Re: Easy switch to xorg 7.2?

2007-08-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Richard Tobin wrote: > I just did a 6.2-RELEASE install, only to find when I tried to install > some packages from stable that everything has switched to Xorg 7.2. > Can I just pkg_delete all the old xorg* packages and then pkg_add the > new ones? Is "pkg_add -r xorg" all I need? > > -- Richard >

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 01:26:58AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > > Hope I did. It's not all that hard to give a to-the-point and honest answer. I hope you helped, too. Your comments preceding this were to the point, well considered, and informative. At least, I think so. However . . . > >

Re: Easy switch to xorg 7.2?

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson
Richard Tobin wrote: I just did a 6.2-RELEASE install, only to find when I tried to install some packages from stable that everything has switched to Xorg 7.2. Can I just pkg_delete all the old xorg* packages and then pkg_add the new ones? Is "pkg_add -r xorg" all I need? -- Richard Hi Richar

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Danny Pansters wrote: (...) Hope I did. It's not all that hard to give a to-the-point and honest answer. Now here's some food for thought for all the "advocates" who found it necessary to answer: It's apparently harder to shut your fat fucking face if you don't have anything useful to cont

Re: NTFS-3G not mounting the partition during boot

2007-08-10 Thread Novembre
On 8/8/07, Novembre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/7/07, Rakhesh Sasidharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Starting ntfsmount. > > > /etc/rc: DEBUG: run_rc_command: _doit: > > /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 > > > /mnt/w > > > indows > > > fuse: failed to exec mount program: N

Re: Resolution problem with i810 and Xorg 7.2

2007-08-10 Thread Ghirai
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:26:46 -0500 (CDT) "Doug Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a Compaq nx7400 running on 6.2-STABLE with Xorg 7.2. Despite > my best efforts, I'm unable to get the screen into 1680x1050 > resolution. I have followed the instructions in the handbook but

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Danny Pansters
On Thursday 09 August 2007 06:22:26 Latitude wrote: > I'm interested in changing over to FreeBSD from Windows, but I'll have > to say, you guys don't really present a forceful argument to Windows Well, it's a very different thing. But it can do mostly the same tasks though (and many more). > use

Re: Can not make a 6.2 ISO image

2007-08-10 Thread doug
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Sergio Lenzi wrote: The problem is in the rescue directory of the CD/DVD the directory have hard links that when copied with tar, transforms in full files without the links I think the problem is in libarchive.. as the old 5.4 FreeBSD does copy the rescue as expected.

Re: Problem with dump over SSH: Operation timed out

2007-08-10 Thread Kenny Dail
> Thank you for those suggestions, it's appreciated. Although I get the same > results with setting those values both on the server and on the client. SCP > starts full speed, but at 20% of the 200 MB file it starts to stall. All ICMP > traffic was open on both firewalls at that time. I had som

Easy switch to xorg 7.2?

2007-08-10 Thread Richard Tobin
I just did a 6.2-RELEASE install, only to find when I tried to install some packages from stable that everything has switched to Xorg 7.2. Can I just pkg_delete all the old xorg* packages and then pkg_add the new ones? Is "pkg_add -r xorg" all I need? -- Richard _

Re: Can not make a 6.2 ISO image

2007-08-10 Thread Sergio Lenzi
The problem is in the rescue directory of the CD/DVD the directory have hard links that when copied with tar, transforms in full files without the links I think the problem is in libarchive.. as the old 5.4 FreeBSD does copy the rescue as expected a small script fix the rescue links is: as

Re: Samba Install on BSD 5.4

2007-08-10 Thread Derek Ragona
At 04:46 PM 8/10/2007, Dixit, Viraj wrote: Folks, I have downloaded the latest Samba file from samba site. I have unzipped the file and have configured it as requested. Anyone out there installed Samba on Free BSD 5.4. Please indicate any problem that I will encounter and any issues with Samba.

