01/10, Scott Long wrote: It will probably never be an LVM stack, but I've also always believed that LVM and RAID are related but separate layers. Having looked at the RAIDframe documentation you referenced, it strikes me that it cannot really move towards LVM and

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: As much as I would hate to see RF and Vinum disappar from our source tree, maybe what we need to do is to kick them both into training-camp in p4 while you and Greg look the other way. Hmm. I can't see why they have to disappear from

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:46:49 +1030 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. I can't see why they have to disappear from the source tree, and I don't see why Scott or I should have to look the other way. I don't know about RAIDFrame, but Vinum still works for the most part: [...]

Assembler coding help needed.

2004-01-11 Thread Martin Nilsson
I'm trying to find out why I can't boot 5.2 from USB CDROM on Supermicro motherboards. (I have an old Gateway P3 that can!). I've found out that that only 0x20 of 0x4c sectors of the loader are read in and it therfor traps when executed. (read is only called once). My last attempt at

Re: freebsd-hackers Digest, Vol 42, Issue 6

2004-01-11 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 03:57:07PM +, YACINE GHANJAOUI wrote: when trying to intercept UDP packet after changing the protocol number from 17 to a user one (99) in the ip_input.c file. when trying to regenrate the packet after inserting some bit errors an error message appears in the

MD(4) cleanups and unload lesson.

2004-01-11 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
Hello hackers... With attached patch unloading md(4) module is possible. It also cleans up big part of code according to style(9). Patch is also avaliable at: http://garage.freebsd.pl/patches/md.c.patch -- Pawel Jakub Dawidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNIX Systems

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Marco van de Voort
I also don't think it's the issue that needs to be dealt with - distribution is much, much, MUCH bigger an issue than shall we get rid of floppies? I sent this to the list before, but it got ignored, so I'll send it again, where Jordan points out we have bigger issues to deal with when

Re: diskless problems

2004-01-11 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Danny Braniss wrote: while the subject is being revived, there are some changes/additions I made to libstand/bootp.c, it exports all the dhcp tags so that they are available to rc.diskless? or rc.d/initdiskless via kenv check out

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Nik Clayton
On 8 Jan 2004, at 14:39, Leo Bicknell wrote: Then, to replace the current floppy process, a new floppy installer is created. It may or may not be based on FreeBSD, but what it needs to be able to do is boot, load a network driver, configure the network, and ftp the above mentioned iso into ram,

binary files in src tree

2004-01-11 Thread Colin Percival
While browsing the FreeBSD src tree, I came across a number of binary files (listed below); the regression tests are perhaps understandable, but shouldn't the rest of these files be uuencoded? contrib/groff/doc/gnu.png contrib/ipfilter/samples/ipfilter-pb.gif

Re: MD(4) cleanups and unload lesson.

2004-01-11 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: With attached patch unloading md(4) module is possible. It also cleans up big part of code according to style(9). Could you separate this into a functional diff and a style diff? There's a general preference to not combine them, as it means

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread David Gilbert
Scott == Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started RAIDframe three years ago with the hope of bringing a proven and extensible RAID stack to FreeBSD. I'm having trouble seeing what RF does that Vinum (or at

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Gilbert writes: That said, we need a strong and robust software raid. And as long as we have something which mostly work there seems to be insufficient motivation to make that happen. Therefore my proposal to send both RF and Vinum in training camp in p4. --

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 10:27:46AM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: * Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-11 10:19 +0100]: Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Understood. I just think saying let's get rid of floppies is shooting a dog that happens to be near to hand because

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread William Grim
Marco van de Voort wrote: I also don't think it's the issue that needs to be dealt with - distribution is much, much, MUCH bigger an issue than shall we get rid of floppies? I sent this to the list before, but it got ignored, so I'll send it again, where Jordan points out we have bigger issues

Re: Assembler coding help needed.

2004-01-11 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Martin Nilsson wrote: I'm trying to find out why I can't boot 5.2 from USB CDROM on Supermicro motherboards. (I have an old Gateway P3 that can!). I've found out that that only 0x20 of 0x4c sectors of the loader are read in and it therfor traps when executed. (read is only called once). My

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread David Gilbert
Poul-Henning == Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Poul-Henning Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: Poul-Henning The reason I say this is that neither of you have the Poul-Henning time needed, and whoever picks up may have ideas, even Poul-Henning

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-11 11:02 -0800]: If you could make this work such that you just stuffed GENERIC and the mfsroot onto however many floppies it takes, I think that would almost certaintly solve re's problems with floppies (i.e. if all they had to do when the

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Miguel Mendez
David Gilbert wrote: In the p4 tree, we can easier add new talent to our developer force and I am pretty sure that some sort of merry band of developers would form around both RF and vinum there. ... now I thought I followed this list relatively well, but can someone point me at what 'p4' is? p4

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Andreas Braukmann
On 01/11/04 12:13:36 +0100 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Leidinger writes: fine, but if I got it right, do you (Greg) agree to remove it from -current? My proposal is to do just that with both vinum and raidframe until one or possibly both are up to full

RE: [Freebsd-hackers] Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread Remko Lodder
Sorry to interupt, but i think that person x, since he has a weird name ;-) , means that the partitioning device of freebsd cannot access the extended partition at all. I had this with a friend of mine, and we could not access the devices anymore since it was packed inside another partition (we

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Gilbert writes: : That said, we need a strong and robust software raid. : : And as long as we have something which mostly work there seems to : be insufficient motivation to

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Avleen Vig
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 09:24:38PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: Now, who wants to give this a try? OK, I tried now the following: I made copies of the 4.9 RELEASE Floppies, split the half of the kernel and mfsroot to another floppy and added two appropriate splitfiles. Afterwards

Re: Assembler coding help needed. [solved, patch enclosed]

2004-01-11 Thread Martin Nilsson
Marcin Dalecki wrote: Martin Nilsson wrote: I'm trying to find out why I can't boot 5.2 from USB CDROM on Supermicro motherboards. (I have an old Gateway P3 that can!). I've found out that that only 0x20 of 0x4c sectors of the loader are read in and it therfor traps when executed. (read is

Re: SCM options (was Re: Where is FreeBSD going?)

