Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Gary Palmer wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 07:38:32PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: Without input from the current release team extending the support schedule is not possible. Inquiry - is release team the constraint? I don't know. I asked why not, and was told the rel

RELENG_7 hangs on boot w/Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H MB

2008-09-19 Thread Bob Willcox
Hi All, I'm trying to get the latest RELENG_7 to run on my new Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H motherboard and am experiencing a hang on boot right after it prints the message: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a At this point it is hung and doesn't respond to any keyboard input. I originally attempte

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Gary Palmer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 07:38:32PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote: > Without input from the current release team extending the support > schedule is not possible. Inquiry - is release team the constraint? Or to put it another way, what to you is "support" in terms of FreeBSD releases? As far as I am a

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 19, 2008, at 8:57 PM, David N wrote: How long are you expecting support for a RELENG to last, 1, 2, 3 years? 5 years? (comparison, Ubuntu LTS is 3 years, security updates) 2 years for each supported branch would be excellent, although I'm open to alternatives. Right now 6.4 will EoL b

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread David N
2008/9/20 Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sep 19, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Aragon Gouveia wrote: >>> >>> To get a business to commit resources to a project there must be an >>> actual goal. >> >> [1] The FreeBSD project would have to commit resources too. Its community > > Of course. This is what t

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Ben Kaduk
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Aragon Gouveia wrote: >>> >>> To get a business to commit resources to a project there must be an >>> actual goal. >> >> [1] The FreeBSD project would have to commit resources too. Its community

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 19, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Aragon Gouveia wrote: To get a business to commit resources to a project there must be an actual goal. [1] The FreeBSD project would have to commit resources too. Its community Of course. This is what the requirements analysis is ;-) For (a), (b), and (z), t

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Aragon Gouveia
>From what I've gathered so far... | By Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [ 2008-09-20 02:46 +0200 ] > To get a business to commit resources to a project there must be an > actual goal. [1] The FreeBSD project would have to commit resources too. Its commun

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
First, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to respond to this seriously. I hope you'll read my reply in the very serious, and not accusative tone it is meant. (I am a little tired and fried at the moment, I may not use the best phrasing. I hope I do.) On Sep 19, 2008, at 4:20 AM, R

GELI encrypted ZFS zpool

2008-09-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hi everyone, I have an older storage box that I've upgraded to -stable. It currently uses 7 SCSI disks mashed together with gstripe. I've recently replaced this box with a new one running a ZFS setup. I'm now wanting to turn the old one into a storage device running ZFS, but I want the entire poo

Re: alpm(4) I/O range is claimed by ACPI

2008-09-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 09:39:19 pm KAHO Toshikazu wrote: > Hello, > > > Well, bus_alloc_resource() will allocate resources for the BAR and update the > > BAR for you, the question is if you need to hardcode the range to > > bus_alloc_resource() or not. > > It is necessary for a pci d

Re: Calling malloc from a signal handler

2008-09-19 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: I notice that if you use "malloc" from within a signal handler on FreeBSD-6.x, that you can potentially trigger a "recursive call" error. But this seems to have changed in FreeBSD-7.x. Is it now permissible to call "malloc" from within a si

Re: ACPI "blacklist" question

2008-09-19 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Friday 19 September 2008 10:20 am, Oliver Fromme wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 September 2008 07:47:18 am Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > I have recently updated a machine to 7-stable. > > > ACPI doesn't seem to work correctly on this machine. > > > With earlier versions of Fre

Re: ACPI "blacklist" question

2008-09-19 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 11:44 am, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2008 07:47:18 am Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have recently updated a machine to 7-stable. > > ACPI doesn't seem to work correctly on this machine. > > With earlier versions of FreeBSD (including t

Calling malloc from a signal handler

2008-09-19 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
I notice that if you use "malloc" from within a signal handler on FreeBSD-6.x, that you can potentially trigger a "recursive call" error. But this seems to have changed in FreeBSD-7.x. Is it now permissible to call "malloc" from within a signal handler in FreeBSD-7.x? If so, should the man p

Re: Calling malloc from a signal handler

2008-09-19 Thread Jason Evans
Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: I notice that if you use "malloc" from within a signal handler on FreeBSD-6.x, that you can potentially trigger a "recursive call" error. But this seems to have changed in FreeBSD-7.x. The malloc implementation is completely new in FreeBSD 7, so not all of the

Re: ACPI "blacklist" question

2008-09-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2008 07:47:18 am Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I have recently updated a machine to 7-stable. > > ACPI doesn't seem to work correctly on this machine. > > With earlier versions of FreeBSD (including the latest > > RELENG_6), I got this line in dmesg:

Re: floppy disk controller broken

2008-09-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:55:05AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Michel Talon wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Michel Talon wrote: > > > > Moreover, trying to write to the floppy: > > > > niobe# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror > > > > dd: /dev/fd0: Input/output error > > > > 5+0

Re: RELENG_7: something is very wrong with UDP?

2008-09-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Oleg V. Nauman wrote: (1) Start by deleting all but one nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf. Confirm that you can still reproduce the problem. Due to various reasons my laptop running local caching DNS server ( named ) without any forwarders assigned. My /etc/resolv.

Re: RELENG_7: something is very wrong with UDP?

2008-09-19 Thread Oleg V. Nauman
Quoting Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Oleg V. Nauman wrote: It seems to be something is very wrong with UDP on latest RELENG_7 Well some symptoms I have seen today when I was trying to boot newly compiled RELENG_7 on my laptop: a) rc scripts indefinitely waiting

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Jo Rhett wrote: Thank you. If you don't mind I'd prefer to widen the scope a touch because 6.2 will eventually go away, and frankly it is probably better to look forward than to resurrect an unsupported version. So I would probably state: Jo's $EMPLOYER has significant

Re: floppy disk controller broken

2008-09-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Michel Talon wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Michel Talon wrote: > > > Moreover, trying to write to the floppy: > > > niobe# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror > > > dd: /dev/fd0: Input/output error > > > 5+0 records in > > > 4+0 records out > > > 2048 bytes transferred in 4.054404

Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule...

2008-09-19 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Hi, Jo Rhett wrote: I agree with pretty much everything you've said here, with the obvious exception that I don't know what's involved in the release management process to do as you've said. Also for my own self, rather than resurrect 6.2 I'd personally rather focus on what we could do to ex