Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-15 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Phillip N. thusly... Im not really reading this threads.. But.. has this something to do with this? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-April/039802.html O' don't scare me. Yet Again. Naughty boy. It was quite near the end I thought

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-13 Thread Ade Lovett
On Dec 13, 2007, at 02:32 , David Southwell wrote: I suspect antagonistic responsesfrom some people are more about wounded pride (i.e - astonishment why should anyone propose to improve on the procedures, systems and engineering to which they contributed in the past!) You suspect wrong.

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-13 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Ade Lovett wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 02:32 , David Southwell wrote: I suspect antagonistic responsesfrom some people are more about wounded pride (i.e - astonishment why should anyone propose to improve on the procedures, systems and engineering to which they contributed in the past!) You

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-13 Thread Robert Huff
Stephen Montgomery-Smith writes: I understand that you might have a private definition of ports@ that it should only discuss the current system. But if this is all you come to this group for, just press the delete key when it is not something you are personally interested in. I

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-13 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ade Lovett wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 02:32 , David Southwell wrote: I suspect antagonistic responsesfrom some people are more about wounded pride (i.e - astonishment why should anyone propose to improve on the procedures, systems and engineering

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-13 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Huff wrote: Stephen Montgomery-Smith writes: I understand that you might have a private definition of ports@ that it should only discuss the current system. But if this is all you come to this group for, just press the delete key when it

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-13 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ade Lovett wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 02:32 , David Southwell wrote: I suspect antagonistic responsesfrom some people are more about wounded pride (i.e - astonishment why should anyone

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ade Lovett wrote: [admin note: cut down on ridiculous crossposting] On Dec 11, 2007, at 21:37 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Number of responses: roughly 30 I just wanted to pick up on this particular number. Your survey went to (at least)

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Ade Lovett
On Dec 12, 2007, at 01:38 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: First of all excuse my language but I have about had it with certain people... Presumably that would be me. where the *HELL* do you get the idea that I am attempting to get other people to do the heavy lifting or have you not learned a

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 04:38:39AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have used FreeBSD since '95 and except for jerks like you have really enjoyed it. Are you quite sure it would be there to enjoy if not for jerks like us? :) ___

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 04:38:39 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..while I still want to gather more data to pin down the exact requirements Don't you get it? You're not GATHERING DATA. You're eliciting responses from a TINY percentage of the people who use

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Phillip N.
Im not really reading this threads.. But.. has this something to do with this? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-April/039802.html :P -- Phillip N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ade Lovett wrote: On Dec 12, 2007, at 01:38 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: First of all excuse my language but I have about had it with certain people... Presumably that would be me. While your the main one your not the only one. where the *HELL*

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 04:38:39 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..while I still want to gather more data to pin down the exact requirements Don't you get it? You're not GATHERING DATA. You're eliciting responses

Re: results of ports re-engineering survey

2007-12-12 Thread Chuck Robey
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 *PLEASE ONLY REPLY TO ME OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Omigod!! For Gods sake, could you PLEASE not have folks reply to the list! We have been sufficiently bombarded with this already. If you must have the replies public, then