Re: text editor

2012-08-29 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ dte...@freebsd.org wrote on Tue 28.Aug'12 at 16:42:06 -0700 ] > > -Original Message- > > From: Robin, Michael [mailto:ro...@chapman.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:42 PM > > To: 'dte...@freebsd.org'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > &

Re: text editor

2012-08-29 Thread Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu
Programmer Analyst > > > > -Original Message- > From: Devin Teske [mailto:devin.te...@fisglobal.com] On Behalf Of > dte...@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:25 PM > To: Robin, Michael; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: text editor > >

Re: text editor

2012-08-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
On getting vim text editor ("vi improved") for FreeBSD, you can either pkg_add or use the ports system, where you build from source code with a convenient setup. You can check http://www.freebsd.org/ and check the documentation, including the handbook and ports system. I've heard of Cygwin but

RE: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread dteske
> -Original Message- > From: Robin, Michael [mailto:ro...@chapman.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:42 PM > To: 'dte...@freebsd.org'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: text editor > > What is VIM? A _much_ improved version of "vi&quo

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Jerry Dunham
On 28 Aug 2012 at 22:41, Robin, Michael wrote: > What is VIM? Where could it be downloaded? > What is CLI? I am looking for GUI/command prompt text editor for Windows 7/8. > The notepad plus program lacks start/end block setting option even > though it have a lot of hot keys. My top priority is

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
gust 28, 2012 3:25 PM > To: Robin, Michael; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: text editor > > > -Original Message- > > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robin, Michael > > Se

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:41:52 +, Robin, Michael wrote: > What is VIM? VI = VI Improved, based on vi-like editor behaviour, which is often considered one of the MAIN editor environments among programmers. > Where could it be downloaded? You don't manually download things on FreeBSD. You ins

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:09:39 +, Robin, Michael wrote: > Which text editor program will run 64-bit operating system with > following features: > * Support 100 percent of hot keys Depends also on the terminal emulator used and if it's configured properly. Editors like the one belonging to the Mi

RE: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Robin, Michael
...@fisglobal.com] On Behalf Of dte...@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:25 PM To: Robin, Michael; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor > -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf

RE: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread dteske
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robin, Michael > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:10 PM > To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' > Subject: text editor > > Which text editor program will run 64-bit o

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.03 18:35, Fbsd1 wrote: > Walt Pawley wrote: >> On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: >> >>> Been using ee and been happy. >>> >>> Now I have need for an editor with block commands. >> >> I'd suggest looking into aee. > > > That has what I am looking and so simple. Simple is in the eye of

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 06:40:14PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > > If anything, it's *you* who took things into the realm of politics by > > > pulling it out of the signature block w

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.03 20:40, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: >> ...here's an example... use vi(m). It solves ALL of the world's problems. > > I'm beginning to think nvi, in particular, might do so. For one thing, > it has a friendlier license (since w

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > If anything, it's *you* who took things into the realm of politics by > > pulling it out of the signature block where it belonged. > > Nicely put Chad. Thanks! > > ...here's an ex

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:04PM +0200, Richard T C Farnes wrote: >> To Matthias Apitz [ ...snip ...] >> Yours sincerely >> Richard Farnes > > I don't recall any "netiquette" rules about making your signature block > on-topic. Aren't you getting a bit

Re: Strying off topic, but Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:14:19AM -0400, ill...@gmail.com wrote: > > I don't know much, but the source tarball is slightly > over 7m. I suspect a lot of that is documentation. One thing Vim definitely has going for it is the breadth and depth of user documentation that comes with it. > > In

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:04PM +0200, Richard T C Farnes wrote: > To Matthias Apitz > I read with interest your contribution and those of others in text editor > usage. In this I do not have much to contribute as I am so far perfectly > happy with vi. > BUT I noticed your political comment a

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Fbsd1
Walt Pawley wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I'd suggest looking into aee. That has what I am looking and so simple. Thanks for your info. ___ freebsd-ques

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Richard T C Farnes
To Matthias Apitz I read with interest your contribution and those of others in text editor usage. In this I do not have much to contribute as I am so far perfectly happy with vi. BUT I noticed your political comment at the end of your contribution. I find this out of place as this questions si

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 03 2010 11:11, Murray Taylor wrote: > Hmm i remember a 'game' where you opened a file > then predicted what would happen if you just typed > your name at the command prompt... then of course you had to do it > to see if your guess was right... > > ie in vi > > "dwight" would delete a word

Strying off topic, but Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 31 May 2010 17:38, Chad Perrin wrote: > I meant to reply to the list, as a response to this, but accidentally > replied directly to Giorgos Keramidas. > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:45:07PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >> > Does Vim

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:04:06AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > > > Robert> Anybody else familiar with TECO? <*EVIL* grin> > > I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, > > wanting to do the same thing. > > Didn't

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread perryh
mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > Robert> Anybody else familiar with TECO? <*EVIL* grin> > I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, > wanting to do the same thing. Didn't Emacs start out as a reimplementation of TECO in Lisp? _

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Chad" == Chad Perrin writes: >> I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to >> do the same thing. Chad> How did that work out -- and what happened to it? It was used by my group at Tektronix from 1981 to 1983... not sure what happened to it after that. -- Ran

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:41:37PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Robert" == Robert Bonomi writes: > > Robert> Anybody else familiar with TECO? <*EVIL* grin> > > I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to > do the same thing. How did that work out --

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Robert" == Robert Bonomi writes: Robert> Anybody else familiar with TECO? <*EVIL* grin> I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to do the same thing. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.co

