Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Mel Flynn
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:41:04 Jos Chrispijn wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? Err, this thread is very long...can we blame our snuggle Pole or did no one mention convert to ogg-theora and install audio/ices2+audio/icecast2. but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast ___

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast It doesn't care what's inside the ogg container: http://www.theora.org/benefits/ good. i was suggested by /usr/ports/audio/ anyway for just playing static video/audio files on user request it's just exaggeration.

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 21:38:32 Wojciech Puchar wrote: stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? Err, this thread is very long...can we blame our snuggle Pole or did no one mention convert to ogg-theora and install audio/ices2+audio/icecast2. but is it for video? seems like sound

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 21:59:58 Wojciech Puchar wrote: but is it for video? seems like sound broadcast It doesn't care what's inside the ogg container: http://www.theora.org/benefits/ good. i was suggested by /usr/ports/audio/ anyway for just playing static video/audio files on user

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I don't see what static content has got to do with it. OP wants a different delivery method. Just like you can download the static FreeBSD DVD via ftp/http or torrent. i said exaggeration, not wrong way. if there is a requirement to use THAT delivery method from client, you are absolutely

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Mel Flynn
maintaining altq rules / mod_bandwidth / foo-solution or a streaming server, except if the former are already in place. Most important is to consider if your users want to save the file, cause a lot of clients hide or don't provide this feature. Over time though, as speeds and availability

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
, the bandwidth advantage should be clear. There's no real advantage to gain maintaining altq rules / mod_bandwidth / foo-solution or a streaming server, except if the former are already in place. Most important is to consider if your users want to save the file, cause a lot of clients hide or don't

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-26 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/26 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: So again, speaking before you research? again unnecessary comments. Sorry, what? Do you really think: Wojciech wrote: you mean videos from youtube are copyrighted? that was necessary? Stop making noise! It's in the terms of use

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread cpghost
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31:54AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Sorry, mistake: s/file streaming/file download/ when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies Yes, you're right. For static

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Yes, you're right. For static content, buffering a TCP connection is certainly good enough. But for live streams and video conferencing, buffering adds latency we talked about playing/streaming videos from files. for IP-TV, videophone, telephone of course only UDP transport make sense

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Reko Turja
we talked about playing/streaming videos from files. Even streaming from files makes sense in many situations. Please, go back to netbsd or start using linux, at least in linux forums your constant stream of opinion based drivel is most welcome. In here you are poisoning the questions list,

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
we talked about playing/streaming videos from files. Even streaming from files makes sense in many situations. Please, go back to netbsd or start using linux, at least in linux forums your constant stream of opinion based drivel is most welcome. In here you are poisoning the questions list,

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Wojciech Puchar wrote: when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies Oke, but ftp doesn't show the actual file but only downloads it, right? Jos Chrispijn

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Wojciech Puchar wrote: so please test as it's true :) I did test it and indeed it looks that way... actually youtube player does not throttle at all - just load as fast as possible into memory while playing at normal speed. Yes but we are now discussing another service here. Imho there is

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Ott Köstner
into FreeBDS 7.2? Have You tried FFserver? NAME ffserver - FFserver video server SYNOPSIS ffserver [options] DESCRIPTION FFserver is a streaming server for both audio and video. It supports several live feeds, streaming from files and time shifting on live feeds

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies Oke, but ftp doesn't show the actual file but only downloads it, right? depend what program you use. if you mean ftp as /usr/bin/ftp or maybe lftp/ncftp -

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
so please test as it's true :) I did test it and indeed it looks that way... OK actually youtube player does not throttle at all - just load as fast as possible into memory while playing at normal speed. Yes but we are now discussing another service here. Imho there is some difference

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Comment: Hyper fast realtime audio/video encoder/converter, streaming server good for IP-TV but not very (and overcomplex) for playing few files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Ott Köstner wrote: Have You tried FFserver? No, not yet. Thanks for this I will have a look to that one! Best regards, Jos Chrispijn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Wojciech Puchar wrote: There will be no practical difference between playing from FTP/HTTP and this. Aha, now we are getting somewhere! exactly! or - if you like cool webpage interface just make that webpage similarly to youtube and provide just link with Play to your movies. Personally I

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
similarly to youtube and provide just link with Play to your movies. Personally I have nothing with YouTube except that I constantly wonder how they 'stream', which according to your information, is less than I expected :-) except that it prevents caching, it's not less than but just fine.

