Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-22 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:08:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > At work, amoungst my stable of old computers running FreeBSD, I have a > Fujitsu M800 - a 4 Zeon SMP processor with 4 GB of memory. This > primarily runs Nagios and a small and lightly used MySQL database, along > with a few inbound

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-23 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:08:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > > At work, amoungst my stable of old computers running FreeBSD, I have a > > Fujitsu M800 - a 4 Zeon SMP processor with 4 GB of memory. This > > primarily runs Nagio

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread LI Xin
Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:08:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote: >>> At work, amoungst my stable of old computers running FreeBSD, I have a >>> Fujitsu M800 - a 4 Zeon SMP processor with 4 GB of memory. Thi

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread Oleg Derevenetz
Цитирую LI Xin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Kostik Belousov wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:08:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > >>> At work, amoungst my stable of old computers running FreeBSD, I have > a > >>> Fujitsu M800

RE: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread Jan Mikkelsen
LI Xin wrote: > Kostik Belousov wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:08:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > >>> At work, amoungst my stable of old computers running > FreeBSD, I have a > >>> Fujitsu M800 - a 4 Zeon SMP process

RE: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread Jan Mikkelsen
Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > [ ... ] > I reported simular issue for FreeBSD 6.2 in audit-trail for > kern/104406: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=104406&cat= > > and there should be a thread related to this. Briefly, I > suspects that this is > related to nullfs filesystems on my s

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread Eugene Grosbein
Kostik Belousov wrote: > I would suspect the mlx controller. There is several processes (for instance, > 988, 50918) waiting for completion of block read, and processes in the "ufs" > states are the result of the lock cascade, IMHO. It may be possible that controller is not guilty. You can easil

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread LI Xin
Hi, Oleg, Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > Цитирую LI Xin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [...] >> I'm not very sure if this is specific to one disk controller. Actually >> I got some occasional reports about similar hangs on amd64 6.2-RELEASE >> (slightly patched version) that most of processes stuck in the 'ufs'

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 11:53:32AM +1000, Jan Mikkelsen wrote: > LI Xin wrote: > > Kostik Belousov wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > > >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:08:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > > >>> At work, amoungst my stable of old compute

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-25 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > Another 6-STABLE (cvsupped on 27/03/07) example, with diagnostics taken > rather sooner after the hang. Processes with wmesg=ufs feature often in > the ps output. Thanks for the assorted replies. I'll try using INVARIANTS, as I'd

Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?

2007-04-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 02:01:57AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:56:32AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > > Another 6-STABLE (cvsupped on 27/03/07) example, with diagnostics taken > > rather sooner after the hang. Processes with wmesg=ufs feature often in > > the ps out

How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:53:08AM +0800, LI Xin wrote: > Hi, Oleg, > > Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > > ??? LI Xin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [...] > >> I'm not very sure if this is specific to one disk controller. Actually > >> I got some occasional reports about similar hangs on amd64 6.2-RELEASE >

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-25 Thread Oleg Derevenetz
Цитирую Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > > > ??? LI Xin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [...] > > >> I'm not very sure if this is specific to one disk controller. > Actually > > >> I got some occasional reports about similar hangs on amd64 > 6.2-RELEASE > > >> (slightl

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-25 Thread LI Xin
Oleg Derevenetz wrote: [snip] > Not all people can do deadlock debugging, though. In my case turning on > INVARIANTS and WITNESS leads to unacceptable performance penalty due to > heavily > loaded server. So I can only describe my case, actions and result without > providing any debug informati

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:14:20PM +0400, Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > > Until you (or a developer) have analyzed the resulting information, > > you cannot definitively determine whether or not your problem is the > > same as a given random other problem, and you may just confuse the > > issue by maki

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-25 Thread Oleg Derevenetz
Цитирую Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:14:20PM +0400, Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > > > > Until you (or a developer) have analyzed the resulting information, > > > you cannot definitively determine whether or not your problem is > the > > > same as a given random other

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:20:25PM +0400, Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > ??? Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:14:20PM +0400, Oleg Derevenetz wrote: > > > > > > Until you (or a developer) have analyzed the resulting information, > > > > you cannot definitively dete

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, April 24, 2007 23:53:16 -0400 Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:53:08AM +0800, LI Xin wrote: >> Hi, Oleg, >> >> Oleg Derevenetz wrote: >> > ??? LI Xin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> [...] >> >> I'm n

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-27 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-27 16:03 -0300]: > A thought: how hard would it be to add some method of forcing a system crash, > that would dump core, from the command line? Something that, by default, > would Doesn't 'kill -6 1' work anymore? Nicolas -- http://www.rachi

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, April 27, 2007 22:57:29 +0200 Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-27 16:03 -0300]: >> A thought: how hard would it be to add some method of forcing a system >> crash, that

Re: How to report bugs (Re: 6.2-STABLE deadlock?)

2007-04-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Saturday 28 April 2007 04:33, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > A thought: how hard would it be to add some method of forcing a > system crash, that would dump core, from the command line? Something > that, by default, would be disabled, but for remote debugging > purposes, one could enable in the kern