Re: Remove ports dependencies

2007-08-10 Thread Robert Huff
Christopher Key writes: > I do have another query though; pkg_cutleaves is supposed to show > you a list of of packages upon which nothing depends. In theory > this means that there should be nothing in this list beyond the > ports I've explicitly installed. This theory is incorrect

Re: Remove ports dependencies

2007-08-10 Thread Christopher Key
Ruben de Groot wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 12:53:39PM +0100, Christopher Key typed: Hello, I recently tried to install vim from the ports collections, however I didn't do it with 'WITHOUT_X11', and accordingly it went off and installed X + presumably a whole load of dependencies which I r

Samba Install on BSD 5.4

2007-08-10 Thread Dixit, Viraj
Folks, I have downloaded the latest Samba file from samba site. I have unzipped the file and have configured it as requested. Anyone out there installed Samba on Free BSD 5.4. Please indicate any problem that I will encounter and any issues with Samba. Thanks, VJ __

Re: Matrox Video Card

2007-08-10 Thread Robert Huff
Manolis Kiagias writes: > > I tried the Xorg web page but I couldn't confirm if the *Matrox > > G550 32MB AGP (G55+MDHA32DB) *is specifically compatible with > > FreeBSD 6.1. > > Try man mga. This is the generic matrox driver for Xorg. In my xorg 7.2 > the model G550 is mentioned. I don'

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 11:50:10AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>>It's already been mentioned, but I would strongly recommend PCBSD for > >>>the windows convert. Having PCBSD allows me to easily setup friends > >> > >>i would rather recomend not moving away from windows. > > > >Why? > > becau

Re: Matrox Video Card

2007-08-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Oscar Chavarria wrote: > I tried the Xorg web page but I couldn't confirm if the *Matrox G550 32MB > AGP (G55+MDHA32DB) *is specifically compatible with FreeBSD 6.1. > > Where do I obtain information for this specific card drivers' compatibility? > > > >

Re: Resolution problem with i810 and Xorg 7.2

2007-08-10 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Friday 10 August 2007 14:19:00 Doug Poland wrote: > nope im 99% sure thats where your solution will lie. http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ cheers, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mail

Re: ldap server and client conflicts, with Postfix and Courier in the mix

2007-08-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Pollywog wrote: I want to install the LDAP server but it complains that it conflicts with LDAP client: ===> openldap-server-2.3.37 conflicts with installed package(s): openldap-client-2.3.37 However, attempting to remove the client to make room for the server results in another complai

Proliant 8500

2007-08-10 Thread Cyrus
I have installed freebsd 6.2 stable on a proliant 8500 via ftp because the ida driver steals the number from the cdrom driver (as i have read). after installation is there a way to regain controll of my cdrom with out disabling my raid controller? Cyrus

Overwritten ldconfig default search path

2007-08-10 Thread Bahman M.
Hi all, I issued the following command which as you may guess has overwritten ldconfig default search path. % sudo ldconfig -i /etc/ld.so.conf That ld.so.conf contained a few directories which I wanted to include in the search path. Now as a result the system has stopped functioning. Are there any

ldap server and client conflicts, with Postfix and Courier in the mix

2007-08-10 Thread Pollywog
I want to install the LDAP server but it complains that it conflicts with LDAP client: ===> openldap-server-2.3.37 conflicts with installed package(s): openldap-client-2.3.37 However, attempting to remove the client to make room for the server results in another complaint: pkg_delete: p

Need clarification on file system parameters (using newfs).