2004-01-11 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:00 AM + 1/11/04, Doug Rabson wrote: On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 00:05, Peter Jeremy wrote: I disagree. Andrew raised two issues (type of license and port vs base location). The type of license is an input to the decision as to which SCM to choose - BSD preferable ... Subversion has a

Re: SCM options (was Re: Where is FreeBSD going?)

2004-01-11 Thread Garrett Rooney
On Jan 11, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 10:00 AM + 1/11/04, Doug Rabson wrote: On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 00:05, Peter Jeremy wrote: I disagree. Andrew raised two issues (type of license and port vs base location). The type of license is an input to the decision as to

RE: [Freebsd-hackers] Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread 70uf33q Hu5541n
hey Remko, the FreeBSD sysinstall (i think) program does identify the extended partitions but not the logical drives contained in it. and yes, I've not introduced myself yet. :D btw, I'm Toufeeq from Chennai,India. 20 yrs old doing my Engineering final year. Been a linux user for 4 years now.

RE: [Freebsd-hackers] Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread Remko Lodder
Excuse me, that is what i ment, (the logical drives) As said with Avinash, we could not access that as well, and he used to program he replied with (will be posted to this list when the admin approves :) ) to restore it's data. But perhaps that makes it also able to modify it a little to make it

RE: [Freebsd-hackers] Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread 70uf33q Hu5541n
hey, ok noted. will wait for Avinash's software.will also check out if its possible under PartitionMagic 8 and let you know if that works out. great to be among this community. bye, Toufeeq --- Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse me, that is what i ment, (the logical drives) As said

Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x

2004-01-11 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Avleen Vig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-11 13:34 -0800]: On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 09:24:38PM +0100, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: Now, who wants to give this a try? OK, I tried now the following: I made copies of the 4.9 RELEASE Floppies, split the half of the kernel and mfsroot to

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Andreas Braukmann wrote: On 01/11/04 12:13:36 +0100 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Leidinger writes: fine, but if I got it right, do you (Greg) agree to remove it from -current? My proposal is to do just that with both vinum

Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread 70uf33q Hu5541n
hey Daan, :) I did use Partition mAgic 8 to resize the partition. PM8 resized the logical drive.Not the extended partition.SO though I have unused space on my HD, its locked away in the Extended Partition and not detected by F-BSD. Is it possible to resize the whole extended partition with PM8?

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Barney Wolff
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 12:13:36PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Leidinge r writes: I'm a little bit confused. I've read Pouls mail as an suggestion to remove vinum from -current and let people modify it in the perforce repository. If I got this

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum

2004-01-11 Thread Scott W
David Gilbert wrote: Poul-Henning == Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Poul-Henning Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: Poul-Henning The reason I say this is that neither of you have the Poul-Henning time needed, and whoever picks up may

RE: [Freebsd-hackers] Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms

2004-01-11 Thread Avinash Piare
Hi, I had a similair problem as Remko described. I used R-Linux. U can download it from http://www.r-tt.com Put the hard drive, on which u can't reach the certain partition, in a pc with Windows installed on it, run R-Linux and u should be able to see the drive and partition that u couldn't

Re: SCM options (was Re: Where is FreeBSD going?)

2004-01-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 09:05:50AM -0800, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: I think we must wait until a 1.0 version is available. SVN is meant to be a replacement to CVS. The projects repository is using perforce which happens to be a good tool, so moving it to svn is probably not a step forward

RE: [Freebsd-hackers] Re: FreeBSD 5.1 Installation probelms !-==solved==-!

2004-01-11 Thread 70uf33q Hu5541n
whew! Gentlemen, its done, freeBSD 5.1 has been installed.PartitionMagic 8 did the trick though :( sad that I had to use windows. anyway, this is what I did.(Daan deserves credit) 1.free disk space at the last logical drive of the extended partition. 2.resize the last logical drive to create

Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame)

2004-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Narvi writes: oh yes - and please fix disklabel to support an arbirtary number of file system per a disk or slice in the process, because otherwise it will not be converting many setups. We need to move to a different labeling format because bsdlabel has a number of

Re: Future of RAIDFrame

2004-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?= writes: M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe this would be a good test-case for seeing how well it works? Maybe not. We do need to run a few more test-cases for things through this scenario... I'm not sure this

Re: UNIX / BSD parallel port programming documentation

2004-01-11 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Saturday 10 January 2004 02:33, Vladimir Terziev wrote: I have to develop small server which has to manage custom microcontroller via parallel port interface. Does anyone know good manual/documentation about UNIX / BSD parallel port programming ? Someone mentioned the ppi etc

Gratituous ARP and the em driver

2004-01-11 Thread Nielsen
When I change IP addresses on my 'em' gigabit NIC, ARP isn't sent properly. This appears to be the problem in the following bug report, however i'm using the 'fixed' version of the em driver (in FreeBSD 4.9). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=54488 Does anyone have any tips on how to