RE: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Murray Taylor
idence of absence" |0|0|0|Carl Sagan -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:31 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject:

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread John Levine
>Anybody else familiar with TECO? <*EVIL* grin> Oh, you mean that editor I used on a PDP-6? Sigh. Yes. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any m

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 02 2010 11:45, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. > > > > > > I remember when . . . > > > > > > I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucke

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jun 2 02:11:23 2010 > Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:06:31 -0700 > From: per...@pluto.rain.com > To: m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: text editor > > Matthew Seaman wrote: >

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jun 2 01:20:03 2010 > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:20:07 -0500 > From: Adam Vande More > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: text editor > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Tue, Ju

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:33:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > The ed(1) is *extremely* useful when it comes to editing text files on > the fly in shell scripts (i.e. without user interaction). This is why I don't consider ed the kind of abomination that edlin was; it exists within a stronge

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, June 02, 2010 a las 01:26:44PM +0200, Ruben de Groot escribió: > > The phrase "son of an edlin" has happily been retired in my vocabulary for > > some time. If you're not aware of it, ed(1) is as capable or more of > > causing pain as edlin was and it's still in the FreeBSD base

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:20:07AM -0500, Adam Vande More typed: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. > > > > I remember when . . . > > > > I

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman wrote: > Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, > back before the web was invented. Dept of (in)famous last words: There is no reason for anyone to have a computer in their home. -- Gordon Bell, founder of DEC No one will ever need more than 640K. -- Bill

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. > > I remember when . . . > > I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucked*. > > . . .

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . . I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucked*. . . . not counting this nifty editor I called "pencil". -- Chad Perrin

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 05:23:55PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:08:42 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the "killer feature"

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Walt Pawley
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: > Been using ee and been happy. > > Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I'd suggest looking into aee. -- Walter M. Pawley Wump Research & Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975 _

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chip Camden
I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. On Jun 01 2010 07:09, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the > > web was invented. > > No -- those are th

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:08:42 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately, the "killer feature" that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi > > > is its support for multiple le

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the > web was invented. No -- those are the "even better old days". -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpsisp2Mnyyg.pg

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the "killer feature" that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi > > is its support for multiple levels of undo. > > Have you ever tried "u" (undo command) follo

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > Unfortunately, the "killer feature" that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi > is its support for multiple levels of undo. Have you ever tried "u" (undo command) followed by "." (repeat last command)? ;-) -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Resear

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/05/2010 21:31:15, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:48:22PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi >> wrote: >>> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Vim is much smaller than Emacs but

RE: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Murray Taylor
reebsd.org Subject: Re: text editor On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: >> >> keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 ro

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread doug
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: SNIP alot of text not related to original posted question. Can we get back on subject. I have worked many years with ispf so decided to check out "THE" I installed pkg_add -r the entering "the" on the command line produces something that is far removed from i

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Fbsd1
SNIP alot of text not related to original posted question. Can we get back on subject. I have worked many years with ispf so decided to check out "THE" I installed pkg_add -r the entering "the" on the command line produces something that is far removed from ispf/pdf. manpage and website docume

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
I meant to reply to the list, as a response to this, but accidentally replied directly to Giorgos Keramidas. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:45:07PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > Does Vim install more than the binary? I've got this: > > >

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:36:53AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > I can't get at my FBSD box right now to check vim itself, but on another box, > 'nvi' (which is described as a "bug-for-bug compatible replacement for the > original Fourth Berkeley Software Distribution (4BSD) vi", has an executa

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:48:22PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi > wrote: > >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: > >> > >> keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* > >>

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: >> >> keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 5757731 1 =CE=91=CF=80=CF=81 17:11 >> vim-lite-7

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >> Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: >> >> keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 5757731 1 Απρ 17:11 vim-lite-7.2.344.tbz > > Does Vim install more than the binary?

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon May 31 00:10:28 2010 > From: Giorgos Keramidas > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 08:10:03 +0300 > Subject: Re: text editor > > On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > >On Sun,

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:10:03AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > >On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and > >> GNU Emacs have support for

RE: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Murray Taylor
yep ... its called vi place cursor at the line at hte top (or bottom) of the block press ma (put marker a on the line) move your cursor to the line at the other end (bottom ot top) of the block press d'a this will delete between the marked line and the cursor to move the block d

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and >> GNU Emacs have support for many features that ee(1) lacks. > > I'm not sure why you mentioned the siz

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and > GNU Emacs have support for many features that ee(1) lacks. I'm not sure why you mentioned the size of Vim here as if it's a remarkably large piece of softwa

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Lars Eighner
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I recommend joe which is one binary with several flavors including pico, emacs, and wordstar work-alikes as well as its own interface. The macro language is easy and powerful. -

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:36:31 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > Been using ee and been happy. > > Now I have need for an editor with block commands. > > Put dd on the first line of sequence number you want to start deleting > and dd on the last line of the block and hit enter and the block of > lines are delet

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Fbsd1
Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:36:31 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. Put dd on the first line of sequence number you want to start deleting and dd on the last line of the block and hit enter and the block of lines

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:36:31 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > Been using ee and been happy. > > Now I have need for an editor with block commands. > Put dd on the first line of sequence number you want to start deleting and dd > on the > last line of the block and hit enter and the block of lines are delet

Re: text editor

2010-05-29 Thread perryh
Fbsd1 wrote: > Been using ee and been happy. > Now I have need for an editor with block commands. ... > Is there any editors with a function like this? Either vi or emacs can do this general sort of thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list