Re: ZFS...

2019-06-06 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan wrote: On 02 May 2019, at 03:39, Steven Hartland wrote: On 01/05/2019 15:53, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Paul Mather wrote: On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Been there done that though with ext2 rather than UFS.. still got all my data back... even

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-10 Thread Michelle Sullivan
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Re: ZFS...

2019-05-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 09 May 2019, at 21:27, Bob Bishop wrote: > > >> On 9 May 2019, at 12:17, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> >> >> Michelle Sullivan >> http://www.mhix.org/ >> Sent from my iPad

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 09 May 2019, at 22:50, Alan Somers wrote: > >> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:37 AM Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote: >> >> Dimitry Andric wrote on 2019/05/09 13:02: >>> On 9 May

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 09 May 2019, at 19:41, Borja Marcos wrote: > > > >> On 9 May 2019, at 00:55, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> >> >> This is true, but I am of the thought in alignment with the

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 09 May 2019, at 17:46, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > Hi all, > >> Am 09.05.2019 um 00:55 schrieb Michelle Sullivan : >> No, one disk in the 16 disk zRAID2 ... previously unseen but it could be >

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 09 May 2019, at 21:02, Dimitry Andric wrote: > >> On 9 May 2019, at 10:32, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote: >> >> Patrick M. Hausen wrote on 2019/05/09 09:46: >>> Hi all, >&

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-08 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad On 09 May 2019, at 01:55, Walter Parker wrote: >> >> >> ZDB (unless I'm misreading it) is able to find all 34m+ files and >> verifies the checksums. The problem is in the zfs data structures (one >> de

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-08 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 09 May 2019, at 03:04, Karl Denninger wrote: > >> On 5/8/2019 11:53, Freddie Cash wrote: >>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:31 AM Karl Denninger wrote: >>> >>> I have a system here wi

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-08 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Paul Mather wrote: On May 8, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Paul Mather wrote: due to lack of space. Interestingly have had another drive die in the array - and it doesn't just have one or two sectors down it has a *lot* - which was not noticed by the original machine - I moved

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-08 Thread Michelle Sullivan
(new data is added, old it not touched), and (2) because to complete it took 2 weeks.) Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-08 Thread Michelle Sullivan
, were you doing periodic scrubs? I’m not sure you mentioned it. Yes though once a month as it took 2 weeks to complete. Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-07 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Karl Denninger wrote: On 5/7/2019 00:02, Michelle Sullivan wrote: The problem I see with that statement is that the zfs dev mailing lists constantly and consistently following the line of, the data is always right there is no need for a “fsck” (which I actually get) but it’s used to shut down

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-07 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Paul Mather wrote: On May 7, 2019, at 1:02 AM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: On 07 May 2019, at 10:53, Paul Mather wrote: On May 6, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: My issue here (and not really what the blog is about) FreeBSD is defaulting to it. You've said this at least

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-06 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 07 May 2019, at 10:53, Paul Mather wrote: > >> On May 6, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> My issue here (and not really what the blog is about) FreeBSD is defaulting >> to it.

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-06 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 06 May 2019, at 22:23, Walter Cramer wrote: > >> On Mon, 6 May 2019, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >>> Am 30.04.2019 um 18:07 schrieb Walter Cramer : > >>> With even a 1

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-05 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Pete French wrote: On 05/05/2019 04:06, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Which I find interesting in itself as I have a machine running 9.3 which started life as a 5.x (which tells you how old it is) and it’s still running on the same *compaq* raid5 with UFS on it... with the original drives

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-04 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 05 May 2019, at 05:36, Chris wrote: > > Sorry t clarify, Michelle I do believe your tail of events, just I > meant that it reads like a tale as its so unusual. There are multiple separate instances of problems

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-03 Thread Michelle Sullivan
New batteries are only $19 on eBay for most battery types... Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 03 May 2019, at 23:30, Pete French wrote: > > > >> On 03/05/2019 14:07, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> I don’t think it will do that in write thr

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-03 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 03 May 2019, at 22:51, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 08:25:08PM +1000, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >>> On 03 May 2019, at 20:09, Borja Marcos via freebsd-stable >>> wrote: >>>

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-03 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 03 May 2019, at 20:09, Borja Marcos via freebsd-stable > wrote: > > > >> On 3 May 2019, at 11:55, Pete French wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 03/05/2019 08:09, Borja Marcos via fre

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 03 May 2019, at 04:04, N.J. Mann wrote: > > Hi, > > > I will ignore the insult and just say again "come into contact". Yes, > I do know what I am talking about and have even seen it happen. >

