Re: [Freedos-devel] Directory hierarchy

2004-02-24 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
LG> I'd divide *only* SRC into project subdirectories. BIN, INF, HLP, MAN and LG> NLS better be common for *all* projects, as they usually contain only a LG> single file per project (with some exceptions). _Not_ agreed - many distributives contains similar files (readme, what.new, etc.), so MA

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Johnson Lam
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:00:50 +0300 (MSK), you wrote: Hi, > Yes, though, "DOC" is not liked for me, because reminds MS Word. This >directory, probably, may be called MAN (from "manual"). For better and much clearer definition, "TXT" should be best. For example, you see PG.TXT or UDMA.TXT you

Re: [Freedos-devel] Directory hierarchy (was "MS-DOS names")

2004-02-24 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
.. >Otherwise, I agree with Arkady. No need to have 50 files called COPYING with equal >contents ;-) .. We don't (well not really). Within the distribution there is a package called GPLv2, which contains nothing but the GPL license which is installed to the base dirctory (e.g. C:\DOS\COPYING ).

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 21:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> BTW, keyboard.sys may be placed into NLS. EA> No, is only 1 file. Keep it on traditional place: Same directory where EA> keyboard binary is. I say "may", not "should". :) >> Data usually not separa

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Directory hierarchy

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 20:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: EA> The "INF" (APPINFO?) already is ONE directory with ONE .lsm file per project Me liked this name! :) >> >FDOS\FONT\*.cpi ... EA> (and \fdos\man\pg.man ...) EA> NOT useful. There are only very FEW files like

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Aitor Santamari'a Merino
Arkady V.Belousov escribio': Hi! 24-Фев-2004 21:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamari'a Merino) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ASM> In MS-DOS for most of the countries (I'd say) you rarely use much more ASM> than EGA.CPI (or EGA2.CPI). So what? If many files are not used, you may remove them (

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 21:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamari'a Merino) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >>ASM> In MS-DOS for most of the countries (I'd say) you rarely use much more >>ASM> than EGA.CPI (or EGA2.CPI). >> So what? If many files are not used, you may remove them (to reduce >>used disk sp

[Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > BTW, keyboard.sys may be placed into NLS. No, is only 1 file. Keep it on traditional place: Same directory where keyboard binary is. > Data usually not separated as "binary" or "not binary" (ie. textual), > whereas BIN is not worsest name. :) How else? EXE? Calling it "bat-com-

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 20:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamari'a Merino) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ASM> (I've always considered it a very bad idea that Microsoft ASM> chose DOC for the Microsoft Word native files, precisely because there ASM> are many plain text files with extension DOC already too).

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Aitor Santamari'a Merino
Hi, Arkady V.Belousov escribio': Hi! 24-Фев-2004 20:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamari'a Merino) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mf> C:\DOS - same as above + any support files I think, if there will be too many "support files" of some type (say, fonts), then they should be moved i

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 20:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamari'a Merino) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >>mf> C:\DOS - same as above + any support files >> I think, if there will be too many "support files" of some type (say, >>fonts), then they should be moved into own subdirectory (say, >>

[Freedos-devel] re: Directory hierarchy

2004-02-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi, thanks for changing to a shorter subject! > LG> I'd divide *only* SRC into project subdirectories. BIN, INF, HLP, MAN and > LG> NLS better be common for *all* projects, as they usually contain only a > LG> single file per project (with some exceptions). Not really true, and not really a prob

Re: [Freedos-devel] Directory hierarchy (was "MS-DOS names")

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 20:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG> Yet another 3-letter maniac's proposal ;-) LG> DOS\BIN executable files LG> DOS\LSM linux software map files LG> DOS\HLP help files LG> DOS\MAN manuals and other documentation LG> DOS\NLS

Re: [Freedos-devel] Directory hierarchy (was "MS-DOS names")

2004-02-24 Thread Aitor Santamari'a Merino
Hi, Luchezar Georgiev escribio': Yet another 3-letter maniac's proposal ;-) DOS\BIN executable files DOS\LSM linux software map files DOS\HLP help files DOS\MAN manuals and other documentation DOS\NLS national language support DOS\SRC source code, divided into project subdirectories I'd divide *

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Aitor Santamari'a Merino
Arkady V.Belousov escribio': Hi! 24-Фев-2004 01:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DOS- all exe/com/sys files DOS\APPINFO- lsm files DOS\DOC\project- documentation for 'project' DOS\HELP - all help files DOS\NLS- n

[Freedos-devel] Directory hierarchy (was "MS-DOS names")

