Re: what software can support that UPS ?

2012-05-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
UPSCABLE usb UPSTYPE usb My BackUPS RS 500 works fine using those and a empty DEVICE field. how your UPS shows in dmesg? It is possible this is a new/redesigned model that Apcupsd does not handle correctly. (APC is famous for not having a consistant interface, even model

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Rod Person
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:36:46 -0800 mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: DDa == Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others

software raid

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Pazarena
Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. -- Jim Pazarena fqu...@paz.bz ___ freebsd-questions

Re: software raid

2012-02-07 Thread Modulok
Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. Yes! An example of setting up a 3 disk raidz might look like this: zpool create myfancyraid

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 09:06:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it. Obviously, other people

Re: software raid

2012-02-07 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012, Jim Pazarena wrote: Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. Sure, multiple ways, in fact: http://www.freebsd.org/doc

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-07 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello all. I have been reading in detail all your comments and advice. Thank you very much for your time. I have clear vision now of what do I need to do. I comment today to my students the help we were getting and all of them send you a BIG THANK YOU VERY MUCH comment. I hope that wieth

Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Jorge Biquez
running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread David Hughes
of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide real free excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread William Brown
Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). I think that python is a

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Chad Perrin
, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mxwrote: Would you do that with Python or something else? http://qt.nokia.com/ -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Rod Person
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person rodper...@rodperson.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Frank Shute
for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com To: Rod Person rodper...@rodperson.com Cc: Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx; FreeBSD Questions questi...@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Software Development using Freebsd

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Da Rock
trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
DDa == Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? DDa For most data and its proven ability to

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: DDa == Da Rock writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? DDa For most

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

2012-02-06 Thread Da Rock
On 02/07/12 14:06, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: DDa == Da Rock writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others have offered advice here, but

Media streaming software.

2011-09-11 Thread Graeme Dargie
Hi All Must be a year or so ago I posted looking for some advice on media streaming software that had a some specific requirements, mainly that it would transcode media on the fly to an MPEG2 stream so the dlna enabled TV could display the stream, I did get some good advice at the time

School Management Software (School ERP)

2011-07-08 Thread Marketing
and development. We also offer custom software programming services, from software development to support and enhancement.We have also our ready to use software like School Management, Document Management, Appointment Scheduler, Complaint Management Software, Farming ERP, Hospital Management Software

Re: versions of software

2011-06-17 Thread Allen
On 6/15/2011 11:20 AM, spidey wrote: Good morning. I have never used Freebsd. For that matter, I have not used Linux since the early 1990s (1993 to be exact) Anyway... BTW - I have your logo on my xwindows on the Linux box I am trying to setup. I think it's great. OK, so, you haven't

Re: versions of software

2011-06-17 Thread Julian H. Stacey
FreeBSD can also run a lot of Linux Applications just fine with the Linux_Enable=YES added to /etc/rc.conf and, not only that, I've heard /etc/defaults/rc.conf has it in lower case linux_enable=NO Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich

Re: versions of software

2011-06-17 Thread Allen
On 6/17/2011 7:58 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: FreeBSD can also run a lot of Linux Applications just fine with the Linux_Enable=YES added to /etc/rc.conf and, not only that, I've heard /etc/defaults/rc.conf has it in lower caselinux_enable=NO Yea I know, I'm still awake from yesterday,

Re: versions of software

2011-06-15 Thread spidey
Good morning. I have never used Freebsd. For that matter, I have not used Linux since the early 1990s (1993 to be exact) Anyway... BTW - I have your logo on my xwindows on the Linux box I am trying to setup. I think it's great. I have a need to use sendmail and DNS bind. Can someone tell

Re: versions of software

2011-06-15 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:20 AM, spidey wrote: Can someone tell me which versions of sendmail and DNS Bind are in the current Ubuntu 10?? Sure, but you're asking on the wrong mailing list: FreeBSD isn't Ubuntu. [ Reply-to: set appropriately. ] Regards, -- -Chuck

Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
Greetings! Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some software that only works on 32-bit. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote: I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit FreeBSD without even using a jail. Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system? This would get installed for example if you rebuild world/kernel following

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Nerius Landys
I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit FreeBSD without even using a jail. Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for example if you rebuild world/kernel following this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Mike Bregg
Yes, I believe this has been possible since 7.2. Mike On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Redd Vinylene reddvinyl...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings! Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some software that only works on 32-bit. Thanks

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Nerius Landys
I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit FreeBSD without even using a jail. Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system? This would get installed for example if you rebuild world/kernel following this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
Thanks a lot guys - I really appreciate it. Redd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread David DEMELIER
2010/12/6 Redd Vinylene reddvinyl...@gmail.com: Greetings! Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some software that only works on 32-bit. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Nerius Landys
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Redd Vinylene reddvinyl...@gmail.com wrote: How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much. Thanks! Use this as a start:

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Devin Teske
I wrote a utility (attached) to make the process really fast and easy: jail_build(8): Build FreeBSD jails from binary distributions Here's a simple howto: Step 1: Create a landing zone for your binary distribution (jail_build(8) looks in `/usr/repos' for binary distributions)... sudo mkdir

