Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-19 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi, Jim Hall escribió: There is exactly one copyright holder - and I don't need written agreement from him. I assume you mean yourself? Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he wrote several files from scratch? Or perhaps Henrique Peron, the original author? What about Pat Villani, who wrot

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:12:41 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he wrote several files from scratch? several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB, should he ask me. As an active Linux developer he probably doesn't care, and even if it does this,

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Jim, JH> Yes, looks like BG. Looking at the mkeyb 0.40 zip file: right - he provided 2 bulgarian layouts. >> >> JH> Or perhaps Henrique Peron, the original author? >> there never was, is, or will ever be a single line from henrique >> peron. stop dreaming. JH> Comments in the code imply o

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
Bart, BO> Who can sue Tom for changing the license? The copyright holders. There aren't any. contributing to a project doesn't mean you get a copyright. BO> Will they BO> sue Tom? They'll have a tough time in court (because the contributions BO> are minor and close to fair use) only 'close' to fa

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
tom ehlert wrote: Hello Jim, JH> I assume you mean yourself? Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he JH> wrote several files from scratch? several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB, should he ask me. Yes, looks like BG. Looking at the mkeyb 0.40 zip file: /* keydefbg.h

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote: > JH> What about Pat Villani, who wrote prf.c and portab.h? > this prf.c was written by the author of mkeyb, NOT pat villani. yes, prf.c was completely recoded in the early days I started maintaining the kernel. It's had some more updates from me in the kern

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Jim, JH> I assume you mean yourself? Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he JH> wrote several files from scratch? several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB, should he ask me. JH> Or perhaps Henrique Peron, the original author? there never was, is, or will ever be

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Мар-2004 08:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >>Don't know if Bart has a TC/BC license; else all old kernels (compiled >>with TC), are illegal, too. MD> Shhh! The Borland Compliance Engineer may hear you. I wonder how one goes MD> about getting a complianc

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
Steve, >> AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to >> 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled programs, >>you have to buy a license' SNUW> Someone asked what they meant and they said it simply meant you can't SNUW> redistribute the compiler. (This wa

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
tom ehlert wrote: MKEYB 0.40 released changes: now uses APACK for 200 byte smaller executable licensing changed to allow distribution of APACK'ed executables JH> What you have indicated in your release is that you modified the license JH> to allow distribution of the aPack'ed binary. However, yo

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote: > >> Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of > >> watcom). > > LG> ...and the Borland Museum compilers. > > AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to > 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compil

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 17-Мар-2004 08:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MKEYB 0.40 released As sayed Lucho there is 0.39. JH> I think there's a problem here. If you recall the discussion with Dave JH> Turner (FSF), he said: I heard that you were considerin

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze
tom ehlert wrote: AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled programs, you have to buy a license' Someone asked what they meant and they said it simply meant you can't redistribute the compiler. (This was on their

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:56 PM 3/18/2004 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: >>> Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of >>> watcom). > >LG> ...and the Borland Museum compilers. > >AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to > 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute comp

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
>> Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of >> watcom). LG> ...and the Borland Museum compilers. AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled programs, you have to buy a license' Unfor

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:28:16 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: Even flash disks allocate space on a sector base, so Bart's point is valid. Yes, but (1) sector size may be only 128 bytes in a ROM-disk, and (2) it may be compressed through LHA (used for Award BIOS modules) so unused spaces vanish and only

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Johnson, >>I wonder why you'd want to save 200 bytes anyway, when the disk space used >>is exactly the same (8002 -> 7802, both 16 sectors)? JL> Lucho may want to squeeze the program into a flash disk or ROM, that's JL> why every byte is precious. Even flash disks allocate space on a sector

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread Johnson Lam
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:33:15 + (GMT), you wrote: Hi Bart, >> Great! But when I downloaded it, it turned out to be... the old version >> (0.39)! :-( > >I wonder why you'd want to save 200 bytes anyway, when the disk space used >is exactly the same (8002 -> 7802, both 16 sectors)? Lucho may wa

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread tom ehlert
>> MKEYB 0.40 released >> ... LG> Great! But when I downloaded it, it turned out to be... the old version LG> (0.39)! :-( Don't know why it wasn't uploaded, but now it is. You may have to refresh your browsers cache, otherwise you might still get the old version. BO> I wonder why you'd want to s

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread tom ehlert
>> MKEYB 0.40 released >> changes: >> now uses APACK for 200 byte smaller executable >> licensing changed to allow distribution of APACK'ed executables JH> What you have indicated in your release is that you modified the license JH> to allow distribution of the aPack'ed binary. However, you need

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 17-Мар-2004 08:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> MKEYB 0.40 released As sayed Lucho there is 0.39. JH> I think there's a problem here. If you recall the discussion with Dave JH> Turner (FSF), he said: >> I heard that you were considering a proprietary exec

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:54:16 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > > > MKEYB 0.40 released > > website http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.htm > > download http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.zip > > > > changes: > > now uses APACK for 200 byte sma

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:54:16 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: MKEYB 0.40 released website http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.htm download http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.zip changes: now uses APACK for 200 byte smaller executable licensing changed to allow distribution of APACK'ed execut

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread Jim Hall
tom ehlert wrote: Hi all, MKEYB 0.40 released website http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.htm download http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.zip changes: now uses APACK for 200 byte smaller executable licensing changed to allow distribution of APACK'ed executables Tom, I think there'

[Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-17 Thread tom ehlert
Hi all, MKEYB 0.40 released website http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.htm download http://www.drivesnapshot.de/freedos/mkeyb.zip changes: now uses APACK for 200 byte smaller executable licensing changed to allow distribution of APACK'ed executables tom -