Peter N. M. Hansteen writes:
> Take a peek in /usr/share/locale and /usr/local/share/locale next time
> you're at a FreeBSD or Linux system.
No need. I can look at the source of almost any UNIX program and see
that there is no provision for localization at all, short of brute
modification of the
Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I was thinking of UNIX itself, not X servers or related products.
Take a peek in /usr/share/locale and /usr/local/share/locale next time
you're at a FreeBSD or Linux system.
> I doubt that even Apple has bothered to localize any of the UNIX
> softw
Peter N. M. Hansteen writes:
> I fail to see how switching from one set of message strings files in a
> correctly written application would destabilize it.
As I've explained, changing string lengths can be a source of trouble;
string copies that worked before are suddenly overflowing buffers.
Ins
Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Localizing software destabilizes it; localized versions always contain
> more bugs (often very hard-to-find bugs) than original versions.
I fail to see how switching from one set of message strings files in a
correctly written application would dest
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:10:30 +0100, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Josh Ockert writes:
>
> > There's no reason to think that string replacement would cause more
> > bugs in the technical sense; however, a bad translation might
> > contribute to a higher frequency of user error.
>
Josh Ockert writes:
> There's no reason to think that string replacement would cause more
> bugs in the technical sense; however, a bad translation might
> contribute to a higher frequency of user error.
Windows is better adapted to localization than most operating systems,
because it isolates re
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:27 +0100, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Well, not *fully* localized, since the commands were still the usual
> > bunch of 'ls' 'cp', 'mv' etc... (is that really English? ;-)), but
> > everthing else, including error message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Well, not *fully* localized, since the commands were still the usual
> bunch of 'ls' 'cp', 'mv' etc... (is that really English? ;-)), but
> everthing else, including error messages and man pages were in german.
> That was really weird looking, yet cute.
Localizing soft
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 01:52:16PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> I doubt that even Apple has bothered to localize any of the UNIX
> software for OS X. Unless one treats UNIX as a black-box desktop server
> (with a localized GUI), it's going to be hard to work with the system
> without knowing
Peter N. M. Hansteen writes:
> There's an amazing amount of material that has been localized into quite
> a number of languages. I believe Gnome and KDE are pretty much fully
> localized to most languages you can think of these days.
I was thinking of UNIX itself, not X servers or related produc
Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This discussion seems very strange, since I don't really understand how
> anyone could effectively use FreeBSD (or any flavor of UNIX) without
> understanding English in the first place. I've never heard of any
> localized versions of UNIX (?).
The
This discussion seems very strange, since I don't really understand how
anyone could effectively use FreeBSD (or any flavor of UNIX) without
understanding English in the first place. I've never heard of any
localized versions of UNIX (?).
More generally, it's virtually impossible to work in the I
Josh,
On the grounds that this a new front, I'll post on this thread one last
time, but I have been suggesting for several posts now that we've all
expressed our views and other people can make up their minds without
constant repetition from us.
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:18 +0100, Josh Ockert wrot
Good God this is all non-sensical. Peter, there is absolutely nothing
to give the impression that questions is meant to be entirely,
exclusively, or even primarily English-language list. Consider the
following:
1) FreeBSD is a US project, and the US has no official
language, so there is no
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 16:42 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote:
> Peter Risdon wrote:
> >
> >I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying.
It's
> >starting to feel mildly bizarre.
> >
> >Peter.
> >
> I am not trying to misrepresent anything, and I don't believe that I
am.
>
> From yo
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 16:02 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote:
> As much as I would like to ban the French to their own list,
> I can't think of any legitimate reason to do so other than
> personal prejudice.
Well, it's good to see you strike a light-hearted note. There are an
impressive number of straw
Peter Risdon wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:49 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote:
This list has for at
least the past eight years been multilingual.
Kind of... it's an English language list to which posts are sometimes
made in other languages. When that happens, generally one of the
poster's fellow nat
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 14:45 -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
> On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Peter Risdon wrote:
>
> > I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying.
> > It's
> > starting to feel mildly bizarre.
>
> You say this as if it is the first time, being a system admin,
On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Peter Risdon wrote:
I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying.
It's
starting to feel mildly bizarre.
You say this as if it is the first time, being a system admin, you have
had this feeling...
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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:49 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote:
> >
>
> There is no call to splinter into many languages.
*sigh*
The starting point for this was a post which seemed to me to be doing
just that. If you interpret that posting differently, and you haven't
said whether you do, then that's o
On Mar 24, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Peter Risdon wrote:
From: Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: March 24, 2005 12:31:36 PM EST
To: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Josh Ockert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mot de passe root
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:30 -0500, Bob Johnson wr
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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:30 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote:
> >No, I'm sorry but that seems to me to be a non sequitur. We can
> >understand questions we are not competent to answer if they are in
> >English, learn from the replies and if we hit the same issues ourselves
> >we can
On Mar 24, 2005, at 10:30 AM, Bob Johnson wrote:
Peter Risdon wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:05 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:51:51 +, Peter Risdon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
I've noticed that nobody responds negatively t
Peter Risdon wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:05 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:51:51 +, Peter Risdon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian
speakers, b
Peter Risdon wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian
speakers, but that French speakers are told not to ask questions here.
I don't believe this is a fair response.
Perhaps, though I'm not sure myself
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:05 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:51:51 +, Peter Risdon
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
> > > I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian
> > > speakers, but that French
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:51:51 +, Peter Risdon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
> > I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian
> > speakers, but that French speakers are told not to ask questions here.
> > I don't believe
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote:
> I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian
> speakers, but that French speakers are told not to ask questions here.
> I don't believe this is a fair response.
Perhaps, though I'm not sure myself what is said in Russi
I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian
speakers, but that French speakers are told not to ask questions here.
I don't believe this is a fair response.
J'ai bien noté que personne ne répond d'une façon négative lorsqu'il y
a une question d'un russophone, mais que l'on
Dimitri GALAITSIS skrev:
A la fin de l'intallation de BSB 5.3 lors que le systéme me demande de
définir un mot de passe root le systeme refuse
Ni skåningar ska då pressa er inöver allt.
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> A la fin de l'intallation de BSB 5.3 lors que le systéme me demande de
> définir un mot de passe root le systeme refuse
I think this is a english mailing list. Please use
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for french m
A la fin de l'intallation de BSB 5.3 lors que le systéme me demande de
définir un mot de passe root le systeme refuse
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