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Devin == Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com writes: Devin sudo cd /usr/repos This is pretty useless. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing,

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Devin Teske
On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Devin == Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com writes: Devin sudo cd /usr/repos This is pretty useless. :) I'd say it's _absolutely_ useless ^_^ Yes, indeed, the `sudo' should be omitted. -- Cheers, Devin Teske - CONTACT INFORMATION -

Software Update

2010-11-27 Thread Chris Brennan
My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is weather this pulls updates from packages or ports. P.s. I think I asked this before but it got lost in some other hubbub. So appologies if I did ask already. ___ freebsd-questions

Re: Software Update

2010-11-27 Thread RW
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:36:09 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is weather this pulls updates from packages or ports. There are a few applications, such as opera, that can phone home and check for newer versions

Re: Software Update

2010-11-27 Thread Steven Susbauer
On 11/27/2010 07:01 PM, RW wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:36:09 -0500 Chris Brennanxa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is weather this pulls updates from packages or ports. There are a few applications, such as opera, that can phone

Re: Software Update

2010-11-27 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Steven Susbauer ste...@too1337.com wrote: On 11/27/2010 07:01 PM, RW wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:36:09 -0500 Chris Brennanxa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is weather this pulls updates from

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann
On 11/18/10 03:12, Rob Farmer wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Thanks. I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment. By the way, the global

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-18 Thread Rob Farmer
2010/11/18 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Well, in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR? Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for something being listed there - if something isn't going to be used by very many ports, it

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann
On 11/18/10 13:52, Rob Farmer wrote: 2010/11/18 O. Hartmannohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Well, in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR? Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for something being listed there - if something isn't

porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread O. Hartmann
Hello. I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the top level Makefile of the port to use a specific build

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Farmer
2010/11/17 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Hello. I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the top

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread O. Hartmann
On 11/17/10 22:01, Rob Farmer wrote: 2010/11/17 O. Hartmannohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Hello. I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Farmer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Thanks. I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment. By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seems to

CPU testing software?

2010-11-09 Thread Richard Morse
, one with). I was wondering if there is software that will test the CPUs in a similar manner? Thanks, Ricky The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information

Re: CPU testing software?

2010-11-09 Thread Chris Brennan
doesn't for some reason), and it found no errors in two passes (one without ECC, one with). I was wondering if there is software that will test the CPUs in a similar manner? Thanks, Ricky The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-11 Thread Bruce Cran
On Friday 08 October 2010 01:12:55 Robert Bonomi wrote: he'll tell you: I need to review the copyright notices, licenses, and distribution restricions on _each_and_every_ item in that package. Go check _every_ file you intend to include, bring me a list showing 1) every file name 2)

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
vendor states that it applies to the entire tarball on their website. You should reasonably expect that each piece of software (ie directory) within contrib may be under a different license and needs to be reviewed. It´s not about what a lawyer or an accountant expects or doesn´t. It´s about what

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: [SNIP] Or a third alternative... use the ACPI implementation from OpenBSD, which doesn't have such a restriction. Port it! I'll test it for you (on 9-CURRENT and, if possible, a backport to 8-STABLE). In your

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Rob Farmer
: By clicking on and downloading Fedora, you agree to comply with the following terms and conditions: Fedora software and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
Usually, the implications of distributing stuff internationally have a really strict realation with what is exactly what you want to export? ... which in this case, leads you straight into the reading of the terms of the licenses of the software subject to international distribution

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 03:23, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: Im saying what I already said. And yet, you haven't really addressed my

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 03:23, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:19, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a point, then there´s no point in me addressing your point .. unless you are asking me for legal advice .. Should that be the case, just let me know; I charge by the hour .. no pro bono. Seeing as your messages

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 07:23:02 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se To: Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com Cc: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 10/07/2010 12:46 PM, Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:19, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a point, then there´s no point in me addressing your point .. unless you are asking me for legal advice .. Should that be the case, just let me know; I charge by the hour

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Robert Bonomi
To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:46:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and downright ethical

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Glen Barber
On 10/7/10 6:47 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:46:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core I understand that entirely. Which is why it would

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Glen == Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com writes: Glen Can this thread go away now? Only when the problem goes away. Is there a comprehensive list of restrictive sublicenses, or pointers to same, somewhere prominent at the top of the core distro? Or maybe some tool that would dynamically

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Danny Carroll
On 7/10/2010 8:23 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: I would assume you already did that before walking into my office to ask me about the set of licenses up for a review ... otherwise, there´s no way to me to look close enough where I wasn´t asked to look ... If you go tell your Dr. you have a

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 05:47:23PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: Pure and simple, _if_ there is software involved, there *MAY* be export- control issues. *ANYONE* in the business of exporting software _should_ be aware of that fact, and as a matter of basic 'due diligence' know about _their_

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-07 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Oct 7 18:28:10 2010 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:29:46 +1000 From: Danny Carroll f...@dannysplace.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/178267 And yes, there it is, in /usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c: * 4.3. Licensee shall not export, either directly or indirectly, any of this * software or system incorporating such software without first obtaining any