2004-02-24 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
Yet another 3-letter maniac's proposal ;-) DOS\BIN executable files DOS\LSM linux software map files DOS\HLP help files DOS\MAN manuals and other documentation DOS\NLS national language support DOS\SRC source code, divided into project subdirectories I'd divide *only* SRC into project subdirectori

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Aitor Santamari'a Merino
Hi, Arkady V.Belousov escribio': mf> I prefer: mf> C:\DOS - same as above + any support files I think, if there will be too many "support files" of some type (say, fonts), then they should be moved into own subdirectory (say, FDOS\FONT\*.cpi). Of course, application should search ow

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 01:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> DOS- all exe/com/sys files >> DOS\APPINFO- lsm files >> DOS\DOC\project- documentation for 'project' >> DOS\HELP - all help files >> DOS\NLS- national lang

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Фев-2004 09:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (maintainer freedospg) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mf> Will "name crash" happen in DOS\HELP like "readme"? I think, HELP subdirectory should contain _help files_ in some specific formats (notwithstanding if they are text or binary), not general purpos

[Freedos-devel] re:Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi, crunzip is UNZIP which is able to handle crypted files. This has no export limitations and the binary is called UNZIP, too. So it gives extra functionality at "no extra cost". crZIP would have to be put online separately, but there are enough non-US mirrors of ZIP where you can download it.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Alain
Jim Hall escreveu: DOS- all exe/com/sys files Definetly yes DOS\HELP - all help files but the help command should be in the DOS directory Alain --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and

Re: [Freedos-devel] Q: Watcom & debugging

2004-02-24 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > b) How can I debug those programs from within WinNT? Both the tools in > BINNT and BINW complain about invalid debugging information. I pass the > "-d3" option to WCC.EXE and WLINK.EXE gets "DEBUG WATCOM ALL". The > executable has lots of stuff append

RE: [Freedos-devel] Q: Watcom & debugging

2004-02-24 Thread Roberto Mariottini
Hi, comments embedded. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Freedos-devel] Q: Watcom & debugging > > > Hello, > > I'm trying to setup a functio

[Freedos-devel] Q: Watcom & debugging

2004-02-24 Thread freecom
Hello, I'm trying to setup a functional OpenWatcom environment on WinXP (using BINNT tools) building real-mode DOS programs. Till now it builds objects and executables fine. I have these problems: a) When I try to use a "normal" librarian (aka LIB.EXE), the Watvom linker does accept the library,

Re: [Freedos-devel] re:Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread maintainer freedospg
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for you explanation. Looks like DOSEMU's setting, I'll take your suggestion. BIN\PG.EXE DOC\PG\PG.MAN regards, BAHCL --- "Kenneth J. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 的郵件內容:> > > Not if you are only doing it for distribution > package > reasons, otherwise go ahead. While I encou

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos filenames?

2004-02-24 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
.. > > DOS- all exe/com/sys files > DOS\APPINFO- lsm files > DOS\DOC\project- documentation for 'project' > DOS\HELP - all help files > DOS\NLS- national language support files > DOS\SOURCE\project - source code for 'project' > > >Note that th

Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
>Hi! > >> DOS- all exe/com/sys files >> DOS\APPINFO- lsm files >> DOS\DOC\project- documentation for 'project' >> DOS\HELP - all help files >> DOS\NLS- national language support files >> DOS\SOURCE\project - source code for 'project' > >S

Re: [Freedos-devel] re:Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
.. > >I keep my binary files inside BIN of PGnnn.ZIP now, it >looks like I ought to drop the BIN directory to align >with your idea, give me a 'yes' please. > >> >> Eric. > >BAHCL > Not if you are only doing it for distribution package reasons, otherwise go ahead. While I encourage all maintain

Re: [Freedos-devel] re:Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
> >Hi, to answer your question: > >> DOS\HELP - all help files > >This contains only files which are called "project.*", like >"project" or "project.cn" or "project.es" or "project.htm" ... >Actually the CURRENT way is even simpler: > >DOS\HELP\ contains files which are called "project"

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't you think its better to use Msdos file names?

2004-02-24 Thread Steffen Kaiser
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Jim Hall wrote: > > I would prefer a C:\DOS directory with all exacutables inside. Users > > will feel more confortable with it ;-) > > My thought would be to put them inside C:\DOS as subdirs. > > Note that the install dir from the install program would need to use > C:\DOS a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: UDMA as base?

2004-02-24 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:49:27 -0300, Alain wrote: Well now let's consider which UDMA or UUDMA to use? I allways understood that the most up-to-date and more frequently updated is UUDMA? Am I correct or not? Both ways, the version to include in 'base' should be selected by LUCHO... There is nothing