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 03 May 2019, at 03:18, N.J. Mann wrote: > > Hi, > > > On Friday, May 03, 2019 03:00:05 +1000 Michelle Sullivan > wrote: >>>> I am sorry to hear about your loss of data, but where does the

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 03 May 2019, at 02:24, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > N.J. Mann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> On Thursday, May 02, 2019 09:27:36 +1000 Michelle Sullivan >> wrote: >>>> On 02 May 2019,

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
N.J. Mann wrote: Hi, On Thursday, May 02, 2019 09:27:36 +1000 Michelle Sullivan wrote: On 02 May 2019, at 02:16, Chris wrote: Your story is so unusual I am wondering if its not fiction, I mean all sorts of power cuts where it just so happens the UPS fails every time, The only “fiction

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 02 May 2019, at 09:46, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > What I do know is in the second round -FfX wouldn’t work, *after the second round ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing l

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 02 May 2019, at 03:39, Steven Hartland wrote: > > > >> On 01/05/2019 15:53, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> Paul Mather wrote: >>>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: &g

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 02 May 2019, at 02:16, Chris wrote: > > Your story is so unusual I am wondering if its not fiction, I mean all > sorts of power cuts where it just so happens the UPS fails every time, The only “fiction” is the date..

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Paul Mather wrote: On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Been there done that though with ext2 rather than UFS.. still got all my data back... even though it was a nightmare.. Is that an implication that had all your data been on UFS (or ext2:) this time around you

Re: ZFS...

2019-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Paul Mather wrote: On Apr 30, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad On 01 May 2019, at 01:15, Karl Denninger wrote: IMHO non-ECC memory systems are ok for personal desktop and laptop machines where loss of stored data

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 12:37, Karl Denninger wrote: > > On 4/30/2019 20:59, Michelle Sullivan wrote >>> On 01 May 2019, at 11:33, Karl Denninger wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/30/2019 19:14, Michelle Sulli

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Xin LI wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:08 PM Michelle Sullivan <mailto:miche...@sorbs.net>> wrote: but in my recent experience 2 issues colliding at the same time results in disaster Do we know exactly what kind of corruption happen to your pool? If you see it twice

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 11:33, Karl Denninger wrote: > > >> On 4/30/2019 19:14, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> Michelle Sullivan >> http://www.mhix.org/ >> Sent from my iPad >> >&g

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 01:15, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > IMHO non-ECC memory systems are ok for personal desktop and laptop > machines where loss of stored data requiring a restore is acceptable > (assuming you have a

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
supermicro, with dual 6 kva HP UPSs with batteries replaced every 36 months and a generator. -Walter [Credits: Nothing above is original. Others have already made most of my points in this thread. It's pretty much all decades-old computer wisdom in any case.] Yup, I know the drill. Mich

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
This issue is definitely related to sudden unexpected loss of power during resilver.. not ECC/non-ECC issues. Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 00:12, Alan Somers wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 8:05 AM Michelle Sul

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 00:01, Alan Somers wrote: > >>> >>> Unfortunately however there is also cache memory on most modern hard >>> drives, most of the time (unless you explicitly shut it off) it's on

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 00:01, Alan Somers wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:30 AM Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> Karl Denninger wrote: >>> On 4/30/2019 05:14, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >>>&

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Karl Denninger wrote: On 4/30/2019 03:09, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Consider.. If one triggers such a fault on a production server, how can one justify transferring from backup multiple terabytes (or even petabytes now) of data to repair an unmountable/faulted array because all backup

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Karl Denninger wrote: On 4/30/2019 05:14, Michelle Sullivan wrote: On 30 Apr 2019, at 19:50, Xin LI wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:08 PM Michelle Sullivan wrote: but in my recent experience 2 issues colliding at the same time results in disaster Do we know exactly what kind of corruption

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 19:50, Xin LI wrote: > > >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:08 PM Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> but in my recent experience 2 issues colliding at the same time results in >> disaster >

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 18:44, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: > > Am 2019-04-30 10:09, schrieb Michelle Sullivan: > >> Now, yes most production environments have multiple backing stores so >> will have a server or

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-30 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 17:10, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >> On 4/30/19 2:41 AM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> The system was originally built on 9.0, and got upgraded through out the >> years... zfsd was no

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Comments inline.. Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 03:06, Alan Somers wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:23 AM Michelle Sullivan >> wrote: >> >> I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop

Re: ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 30 Apr 2019, at 03:13, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > Hi! > >> I know I'm not going to be popular for this, but I'll just drop it here >> anyhow. >> >> http://www.michellesullivan.org/blog/172

ZFS...