2007-08-10 Thread Maxim Khitrov
Hello, I'm installing FreeBSD 7.0 (200606 snapshot) on my laptop just to play around with it out, and I wanted to learn a little bit more about the way FreeBSD organizes the available disk space. Let me tell you what I think I understand about it, and I ask that you please correct me if something

Re: -current snapshot as amd64 live CD/DVD

2007-08-10 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:07:45 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > does such thing exist? You can make it yourself with sysutils/freesbie. Please read FreeSBIE documentation, start with e.g. http://wiki.freesbie.org/iso_creation Nikola Lečić ___

Matrox Video Card

2007-08-10 Thread Oscar Chavarria
I tried the Xorg web page but I couldn't confirm if the *Matrox G550 32MB AGP (G55+MDHA32DB) *is specifically compatible with FreeBSD 6.1. Where do I obtain information for this specific card drivers' compatibility? ---

Re: Resolution problem with i810 and Xorg 7.2

2007-08-10 Thread Doug Poland
On Fri, August 10, 2007 14:08, Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Friday 10 August 2007 12:26:46 Doug Poland wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've got a Compaq nx7400 running on 6.2-STABLE with Xorg 7.2. >> Despite my best efforts, I'm unable to get the screen into >> 1680x1050 resolution. I have followed the inst

Re: Resolution problem with i810 and Xorg 7.2

2007-08-10 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Friday 10 August 2007 12:26:46 Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a Compaq nx7400 running on 6.2-STABLE with Xorg 7.2. Despite > my best efforts, I'm unable to get the screen into 1680x1050 > resolution. I have followed the instructions in the handbook but the > issue appears to be getti

Can not make a 6.2 ISO image

2007-08-10 Thread doug
My goal was to make an cdrom that I could use with a serial console. I downloaded an iso image, burned a cdrom and used that cd to make a file tree with: tar -cf - -C /mnt/ . | tar -xpf - -C 6.2-RELEASE/ The du command shows essentially the same size for the cdrom and the file tree: 102

Resolution problem with i810 and Xorg 7.2

2007-08-10 Thread Doug Poland
Hello, I've got a Compaq nx7400 running on 6.2-STABLE with Xorg 7.2. Despite my best efforts, I'm unable to get the screen into 1680x1050 resolution. I have followed the instructions in the handbook but the issue appears to be getting /dev/agpgart recognized. Here's some relevant data... host%

Re: Problem with dump over SSH: Operation timed out

2007-08-10 Thread Bram Schoenmakers
Op vrijdag 10 augustus 2007, schreef Nikos Vassiliadis: Hi, Some more info: > But, if a router in the path > is filtering all ICMP traffic then the problem will remain. No most probably not. I live a few 100m from the office, having the same type of internet connection and the same provider. T

Re: anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Craig Boston
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 12:27:49PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > on FreeBSD 7.0 > > i mean is it stable enough to be used on FreeBSD/amd64 It depends what you mean by "real". I'm using it for everything (including root) on several systems: 1 amd64 machine in a desktop role

FreeBSD 6 and 'mailman' Issues

2007-08-10 Thread Tim Daneliuk
I've installed mailman from both the current ports and packages and noted a common problem. It seems that after a clean install, sometime later, permissions are getting changed on its directory tree. In going through the various /etc/periodic entries, I don't see where this is getting done. Ther

Re: reconfigure a port after install

2007-08-10 Thread Miguel
Nikola Lecic escribió: On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:57:46 -0600 Miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, i have installed postfix + sasl2 support, so far so good but now i want to enable mysql auth and sasl2 was not compiled with mysql support, i tried desinstalling it but it claims postfix depends o

Re: Problem with dump over SSH: Operation timed out

2007-08-10 Thread Bram Schoenmakers
Op vrijdag 10 augustus 2007, schreef u: Hi, > This really looks like a broken PMTU discovery. > > Is this still the case? After the firewall changes you did? > Things may be different now. But, if a router in the path > is filtering all ICMP traffic then the problem will remain. > > Try this on b

Re: compiling -current

2007-08-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 07:30:03PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i did cvs -z9 checkout and started buildworld > i have CPUTYPE?=pentium3 in /etc/make.conf and things are compiled that > way: > > cc -fpic -DPIC -O1 -pipe -march=pentium3 > > > > > why -O1? not O2 gcc optimizer bugs, see the

Re: OT:: anybody on-list use "PC-BSD"? or "bSD-PC"?

2007-08-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:24:00PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > My experience with PC-BSD was that it was just different enough to > break alot of FreeBSD's documentation, and they don't have enough of > their own. I was a newbie, of course, but I went with vanilla FreeBSD > because of the handboo

compiling -current

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i did cvs -z9 checkout and started buildworld i have CPUTYPE?=pentium3 in /etc/make.conf and things are compiled that way: cc -fpic -DPIC -O1 -pipe -march=pentium3 why -O1? not O2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd

"The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda

2007-08-10 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inev

How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2007-08-10 Thread Greg Lehey
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that a

Re: anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Ankerstål
Wojciech Puchar wrote: thanks for quick answers. i will definitely take a risk after reading all of this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAI

Re: anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Ankerstål
Wojciech Puchar wrote: thanks for quick answers. i will definitely take a risk after reading all of this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAI

Re: Utility to change a byte in a binary file?

2007-08-10 Thread Rajarajan Rajamani
On 8/10/07, Erik Osterholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:02:54PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 08:25:17PM +, V.I.Victor wrote: > > > > > > > > It sure seems that this should be simple, but my searches have only > > > turned up inter-active

Re: Utility to change a byte in a binary file?

2007-08-10 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:02:54PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 08:25:17PM +, V.I.Victor wrote: > > > > > It sure seems that this should be simple, but my searches have only > > turned up inter-active hex/disk editors. I'm probably "asking" wrong. > > > > I have

Re: How do I make install clean a port in the background

2007-08-10 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 10 August 2007 01:29:02 Valentin Bud wrote: > > A good ideea would be to build screen static. In case you > update your system, it is possible that the libraries on which screen > depends might be deleted. To do so > # make CONFIGURE_ENV=LDFLAGS="-static" build > # make install > that

Re: anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
thanks for quick answers. i will definitely take a risk after reading all of this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

-current snapshot as amd64 live CD/DVD

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
does such thing exist? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Bart Silverstrim
Rolf G Nielsen wrote: Reid Linnemann wrote: My ten year old niece has been brainwashed by the GUI quagmire. She saw my FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an "old" computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure o

Re: attaching a terminal to 'join' another?

2007-08-10 Thread michi
The next-best is to use the /usr/sbin/watch command to attach to an existing tty and see its screen output. You'll need to rebuild your kenel and add the "snp" device (or load it as a module). not necessariliy build new kernel sudo kldload snp will do also __

DUP! Pings with if_lagg configuration.

2007-08-10 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Hi there. I'm trying to set up a link between a two mini FreeBSD servers of mine using if_lagg in loadbalance mode and two NIC cards in each box. They are also on the same switch. Both machines are the latest 6-stable. After following some simple instructions in the man page, each machine is conf

Re: anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Vince
I've been using it just for the /usr/ports on my i386 laptop for a while (dual core T2300 @ 1.66GHz with 1 gig Ram:) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])$sudo zpool history tank History for 'tank': 2007-04-11.10:45:56 zpool create tank ad0s4a 2007-04-11.10:46:35 zfs create tank/ports 2007-04-11.10:47:06 zfs set c

Re: Remove ports dependencies

2007-08-10 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 12:53:39PM +0100, Christopher Key typed: > Hello, > > I recently tried to install vim from the ports collections, however I > didn't do it with 'WITHOUT_X11', and accordingly it went off and > installed X + presumably a whole load of dependencies which I really > don't want

Re: cheap (supported) wifi card

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson
Don Hinton wrote: Could someone recommend a good (and cheap) one that's includes a/b/g*/n and is supported, either natively or via ndis? Hi Don, I can heartily recommend any card based on the TNET1130 chipset. They work very well with ndisgen. Examples include the Add-on Tech GWP-100 and the

Remove ports dependencies

2007-08-10 Thread Christopher Key
Hello, I recently tried to install vim from the ports collections, however I didn't do it with 'WITHOUT_X11', and accordingly it went off and installed X + presumably a whole load of dependencies which I really don't want. Is there any way to get a list of exactly what it added so that I can go a

