A subtle libstand bug?

2004-06-06 Thread Yar Tikhiy
Hi there, I'm sorry to report the problem I observed in so little detail, but OTOH I feel I must notify the community about it. I'm afraid there's too little detail for a PR. Yesterday I did binary upgrade of my home system, from 4.9-R to 4.10-R. Then I merged my old /etc into the new one. Of

Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1: Mutex/Spinlock starvation?

2004-06-06 Thread Ali Niknam
Hi Robert, As promised my findings regarding the changes; just came home after a night of trying and praying :) Actually, by default, most mutexes in the system are sleep mutexes, so they sleep on contention rather than spinning. In some cases, this actually hurts more than spinning, because

machine is unusable with panic: vrele: negative ref cnt

2004-06-06 Thread Alan Evans
On boot I see the following on an IBM T30 laptop: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ad0: FAILURE - READ_MUL status=59READY,DSC,DRQ,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=376639 ad0: FAILURE - READ_MUL status=59READY,DSC,DRQ,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=376639

Semantics of seteuid(uid) vs. setreuid(-1,uid)

2004-06-06 Thread Stefan Eßer
Any reason, that there is a difference in semantics between: seteuid(id) vs. setreuid(-1, id)??? The tests performed on the arguments are different (assuming a fixed arg of -1 for ruid) in that seteuid does not support the case of (euid == cr_uid): seteuid(euid):

Odd requestion: EISA Configuration disk

2004-06-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
I have managed to really mess up my NEC Express/II P90LT EISA system that I've been trying to get up for some eisa rework I'm doing. Can anybody send me the base motherboard configuration program as well as the aic7770 config files (the ones I've found on the net, along with the configuration

Re: Odd requestion: EISA Configuration disk

2004-06-06 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 16:16 06/06/2004, M. Warner Losh wrote: I have managed to really mess up my NEC Express/II P90LT EISA system that I've been trying to get up for some eisa rework I'm doing. Can anybody send me the base motherboard configuration program as well as the aic7770 config files (the ones I've

HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
All, We are about 4-6 weeks away from starting the 5.3 release cycle. As it stands, KSE still only works reliably on i386. There are reports of significant instability on amd64, and it doesn't work at all on alpha and sparc64. I'm willing to drop the alpha requirement and maybe even the sparc64

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 01:14:57PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: All, We are about 4-6 weeks away from starting the 5.3 release cycle. As it stands, KSE still only works reliably on i386. I don't have any problems on ia64. ... I'm willing to drop the alpha requirement and maybe even the

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Scott Long wrote: All, We are about 4-6 weeks away from starting the 5.3 release cycle. As it stands, KSE still only works reliably on i386. There are reports of significant instability on amd64, and it doesn't work at all on alpha and sparc64. I'm willing to drop

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Scott Long wrote: All, We are about 4-6 weeks away from starting the 5.3 release cycle. As it stands, KSE still only works reliably on i386. There are reports of significant instability on amd64, and it doesn't work at all on alpha and sparc64. I'm

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 01:14:57PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: All, We are about 4-6 weeks away from starting the 5.3 release cycle. As it stands, KSE still only works reliably on i386. I don't have any problems on ia64. Good to hear =-) ... I'm willing to drop the alpha

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:27:08PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: Doug Rabson also has basic TLS support working in perforce. What platforms? My understanding was that new binutils and gcc was needed for sparc64 at a minimum. Yes. It's i386 only and not even close to being complete. In fact,

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As with Alpha, the fate of a platform rests on the people who are willing to work on it, not on whether it is in a particular list. Agreed, but it's the projects responsibility to take the tierness and the intend to support multiple

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As with Alpha, the fate of a platform rests on the people who are willing to work on it, not on whether it is in a particular list. Agreed, but it's the projects responsibility to

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Remko Lodder
Hey all, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: Not to take away from the tremendous effort that jake had done for sparc64, but it should really take more than one or two supporting developers to obtain tier

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As with Alpha, the fate of a platform rests on the people who are willing to work on it, not on whether it is in a particular list. Agreed, but it's the projects responsibility to take the tierness and the intend

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
Wilko Bulte wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:12:49PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As with Alpha, the fate of a platform rests on the people who are willing to work on it, not on whether it is in a particular list. Agreed, but it's the

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Don Lewis
On 6 Jun, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As with Alpha, the fate of a platform rests on the people who are willing to work on it, not on whether it is in a particular list. Agreed, but

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 03:49:13PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: amd64 is approaching critical mass for tier-1. There are a number of developers that own amd64 hardware now, and a number of users who are asking about it on the mailing lists. Peter is finishing up the last blocking item for it

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 05:27:56PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it for his own sake. We shouldn't keep an arch at tier 1 just to save face. Better to

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 03:46:44PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it for his own sake. It's not that there is face to loose on alpha, it's that every time I

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 03:46:44PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it for his own sake. It's not that there is face to loose on alpha, it's that

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 3:46 PM -0600 6/6/04, Scott Long wrote: At this point, I'm going to advocate that Alpha be dropped from Tier-1 status for 5.3 and 5-STABLE and no longer be a blocking item for releases. ... As I said back then, demotion is not a terminal condition, and I would be thrilled if someone comes

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Scott Long
Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 3:46 PM -0600 6/6/04, Scott Long wrote: At this point, I'm going to advocate that Alpha be dropped from Tier-1 status for 5.3 and 5-STABLE and no longer be a blocking item for releases. ... As I said back then, demotion is not a terminal condition, and I would be

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:32:11AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Marcel Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it for his own sake. Alpha is special, with

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 05:27:56PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: : : As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 : without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for

Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention

2004-06-06 Thread Wes Peters
On Sunday 06 June 2004 16:49, Scott Long wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 3:46 PM -0600 6/6/04, Scott Long wrote: At this point, I'm going to advocate that Alpha be dropped from Tier-1 status for 5.3 and 5-STABLE and no longer be a blocking item for releases. ... As I said back then,