This looks really good! Ship that baby! :)
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 13:13 -0600, Mike Porter wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
> >
> > Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
>
> my mistake (or my mailer's depending on how you look at it).
> If the majordomo config file for the list included the line
> "
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:30 PM, Juha Saarinen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
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> > In a company, alpha testing is done by the developers or other
> > employees of the company,
>
> Once Upon A Time this was true, but no longer. Viz. Microsoft's
> "Te
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:14 PM, Mike Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
> > Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
> >
> my mistake (or my mailer's depending on how you look at it). If the
> majordomo config file for the li
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
> In a company, alpha testing is done by the developers or other
> employees of the company,
Once Upon A Time this was true, but no longer. Viz. Microsoft's
"Technology Preview" editions of various pieces of software. Due to
lengthening development cycles,
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Nik Clayton wrote:
> I've rewritten section 19.2.2.1 and 19.2.2.2 at
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html
>
> Do people think this gets the point across any better?
Yep! It's now abundantly clear.
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Regards,
Juha
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On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
> Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:41:18AM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote:
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> At 11:44 PM 6/26/2001 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> >I've rewritten section 19.2.2.1 and 19.2.2.2 at
> >
> >
> >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html
> >
> >Do people think this gets th
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:34:03AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> From: "Juha Saarinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200
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> > "19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE?
> > If
Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:52 AM, Mike Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 07:11, you wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:07 PM, Chad R. Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> wrote:
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> > If anyone is taking vot
Mike Porter writes:
> [Lots of rambling ideas ...]
First of all Mike, quite an interesting post. Unfortuantely, either the
author of the book didn't understand or didn't explain the CMM well
enough for you to be able to use it.
I have worked as a Software Quality Engineer (really doing Quality,
I think it's become clear in this discussion that some people
reguard -stable as the secure, regularly updated moving release canidate.
Other people view -stable as a just stable enough branch for developers to
coordinate building new functionality.
If the 2nd view is the official one, then a new
JK> All of your problems can be traced back to old hardware or inexperience
with the latest thinking in BSD land. Because you have not upgraded
your 2.x system, you are essentially stuck. Either get newer hardware
to work with or go through the upgrade based on your subscription disks.
While th
JW> I react rather badly to some of your comments concerning the usability
of
JW> FreeBSD. Our goal *should* be a simple and turnkey system, or at the
least,
SH> That would be a RELEASE. They are usually pretty good at being just that
IMHO.
No, usability follows from design and functionality. T
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:54:10PM -0400, Kevin Way wrote:
> cvsup works fine over dialup, and not unacceptably slowly either.
I cvsup the whole thing, maintaining my own local copy of the entire
repository. Source, ports, doc, gnats, www. No refuse files at all
(not got round to it).
I norma
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200
"Juha Saarinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JS> :: The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track
JS> :: stable.
JS>
JS> Well, that isn't what the Handbook says:
JS>
JS> "19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE?
JS> If you are a commercial use
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:45:24AM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you
> > are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable.
> > [...]
>
> I just like to say that my experience with tracking stable is quite
> pos
FreeBSD Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types:
> I haven't posting anything in some time, so I'm making up for it now with
> this tome. 8-) It says nothing important and means nothing, so skip as you
> like.
You do have some very good points, and some of them are being
addressed already.
> Don't thi
Dmitry Karasik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types:
> On 21 Jun 01 at 16:45, "Jason" (Jason Watkins) wrote:
> Jason> Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to
> Jason> another. What you're really worried about is how stable -stable
> Jason> is. Address that, and things will be better than ma
Ok, last try.
I'm not trying to push responsibility off on anyone.
There will be in infinitesmal amount of work
involved. The tag points to the RELENG_X_Y tag with the highest X
primarily and the highest Y secondarily. That's it. No more. If
someone has decided to create a new RELENG_X_Y then n
And this would be different than -stable how?
>> Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without
>> needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0.
Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to another. What you're
really worried about is how stable
*not* editing the file)
4) ci -u supfile
when I can do: nothing. This is easier, and less prone to mistakes.
Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the zero
length list as the simpler one.
Regards,
davep
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