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson
Hi Wojciech, Wojciech Puchar wrote: and about DOS apps - few small companies are still using our 18-year old (so really mature ;) DOS apps. when asked if they like me to write new unix version (+lots of adventages here, remote sessions etc.) then don't. they just don't like to pay anymore becau

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Adam J Richardson
Hi Gerard, Gerard wrote: I was not aware of any place where they gave computers away. In the UK we call them "skips". Not sure what the rest of the world calls them. [Large metal junk containers placed at the back of large buildings near the other bins. They're usually hired rather than owne

Re: How do I make install clean a port in the background

2007-08-10 Thread Robert Huff
Wojciech Puchar writes: > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 > > make install clean & > > > > it returns the pid but then compiles in the foreground > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > >/dev/null The /process/ is running in the background. The /output/ - stdout and stderr, fil

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
idea how, and I was expecting a nice "user-friendly" GUI, like Windoze, but without the constant crashes. that's what most people expect. and thats why i say: Windows it the most windows compatible system available. don't change to other. In 1999 I purchased "The complete FreeBSD, 3rd edit

Re: anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Friday 10 August 2007 13:27, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > on FreeBSD 7.0 > > i mean is it stable enough to be used on FreeBSD/amd64 See the relative thread. I recall that amd64 and at least 1GB of RAM were recommended. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-June/073972.html Nikos

Re: none of wpa_passphrase

2007-08-10 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Eitarou Kamo wrote: > I have posted this mail to mobile list. Just to make sure, I'll forward > to this list too. > > Eitarou > > Eitarou Kamo wrote: > >> Hi, >> I used wpa _supplicant and was aware none of wpa _passphrase. >> My machine is 6.2 REREASE. Does anyone have it or way to making i

Re[2]: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Gerard
On August 10, 2007 at 03:47AM Wojciech Puchar wrote: > well here in poland people do see a difference, because computer has to be > bought, while windoze can be pirated. I was not aware of any place where they gave computers away. > in my 320 user network less than ten bought windoze, over 30

anyone using ZFS for real?

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
on FreeBSD 7.0 i mean is it stable enough to be used on FreeBSD/amd64 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Windows style computing (was Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
On Gdańsk technical university there was a man about 50 years teaching people unix (mostly). what he talked very often: --- DO NOT use windows EVER. Not because it's slow, not because it crashes, and not because it can't do much. Not because of security too. But because it's teaching BAD HAB

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It's already been mentioned, but I would strongly recommend PCBSD for the windows convert. Having PCBSD allows me to easily setup friends i would rather recomend not moving away from windows. Why? because only windows is truly windows like. there is nothing like "better windows" while ther

Re: X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am not following this. If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI, how would you define He probably equates a desktop environment (such as KDE/Gnome/etc.) to a GUI. most people exactly equates that and i stated i that such defined GUI is completely useless and actually takes over time and resources

Re: X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Freitag 10 August 2007 10:57:38 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text > > and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, > > there are plenty of nice other wm's good for t

Re: Problem with dump over SSH: Operation timed out

2007-08-10 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Bram Schoenmakers wrote: If you can write (and compress if short of disk space) the dump locally and try an scp to your remote host as Nikos is suggesting, that will narrow down the problem a bit. Any other large file will do: doesn't have to be a dump. As I wrote in my initial mail:

X + WM != GUI? (Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI")

2007-08-10 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't use GUI. it takes a lot and gives nothing. i use both text > and graphic (X) based apps and no gui. i use fvwm2 with my config, > there are plenty of nice other wm's good for that. I am not following this. If (X.org + some WM) is not a GUI, ho

Re: w3 web browser on freebsd v6.2-R

2007-08-10 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:04:07 +1000 jonathan michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [] > > > > > but i checked for "gettext" in teh index-6 and in my version, > > > either jul 2006 or jan 2007 ( freebsd toolkit or jan 2007 ), is > > > a fw revisions earlier than the right one. > > > > fair enou

Re: w3 web browser on freebsd v6.2-R

2007-08-10 Thread jonathan michaels
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 04:18:26PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:31:58 +1000 > jonathan michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 01:40:55PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:27:41 +1000 > > > jonathan michaels <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 09:37:19AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >It's already been mentioned, but I would strongly recommend PCBSD for > >the windows convert. Having PCBSD allows me to easily setup friends > > i would rather recomend not moving away from windows. Why? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad

Re: Convince me

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
To be honest I don't think FreeBSD is ready for this yet. It's getting there, when it will be, i will switch to other unix flavour ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe

Re: OT:: anybody on-list use "PC-BSD"? or "bSD-PC"?

