Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-23 Thread dirkx
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Joshua Lee wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:59:20 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-23 Thread Terry Lambert
Joshua Lee wrote: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still running a vulnerable apache ? Not FreeBSD, but it's

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-23 Thread Joshua Lee
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 02:06:20 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Lee wrote: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way you would deal with this would be to tell Apache that it was an HTTP 1.0 server, since chunking is an HTTP 1.1 feature. I've found a better

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-23 Thread Terry Lambert
Joshua Lee wrote: [ ... mod_blowchunks ... ] But if a client uses chunking legitimately, and does so becuase it believes it's talking to an HTTP server, you've just broken that client's ability to POST/PUT. You mean to say it believes it is talking to an HTTP 1.1 server, yes? Yes. I

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-23 Thread Patrick Thomas
Yeah; this whole thread is premised on working around the problem without an Apache software change. It's a reasonable premise (IMO) -- if you've got a custom compilation and a lot of modules, that can end up being a lot of software. I build a PHP4+SSL+Apache+IMAP+etc. source tree at one

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-22 Thread Joshua Lee
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:59:20 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still running a vulnerable apache ? Not FreeBSD,

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Joshua Lee
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:59:20 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still running a vulnerable apache ? Why not upgrade

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Lamont Granquist
I think that libsafe would protect against this bug to at least prevent against any possible malicious code execution. I think it still leaves the DoS possibility open though... Even some kind of non-exec stack protection patched into FBSD would only generate a SEGV if it got triggered[*].

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 07:33:54PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Surely it's easier to just upgrade the apache port, instead of recompiling your kernel and the entire OS. Not always. (I'm running an old version of Covalent Raven SSL and I'm loathe to upgrade. If it

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Terry Lambert
Joshua Lee wrote: The way you would deal with this would be to tell Apache that it was an HTTP 1.0 server, since chunking is an HTTP 1.1 feature. The only place this is an issue is if you need to reuse an HTTP connection, and that only occurs in HTTP 1.1 when you are doing pipelining.

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 07:33:54PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Surely it's easier to just upgrade the apache port, instead of recompiling your kernel and the entire OS. Not always. (I'm running an old version of Covalent Raven

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 07:33:54PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Surely it's easier to just upgrade the apache port, instead of recompiling your kernel and the entire OS. Not always. (I'm running an old version of

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Bernd Walter
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 02:29:30AM -0400, Joshua Lee wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:59:20 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Frank Mayhar
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 07:33:54PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Surely it's easier to just upgrade the apache port, instead of recompiling your kernel and the entire OS. Not always. (I'm running an old version of Covalent Raven SSL and I'm

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Frank Mayhar
Brandon D. Valentine wrote: However, I would ask Frank if there's a particular reason he needs to use Covalent Raven SSL. OpenSSL is free, works like gangbusters, and comes with FreeBSD. I have a feeling he'd be much happier with it if there's not some other reason he cannot move to it. As

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Patrick Thomas
What none of you has mentioned is the thought I had in mind when I asked this question, and that is, I have a rd machine with 16 jails on it, each running apache. Therefore in a situation like this it would be _much_ easier to just tune a sysctl or rebuild the kernel, vs. rebuilding 16

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Joshua Lee
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:38:21 +0200 Bernd Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 02:29:30AM -0400, Joshua Lee wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:59:20 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way you would deal with this would be to tell Apache that it was an HTTP

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Terry Lambert
Joshua Lee wrote: Mozilla has an option to enable http pipelining as a performance option. I regularly used this, maybe I shouldn't? It should fallback. Considering that there's a warning concerning it's use with some servers maybe it doesn't... Luckily it's not on by default.

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-21 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: THat's not the issue. The issue is that some servers claim to be 1.1 servers, but do not implement pipelining. Older Apache servers fall into this category. I have been using pipelining in Mozilla for many months now without encountering a single,

inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-20 Thread Patrick Thomas
Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still running a vulnerable apache ? I ask because I see in one of the chunking exploits that: * Remote OpenBSD/Apache exploit for the chunking

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:17:41PM -0700, Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still running a vulnerable apache ? Surely it's easier to just upgrade the apache

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-20 Thread Frank Mayhar
Kris Kennaway wrote: Surely it's easier to just upgrade the apache port, instead of recompiling your kernel and the entire OS. Not always. (I'm running an old version of Covalent Raven SSL and I'm loathe to upgrade. If it works, don't fix it and there are only so many hours in a day.) --

Re: inuring FreeBSD to the apache bug without upgrading apache ?

2002-06-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Patrick Thomas wrote: Is it possible to patch/recompile FreeBSD 4.5 in such a way that your system is no longer vulnerable to the chunking attack, even if you are still running a vulnerable apache ? Not FreeBSD, but it's possible to reconfigure Apache. The way you would deal with this would