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread RW
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:40:54 -0700 mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/178267 ... So, is such approval on file with the FreeBSD Foundation? without first obtaining _any_ _required_ license or other approval ... It doesn't say

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
RW == RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: RW It doesn't say approval is needed. It says that it's needed if it's RW required by the appropriate agencies. In other words, it's needed if RW it's needed. But doesn't this then shift the burden to every exporter, knowing or unknowing, willing or

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:16:37 -0700 Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com articulated: RW == RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: RW It doesn't say approval is needed. It says that it's needed if RW it's required by the appropriate agencies. In other words, it's RW needed if it's

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Jerry == Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net writes: But doesn't this then shift the burden to every exporter, knowing or unknowing, willing or unwilling? Seems like an onerous burden. Is it well-documented? Jerry Are you familiar with the axiom: Jerry Ignorantia juris non excusat or

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:16:37PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: RW == RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: RW It doesn't say approval is needed. It says that it's needed if it's RW required by the appropriate agencies. In other words, it's needed if RW it's needed. But doesn't this

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
required to do so anyway. Erik AFAICT the paragraph in question does not add any restrictions or Erik burdens, it just points out potentially existing ones. Yes, you always have to obey the law when you export. But this clause seems to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers the export laws, probably in a bad way. Do you have a different opinion, and is it a legal opinion? Either this clause needs to be hoisted to the front page of the FreeBSD distro proper (Some software contained within may be subject

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Rob Farmer
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: I understand that entirely.  Which is why it would be reasonable (and downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well aware of this restriction. It hadn't occurred to *me* for example to

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Rob == Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net writes: Rob Making the license more visible may be a good idea, but doesn't Rob materially change the situation any. I agree, it doesn't change it materially. But for the casual integrator, making it very visible would help. -- Randal L. Schwartz -

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Michael Powell
Rob Farmer wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well aware of this restriction. It hadn't occurred to

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Michael Powell
Michael Powell wrote: [snip] export restrictions have to do with acpi? Is acpi a copyrighted, patented, or trademark otherwise owned by some entity? Quite possibly so as it is in contrib. I just have no idea who might own it. Or how it would fall afoul of crypto export restrictions. Looking

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Michael == Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com writes: Michael I was under the impression that the most onerous of these Michael export rules and restrictions applied to crypto technology. If Michael this is so, what I don't quite grasp is what do crypto export Michael restrictions have to do

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 03:40 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/178267 And yes, there it is, in /usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c: * 4.3. Licensee shall not export, either directly or indirectly, any of this * software

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Jung-uk == Jung-uk Kim j...@freebsd.org writes: Jung-uk Please stop the FUD. ACPICA is actually triple-licensed, i.e., Jung-uk generic Intel software license, (three-clause) BSD-like license, and Jung-uk GPLv2. [...] Jung-uk Historically FreeBSD never touched the license header. However, I

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Rob Farmer
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:04, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: I was under the impression that the most onerous of these export rules and restrictions applied to crypto technology. If this is so, what I don't quite grasp is what do crypto export restrictions have to do with acpi? Is

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
El 06/10/2010 11:18 p.m., Rob Farmer escribió: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartzmer...@stonehenge.com wrote: I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well aware of this restriction.

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
El 07/10/2010 12:11 a.m., Randal L. Schwartz escribió: Michael == Michael Powellnightre...@hotmail.com writes: Michael I was under the impression that the most onerous of these Michael export rules and restrictions applied to crypto technology. If Michael this is so, what I don't quite

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Rob Farmer
/hwsleep.c - it is in all the files within the acpica contrib directory, plus the upstream vendor states that it applies to the entire tarball on their website. You should reasonably expect that each piece of software (ie directory) within contrib may be under a different license and needs

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

2010-10-06 Thread Erik Trulsson
. But this clause seems to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers the export laws, probably in a bad way. Do you have a different opinion, and is it a legal opinion? To me it looks much more like a case of some corporate standard cover-your-ass boilerplate text that is used regardless

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-22 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 09/21/2010 10:17 PM, Len Conrad wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 According to the FreeBSD website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest way

Re: Mailing list software recommendations

2010-09-22 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500 Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com articulated: I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. I'm not against others; thoughts? DADA Mail, http://dadamailproject.com/ is an excellent program. It is not in the ports system although it is on my

Re: Mailing list software recommendations

2010-09-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
lists on majord...@berklix.org to mailman. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Munich 18th Sept Free Software, Lectures Installs http://berklix.org/sdf/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Sep 22 00:32:52 2010 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100 From: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk To: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com Cc: Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-22 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP: the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server. That's sadly true (mostly because of the amounts of spam produced by ordinary PCs

Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-21 Thread Ed Flecko
According to the FreeBSD website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port. Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe a cron script?) that would e-mail my log files to me daily? Thank you, Ed

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-21 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote: According to the FreeBSD website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port. Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-21 Thread Len Conrad
-- Original Message -- From: Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 According to the FreeBSD website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port.

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

2010-09-21 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 From: Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Software to SEND log files only? According to the FreeBSD website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest way to send mail only is to install

Mailing list software recommendations

2010-09-21 Thread Ryan Coleman
I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. I'm not against others; thoughts? -- Ryan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

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