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
close. Has anybody on this list used the PC version of BSD? What about a "desktop-BSD"?? tested both when i needed some humour :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi

Re: Problem with dump over SSH: Operation timed out

2007-08-10 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 09 August 2007 19:51, Bram Schoenmakers wrote: > Op donderdag 09 augustus 2007, schreef Alex Zbyslaw: > > Hello, > > > Bram Schoenmakers wrote: > > ># /sbin/dump -0uan -L -h 0 -f - / | /usr/bin/bzip2 | /usr/bin/ssh > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ > > >dd of=/backup/webserver/root.0.bz2

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
friendly windows clone, you might look into "PC-BSD". It comes out of the box ready for Windows converts. stop telling about them "friendly". most of thieves are friendly too, just after some time you see money is missing ___ freebsd-questions@freebs

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I don't really think of entirely unnecessary (for most purposes) server software as "standard utilities". Speaking only for myself, I *have* tried MacOS X (and used it in a professional capacity), and I too find it to be "very little unix" with "lots of bulky overhead". I also find it to be cl

RE: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
to the task. In general, I would say that FreeBSD is not the appropriate choice for a "user" who is not at least somewhat interested in the how's and why's of the OS. FreeBSD is excellent for average user if accessed through terminal (or X terminal) and configured by system administrator. or

Re: How do I make install clean a port in the background

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 make install clean & it returns the pid but then compiles in the foreground What am I doing wrong? /dev/null ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
User-friendliness is obviously subjective. Some people consider a my definition is that user friendly system does what i want, does it right and quickly. simply - it's my slave. not my master. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
sincerely assume that. well here in poland people do see a difference, because computer has to be bought, while windoze can be pirated. in my 320 user network less than ten bought windoze, over 300 uses pirated one, 10 uses my X-terminals. and it's good for microsoft. if police in poland

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Sorry, I agree with you, s/GUI/graphic based/ in my post. I've just Yes - graphics based. I use graphics based programs like gimp, links -g, opera, xv & xzgv, gv and xdvi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mai

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I still do maintain a Windows 2000 machine for my graphics workstation, and to run my vintage DOS apps. qemu works well. and about DOS apps - few small companies are still using our 18-year old (so really mature ;) DOS apps. when asked if they like me to write new unix version (+lots of adve

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Start with DesktopBSD 1.6 since it's closer to FreeBSD than PC-BSD if you need to learn FreeBSD more. both of them should win a similar message at www.freebsd.org "We are not supporting both DesktopBSD and PC-BSD. that's not out products, just loosely based on FreeBSD. Please DO NOT judge Free

Re: Convince me, please! - too much about "GUI"

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD 6-STABLE console on my amd64 3000+ and wanted to know why i was using such an "old" computer. She had the visual aspect of the user interface ingrained as a measure of the capabilities of the machine. Granted, it could be only because she's ten, but I think we'd find a lot of people thin

Re: Convince me, please!

2007-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It's already been mentioned, but I would strongly recommend PCBSD for the windows convert. Having PCBSD allows me to easily setup friends i would rather recomend not moving away from windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lis

Re: Problem with dump over SSH: Operation timed out

2007-08-10 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 09 August 2007 17:39, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >Keep in mind that dump(8) uses UFS2 snapshots. I don't know > >the current status, but in the past, snapshots were not working > >that good. > > This statement is far too general and IMHO does a disservice to those