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-26 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 25 May 2009 23:25:13 +0200, FBSD UG free...@rgbaz.eu wrote: without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... While downloading, you're usually not watching (while it's still

rtmpdump (was: Re: Streaming server)

2009-05-26 Thread cpghost
While we're talking about streaming protocols: how comes we don't have rtmpdump in the ports? http://lkcl.net/rtmp/ Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: rtmpdump (was: Re: Streaming server)

2009-05-26 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 26 May 2009 15:11:41 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: While we're talking about streaming protocols: how comes we don't have rtmpdump in the ports? Maybe because of mplayer -streamdump rtsp:// ... ? :-) I've not checked, but using -streamdump with mplayer lets you dump most

Re: rtmpdump (was: Re: Streaming server)

2009-05-26 Thread cpghost
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:21:26PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 15:11:41 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: While we're talking about streaming protocols: how comes we don't have rtmpdump in the ports? Maybe because of mplayer -streamdump rtsp:// ... ? :-) I've not

Re: rtmpdump (was: Re: Streaming server)

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
have rtmpdump in the ports? Maybe because of mplayer -streamdump rtsp:// ... ? :-) I've not checked, but using -streamdump with mplayer lets you dump most datastreams (coming from another file, a DVD, actually i never had a case it would fail to work :)

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
while watching... While downloading, you're usually not watching (while it's still possible to watch inclomplete files with mplayer). if you type URL containing flash movie in browser (with flash enabled of course ;) it will start playing it before downloading all. And for complete

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Personally I have nothing with YouTube except that I constantly wonder how i do have. because youtube quality== no quality. i treat this mostly as a preview, like downloading for eg. music video to look if it's worth to seek for normal quality version. anyway noone is forced to use it, and

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-26 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 26 May 2009 18:09:42 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: While downloading, you're usually not watching (while it's still possible to watch inclomplete files with mplayer). if you type URL containing flash movie in browser (with flash enabled of

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
content does get stored in main memory only. So it can happen that content gets stored in the swap partition or in a local swap file in the main file system (as a file or part of a file). Temporarily, of course, and splitted. You know what I mean. :-) of course, i meant virtual memory saying

Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Jos Chrispijn
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2?

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Jos On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jos Chrispijn j...@webrz.net wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
make search key=streaming in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages. anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix.

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Jos Chrispijn
installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? somehow i can't understand you do you mean installing FreeBSD for this will use less bandwidth? I already have FreeBSD installed. Just wondering if there is a streaming server for it. Hardly can believe that dedicated download (by opening

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread cpghost
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: make search key=streaming in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages. anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread cpghost
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:06:57PM +0200, cpghost wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: make search key=streaming in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages.

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:41:04 Jos Chrispijn wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
^^^ Sorry, mistake: s/file streaming/file download/ when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... you mean videos from youtube are copyrighted? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix. You're aware of UDP-based real-time streaming protocols, right? yes it is, but we talked about youtube-like services. it's not UDP based very well).

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Adam Vande More
if there is a streaming server for it. Hardly can believe that dedicated download (by opening the remote file in a media player) will be more efficient that a streaming server that takes care of bandwidth throttle and average processing time on (http) requests. I want to provide some animated

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I already have FreeBSD installed. Just wondering if there is a streaming server for it. Hardly can believe that dedicated download (by opening the remote file in a media player) will be more efficient that a streaming server that takes care of bandwidth throttle and average processing time

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread FBSD UG
On 25 mei 2009, at 19:16, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... you mean videos from youtube are

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
So again, speaking before you research? again unnecessary comments. It's in the terms of use http://www.youtube.com/t/terms The content on the YouTube Website, except all User Submissions i'm not regular youtube watcher and actually i was not aware that there are really anything else

Ports: Darwin Streaming Server

2006-10-25 Thread andrew
Hi! I'm compiling the port of net/DarwinStreamingServer and ran into an error: [...] Installing source build of Darwin Streaming Server copying Install to FreeBSD copying DarwinStreamingServer to FreeBSD/DarwinStreamingServer cp: DarwinStreamingServer: No Such File or Directory *** Error code 1

Re: Ports: Darwin Streaming Server

2006-10-25 Thread andrew
Okay. I found the fix to my problem. For the archives, I found the answer on the Apple Streaming-Server-Users mailling list here: http://lists.apple.com/archives/streaming-server-users/2004/Apr/msg00214.html The Buildit script in the source/work directory (work/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5.3-Source

recommended streaming server

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DivX Video streaming server

2002-10-08 Thread Martin Tsanov
Hello, Does anybody is aware of such a software that runs on FreeBSD? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message