Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:52 AM, Mike Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Wednesday 27 June 2001 07:11, you wrote:
On Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:07 PM, Chad R. Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
If anyone is taking votes, I
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:34:03AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
From: Juha Saarinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200
19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE?
If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:41:18AM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote:
At 11:44 PM 6/26/2001 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
I've rewritten section 19.2.2.1 and 19.2.2.2 at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html
Do people think this gets the point
On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
my mistake (or my mailer's depending on how you look at it). If the
majordomo config file for the list included the line reply-to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then all replies would by defualt go back
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Nik Clayton wrote:
I've rewritten section 19.2.2.1 and 19.2.2.2 at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html
Do people think this gets the point across any better?
Yep! It's now abundantly clear.
--
Regards,
Juha
PGP
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
In a company, alpha testing is done by the developers or other
employees of the company,
Once Upon A Time this was true, but no longer. Viz. Microsoft's
Technology Preview editions of various pieces of software. Due to
lengthening development cycles,
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:14 PM, Mike Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
my mistake (or my mailer's depending on how you look at it). If the
majordomo config file for the list
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:30 PM, Juha Saarinen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
In a company, alpha testing is done by the developers or other
employees of the company,
Once Upon A Time this was true, but no longer. Viz. Microsoft's
Technology
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 13:13 -0600, Mike Porter wrote:
On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
my mistake (or my mailer's depending on how you look at it).
If the majordomo config file for the list included the line
reply-to:
This looks really good! Ship that baby! :)
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JW I react rather badly to some of your comments concerning the usability
of
JW FreeBSD. Our goal *should* be a simple and turnkey system, or at the
least,
SH That would be a RELEASE. They are usually pretty good at being just that
IMHO.
No, usability follows from design and functionality.
JK All of your problems can be traced back to old hardware or inexperience
with the latest thinking in BSD land. Because you have not upgraded
your 2.x system, you are essentially stuck. Either get newer hardware
to work with or go through the upgrade based on your subscription disks.
While
I think it's become clear in this discussion that some people
reguard -stable as the secure, regularly updated moving release canidate.
Other people view -stable as a just stable enough branch for developers to
coordinate building new functionality.
If the 2nd view is the official one, then a
Mike Porter writes:
[Lots of rambling ideas ...]
First of all Mike, quite an interesting post. Unfortuantely, either the
author of the book didn't understand or didn't explain the CMM well
enough for you to be able to use it.
I have worked as a Software Quality Engineer (really doing Quality,
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:54:10PM -0400, Kevin Way wrote:
cvsup works fine over dialup, and not unacceptably slowly either.
I cvsup the whole thing, maintaining my own local copy of the entire
repository. Source, ports, doc, gnats, www. No refuse files at all
(not got round to it).
I
FreeBSD Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] types:
I haven't posting anything in some time, so I'm making up for it now with
this tome. 8-) It says nothing important and means nothing, so skip as you
like.
You do have some very good points, and some of them are being
addressed already.
Don't think
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:45:24AM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
snip
You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you
are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable.
[...]
I just like to say that my experience with tracking stable is quite
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200
Juha Saarinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JS :: The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track
JS :: stable.
JS
JS Well, that isn't what the Handbook says:
JS
JS 19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE?
JS If you are a commercial user or
Ok, last try.
I'm not trying to push responsibility off on anyone.
There will be in infinitesmal amount of work
involved. The tag points to the RELENG_X_Y tag with the highest X
primarily and the highest Y secondarily. That's it. No more. If
someone has decided to create a new RELENG_X_Y then
Dmitry Karasik [EMAIL PROTECTED] types:
On 21 Jun 01 at 16:45, Jason (Jason Watkins) wrote:
Jason Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to
Jason another. What you're really worried about is how stable -stable
Jason is. Address that, and things will be better than managing:
do: nothing. This is easier, and less prone to mistakes.
Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the zero
length list as the simpler one.
Regards,
davep
Valentin Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 16:20:15, davep (David A. Panariti)
Valentin wrote about Re: Staying *really stable
And this would be different than -stable how?
Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without
needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0.
Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to another. What you're
really worried about is how stable
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Hello,
I have been follow the discussion about RELEASE, STABLE, CURRENT and
security patches for a particular release.
Resuming: RELEASE and STABLE are develoment branches.
In the handbook related to STABLE: «but we do occasionally make
mistakes»,
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