Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/5/2015 6:14 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > Bringing things back to reality: > > Options 1, 2, and 3 do not exist and are not likely to exist for a few > years even after somebody actively starts working on them. > > Options 1 and 2 can not promise "100% compatibility with both DOS > applicatio

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Brutman
Bringing things back to reality: Options 1, 2, and 3 do not exist and are not likely to exist for a few years even after somebody actively starts working on them. Options 1 and 2 can not promise "100% compatibility with both DOS applications and the full range of PC hardware" when they are not ev

Re: [Freedos-devel] LOCK and multiuser

2015-01-05 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Hello,Jim!Sorry about the lack of specifics,but I was doing other things when I fired off the email.Anyway,how the multi-user system works is mostly like this (I'm still developing it,so the finished product won't be EXACTLY like this probably) 1.The user turns on the computer,which boots into Free

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Jose Antonio Senna
On january 4 Jim Hall said: > "FreeDOS 1.2" should be an update/refresh from >FreeDOS 1.1. > No major changes. Improved installer is a good idea. I must say I never used the installer, so I don't know whether it can be improved. > "FreeDOS 2.0" should be 16-bit. Make FreeDOS feel more > m

Re: [Freedos-devel] drives.exe

2015-01-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > Thanks for that! I wasn't aware :) I wasn't sure either, but apparently that's their bug, so we can't really fix it. > By the way.. how does one pronounce your name? I'm imagining something like > "Rug-zoo-low"? Roo-JEW-lo (red gu

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Expounding a bit on all the options and variations which have been presented in this 32- vs. 16-bit debate: 1 - Two separate kernels (one 16-bit and one 32-bit) with a mechanism which auto-detects what CPU it's running on and launches the appropriate kernel automatically. Maintains 100% hardware a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Jim hall's decisions on 1.2 and 2.0 roadmaps

2015-01-05 Thread sparky4
+1 100% "I'm traveling, and likely won't be able to check email again or update the roadmap on the wiki until Wednesday. With a few disagreements, it looks like the consensus remains this: *- "FreeDOS 1.2" should be an update/refresh from FreeDOS 1.1. No major changes. Improved installer is a go

Re: [Freedos-devel] drives.exe

2015-01-05 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Thanks for that! I wasn't aware :) By the way.. how does one pronounce your name? I'm imagining something like "Rug-zoo-low"? On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Mercury Thirteen > wrote: > > > > Jim, I think I broke the link you posted in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Travis Siegel
+1 On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:27 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > I'm traveling, and likely won't be able to check email again or update the > roadmap on the wiki until Wednesday. With a few disagreements, it looks > like the consensus remains this: > > > *- "FreeDOS 1.2" should be an update/refresh from FreeDO

Re: [Freedos-devel] drives.exe

2015-01-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > Jim, I think I broke the link you posted in the News section of FreeDOS.org. > Per your suggestion the archive is now called drives11.zip. FYI, this appears to be a quirk (bug) of SourceForge. It doesn't update the news properly onc

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Travis Siegel
Nobody says you gotta run a 32-bit version of dos on a system that isn't 32-bit. What's wrong with just leaving the version that's already running there, and just use the 32-bit version on 386+ machines. Nobody said the current version would disappear just because a 32-bit version shows up. St

Re: [Freedos-devel] Trying to get TVision to work on OW

2015-01-05 Thread Louis Santillan
On Monday, January 5, 2015, Rugxulo wrote: [SNIP] > > One tool in particular, which maybe you forgot about, not that I ever > tested it, is Blair's old port of *nix "Dialog": > > http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/message/21584451/ > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/ut

Re: [Freedos-devel] Trying to get TVision to work on OW

2015-01-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Jim, I haven't read the other thread yet, so I'm not sure what you've done so far. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> P.S. You might do better with TxWin (LGPL, C), which does explicitly >> support DOS via OW: http://tr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-01-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:59 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: > > Hello,everyone!I am creating a new security feature for the new > distribution.It is a password lockout,and can only be unlocked by the > same computer.(Meaning that you cant unlock it on another > computer). For comparison, I jus

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Tibor Vidók
Hi Or let te user to decide to load the 32bit/i386 driver or not. The marketting question is: why is it more than a new, yet another extender. If decided not to load, it is 100 backward compatible both from hw and sw point of view. Br, Tibi --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Mercury Thirteen
+1 +1 +1 :) However... I just wanted to point out that - if my grasp on technology is adequate - going 32-bit need not break either hardware or software compatibility, since the kernel could detect which CPU on which it is running and either shift into protected mode or stay in real mode accordin

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Hi, Florian! I totally agree, but the only problem is that Japheth seems to be gone. :( On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Florian Xaver wrote: > Hi all! > > I want to add my thoughts to Tom’s e-mail: I think that the first step to > a 32-bit version of FreeDOS has already be done! > > It’s calle

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

2015-01-05 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi all! I want to add my thoughts to Tom’s e-mail: I think that the first step to a 32-bit version of FreeDOS has already be done! It’s called JEMM and HX DOS Extender (http://web.archive.org/web/20140905021040/http://www.japheth.de/) You can even run some Windows programs.  Using mo