Re: The cost of a source based package system

2011-09-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, how did you manage to get an answer from Google that fast? http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gK2BT8m9EhMCL0gI-yqyut3UOz-A?docId=CNG.8da7524161341a630734bbb6cf9ce6e4.231 Erich On Thursday 08 September 2011 11:53:28 Stefan Schaeckeler wrote: Hi all, please don't take this

Re: The cost of a source based package system

2011-09-08 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/07/11 23:26, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Thursday 08 September 2011 11:53:28 Stefan Schaeckeler wrote: Hi all, please don't take this posting too serious. I was just curious ... your are talking about a serious problem. Using

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: I want machines, tools, to do as *I* say not the other way round, whether it's good for me or not. If I wanted nannying and interference, I'd install Ubuntu. No, you'd use a managed installation. Nobody stands there

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). Wrong. A `poor' port is is still a port else it would be

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 03:01:09AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the

Re: The cost of a source based package system

2011-09-08 Thread Stefan Schaeckeler
Hi there, On Thursday 08 September 2011 11:53:28 Stefan Schaeckeler wrote: Hi all, please don't take this posting too serious. I was just curious ... your are talking about a serious problem. Absolutely. Billions are spend on Green Computing and even PhD theses are written on it.

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:54:36PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: Changing to a hypothetical example, why would an Apache vulnerability in mod_rewrite in the least bit bother a person who doesn't have the module enabled, which I believe is the

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). Highly debatable.

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 Sep 2011 02:29, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:45:51 -0700 Message-id: 4e67f41f.70...@freebsd.org Doug Barton wrote: On 9/7/2011 10:02 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Doug

Re: The cost of a source based package system

2011-09-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thursday 08 September 2011 11:53:28 Stefan Schaeckeler wrote: Hi all, please don't take this posting too serious. I was just curious ... your are talking about a serious problem. Using source based ports is with almost 5 US cents 6.19 times (case 1 vs case 2a) or 1.73 times (case 1

Re: Bumping lightning to 1.0b5 so it works with Thunderbird 6.0.1

2011-09-08 Thread Florian Smeets
On 08.09.2011 02:16, Lawrence Stewart wrote: Hi Gecko team, The update from Thunderbird 6.0 to 6.0.1 has stopped the Lightning 1.0b5pre plugin from working - it claims to be incompatible with the new version of Thunderbird and can't be enabled. Lightning 1.0b5 seems to work fine with

ports/159978: apply simple upstream patch

2011-09-08 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Good day, can please anybody commit this: http://bugs.freebsd.org/159978 It's quite simple upstream patch (committed into not yet released 2.4.1 version), that solves OP problem. And maintainer timeout 2weeks+. Thanks. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives.

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:15:04PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: Non sequitur. The large number of ports that we support IS a feature. However, it's also a pretty big maintenance burden. Especially when you consider the number of those ports that are

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:20:27 +0100 Message-id: CADLo83-4Hbq+Ce5ADJvEQP7167wJt48C8aOfCW8RV=w96st...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: --00151774047892f1af04ac680e7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8

Re: FreeBSD ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-09-08 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
lini...@freebsd.org wrote on 07.09.2011 10:33: portname: databases/postgresql-plpython description:A module for using Python to write SQL functions maintainer: po...@freebsd.org deprecated because: (error in parsing Makefile) expiration date:2011-04-02 build

Re: FreeBSD ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-09-08 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on 08.09.2011 14:04: lini...@freebsd.org wrote on 07.09.2011 10:33: portname: databases/postgresql-plpython description: A module for using Python to write SQL functions maintainer: po...@freebsd.org deprecated because: (error in parsing Makefile) expiration date:

Re: Same concerns about our postgresql and plpython ports

2011-09-08 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Hi, for me it's too many time has passed for maintainer timeout. Please commit this anybody, until this port wasn't removed because it doesn't builds with some NOTEXISTENT PostgreSQL version. Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on 31.08.2011 11:11: So... two weeks are now passed and i still see no

FreeBSD Port: xbmc-10.1_2

2011-09-08 Thread emil vanherp
Hi XBMC seems to depend on sqlite3 (it won't compile without) but it's not on the dependencies list. kind regards Emil Vanherp ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any

Re: USERS/GROUPS in bsd.port.mk [was: FreeBSD Port: postfix-2.8.4, 1]

2011-09-08 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Miroslav Lachman wrote: Sahil Tandon wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 00:04:14 +0200, olli hauer wrote: No, you don't hit the limitation. It seems you really found a bug in the Framework! From the Framework code in bsd.port.mk existing groups should honored. Along those lines, what about using

Re: FreeBSD Port: xbmc-10.1_2

2011-09-08 Thread Bernhard Froehlich
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:02:56 +0200, emil vanherp wrote: Hi XBMC seems to depend on sqlite3 (it won't compile without) but it's not on the dependencies list. Don't know why you think it's missing but that's plain wrong. It's there at the bottom of the LIB_DEPENDS.

Re: portmanager -u -l -- php version not updated

2011-09-08 Thread Norman Khine
ok i had to restart the fast-cgi demon # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/php.cgi.sh stop # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/php.cgi.sh start Starting php-cgi... spawn-fcgi: child spawned successfully: PID: 51122 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Norman Khine nor...@khine.net wrote: hello, i just did a #portmanager -u

portmanager -u -l -- php version not updated

2011-09-08 Thread Norman Khine
hello, i just did a #portmanager -u -l on my freebsd8.1 system, which runs nginx # php /usr/local/www/nginx-dist/test/php.php phpinfo() PHP Version = 5.3.8 System = FreeBSD arawak.local 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:36:49 UTC 2010

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Matt Burke
On 09/07/11 17:04, Chris Rees wrote: The /new/ policy of removing ports for much lighter offenses, such as having vulnerabilities, has already caused so many objections, that it is time to abolish it. I consider the argument here dead; portmgr is reviewing the policy as Erwin has said.

Re: FreeBSD ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-09-08 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 02:04:16PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: lini...@freebsd.org wrote on 07.09.2011 10:33: portname: databases/postgresql-plpython description:A module for using Python to write SQL functions maintainer: po...@freebsd.org deprecated

Re: FreeBSD ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-09-08 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Baptiste Daroussin wrote on 08.09.2011 17:13: On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 02:04:16PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: lini...@freebsd.org wrote on 07.09.2011 10:33: portname: databases/postgresql-plpython description:A module for using Python to write SQL functions maintainer:

Re: Bumping lightning to 1.0b5 so it works with Thunderbird 6.0.1

2011-09-08 Thread Lawrence Stewart
Hi Florian, On 09/08/11 17:51, Florian Smeets wrote: On 08.09.2011 02:16, Lawrence Stewart wrote: Hi Gecko team, The update from Thunderbird 6.0 to 6.0.1 has stopped the Lightning 1.0b5pre plugin from working - it claims to be incompatible with the new version of Thunderbird and can't be

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Mikhail T.
On 08.09.2011 04:42, Greg Byshenk wrote: For many people, what THERE IS A PORT OF IT actually -means- is that the user can go to ports and install a -working- version of the software, not merley that there is something called 'IT' somewhere in the ports tree that may or may not work. Some

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Michel Talon
Mikhail T. wrote: Having to deal with RedHat's yum at work, I got to say, I'd rather be building from source, than installing from consistent packages, that somebody else built *to their* tastes. Fedora crap is a very bad example. The canonical example of a binary distribution which *works* is

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place).

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 07.09.2011 17:53, schrieb Mikhail T.: The policy -- up until fairly recently -- was to remove ports, that *fail to build* for a while. This made sense -- if the port remains unbuildable long enough, then, certainly, it is no longer in use. The /new/ policy of removing ports for much

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: Changing to a hypothetical example, why would an Apache vulnerability in mod_rewrite in the least bit bother a person who doesn't have the module enabled, which I believe is the standard configuration? Would you prefer Apache be deleted from ports if

Re: USERS/GROUPS in bsd.port.mk [was: FreeBSD Port: postfix-2.8.4, 1]

2011-09-08 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Miroslav Lachman 000.f...@quip.cz wrote: Miroslav Lachman wrote: Sahil Tandon wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 00:04:14 +0200, olli hauer wrote: No, you don't hit the limitation. It seems you really found a bug in the Framework! From the Framework code in

Re: USERS/GROUPS in bsd.port.mk [was: FreeBSD Port: postfix-2.8.4, 1]

2011-09-08 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 01:19:26PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Miroslav Lachman 000.f...@quip.cz wrote: Miroslav Lachman wrote: Sahil Tandon wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 00:04:14 +0200, olli hauer wrote: No, you don't hit the limitation. It seems you really

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Wait -- what? Why should something not be ported if it's not popular? -- Chad Perrin [

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: Am 07.09.2011 17:53, schrieb Mikhail T.: The policy -- up until fairly recently -- was to remove ports, that *fail to build* for a while. This made sense -- if the port remains unbuildable long enough, then, certainly, it is no longer in use. The /new/ policy