2019-04-29 Thread Michelle Sullivan
. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers

2018-10-04 Thread Michelle Sullivan
tech-lists wrote: I'm astonished you're considering removing rl given how common it is. I'll second that comment - though no disrespect to Brooks. Brooks as far as I can see is just the messenger. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org

Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12

2018-08-26 Thread Michelle Sullivan
' of FreeBSD and someone I respect and I know would not be putting 'kludges' and substandard code into the trees... Direct your anger elsewhere, whilst still making valid points. Regards, Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd

Re: hw.vga.textmode=1 and the installation media

2017-12-14 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: Hi, would be really nice if the 11.2 and subsequent versions would come with the hw.vga.textmode=1 as the default in the installation media. Because you know, there's a problem with some vendors (like HP) who's servers are incapable of showing graphics in IPMI with

Re: 9.3 to 11.1 upgrade

2017-06-20 Thread Michelle Sullivan
> 11.x Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: CVE-2016-7434 NTP

2016-12-15 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Xin LI wrote: We plan to issue an EN to update the base system ntp to 4.2.8p9. The high impact issue is Windows only by the way. I don't think I'm even impacted - but $security team are going nuts about getting patched on all systems :/ Michelle

Re: CVE-2016-7434 NTP

2016-12-12 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Dimitry Andric wrote: On 08 Dec 2016, at 06:08, Michelle Sullivan <miche...@sorbs.net> wrote: Are we going to get a patch for CVE-2016-7434 on FreeBSD 9.3? On Nov 22, in r309009, Xin Li merged ntp 4.2.8p9, which fixes this issue, to stable/9: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/

CVE-2016-7434 NTP

2016-12-07 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Are we going to get a patch for CVE-2016-7434 on FreeBSD 9.3? Michelle ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: freebsd-update borked?

2016-08-04 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Yass Amed wrote: On 08/04/2016 07:00 AM, freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 17:51:13 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan<miche...@sorbs.net> To: St?phane Dupille via freebsd-stable<freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: freebsd-update borked

freebsd-update borked?

2016-08-03 Thread Michelle Sullivan
~]# uname -a FreeBSD cheetah.sorbs.net 9.2-RELEASE-p15 FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p15 #0: Mon Nov 3 20:31:29 UTC 2014 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable

Re: mfi driver performance too bad on LSI MegaRAID SAS 9260-8i

2016-08-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
do without any load either.) So moral of the story/choices. Don't go with ZFS because people tell you its best, because it isn't, go with ZFS if it suits your hardware and application, and if ZFS suits your application, get hardware for it. Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://w

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - First Quarter 2016 (fwd)

2016-05-01 Thread Michelle Sullivan
parietal art remained fixed. In all, a discomfiture of abundance. View the rubrics below, and marvel at their profusion and magnitude! Marvel! You're trolling right? -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org

Re: Periodic jobs triggering panics in 10.1 and 10.2

2015-12-10 Thread Michelle Sullivan
hts as trivial and pointless and reply as such and get on with making my stuff better by actually listening to people who use it. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Periodic jobs triggering panics in 10.1 and 10.2

2015-12-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
n is an ever growing list of where it causes problems.. when did UFS become an unreliable FS that is susceptible to chronic data corruption? -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailm

Re: Periodic jobs triggering panics in 10.1 and 10.2

2015-12-09 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Jan Bramkamp wrote: > On 09/12/15 13:45, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> >> No that will just hide it (if successful at all) and it won't work in >> all cases. >> >> ... i386 is even worse for similar (not the same) instability triggered >> by the same scr

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Glen Barber wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 02:54:00AM +0200, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Actually I'm quite sucessfully running zfs on i386 (in a VM) ... here's the trick (which leads me to suspect ARC handling as the problem) - when I get to 512M of kernel space or less than 1G of RAM

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-23 Thread Michelle Sullivan
on i386, you *must* build your own kernel for this. It is otherwise unsupported by default. Why is zfs on i386 so hard? Why is it even in the GENERIC kernel if it's unsupported? -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-23 Thread Michelle Sullivan
this formula I have uptimes of months... I haven't yet tried the 'ARC patch' that was proposed recently... -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable

Re: ZFS out of swap space

2015-03-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan
without flags. Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org /compose?To=freebsd%2dsta...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable

Re: ZFS out of swap space

2015-03-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan
a scrub in 9.x (which ultimately was all caused by power, ups and battery failure whilst in the middle of a resilver. Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: ZFS out of swap space

2015-03-25 Thread Michelle Sullivan
made of 2 disks to GPT and one as hot-swap. Write a 11-STABLE USB drive boot from it to single user, run your import, then run an export, then reboot into 9.3 and import without flags. Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd