[Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-23 Thread perditionc
Hello all, I thought some of you might enjoy this (others may really dislike it). Link is to a (posted to YouTube) about 2 minute video of (version 2043+patches) FreeDOS kernel running Windows 3.1 in Enhanced and Standard mode. I haven't pushed the changes to the public GitHub repository yet as t

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
Awesome! This is perhaps the last big feature DR-DOS and PC-DOS had over FreeDOS. July 24, 2021 6:03 AM, perditi...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello all, > > I thought some of you might enjoy this (others may really dislike it). > Link is to a (posted to YouTube) about 2 minute video of (version > 2043

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
This is awesome! :D Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, July 24th, 2021 at 2:01 AM, wrote: > Hello all, > > I thought some of you might enjoy this (others may really dislike it). > > Link is to a (posted to YouTube) about 2 minute video of (version

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jeremy, does that mean the unstable kernel already supported Win 3.1 386enh? Cool to know :-) How about Windows for Workgroups in 386 mode, which is "non safe mode" there, so features are lost without it in WfW 3.11? Thanks for cherry-picking all the relevant patches! I guess the FDPP kerne

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Volkert via Freedos-devel
Great work Jeremy! 😃 Watching your YouTube video, I noticed the FreeDOS VM booting with Microsoft EMM386. And that makes sense, since JEMM386 currently doesn't support GEMMIS, a standard required for by Win3.x and Win9x for memory management handover from the EMM manager to the Windows kernel as i

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread perditionc
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 6:43 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Jeremy, > > does that mean the unstable kernel already supported Win 3.1 386enh? > Yes, but it didn't work as well for running a dos prompt, 1st character typed was lost and possibly other issues > Cool to know :-) How about Windows for Wo

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, Eric Auer wrote: I see you are using the Microsoft HIMEM 3.07 (02/14/92), Microsoft EMM386 4.44 (1991) and Microsoft SMARTDRV, are all of those actually necessary? I would expect things to also work with HIMEMX or XMGR, as long as no free EMM386 is loaded at all? Why do you

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Steve Nickolas
Followup to my last comment, since I actually went and checked. On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, Steve Nickolas wrote: For what it's worth, Windows 3.x comes with its own versions of HIMEM and SMARTDRV. I *think* it also comes with EMM386, but I'm not so sure about that one. Have to check my setup disks

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Volkert via Freedos-devel
> > I think Windows' 386 mode is pretty heavily tied into undocumented > features of EMM386 when it is active, so it wouldn't surprise me if a free > version of EMM386 made it go down in flames. > See my earlier reply about the lack of support for the GEMMIS spec in JEMM386. Windows 3.x in 386 En

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-26 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 15:29, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > For what it's worth, Windows 3.x comes with its own versions of HIMEM and > SMARTDRV. I *think* it also comes with EMM386, but I'm not so sure about > that one. It did, yes, and IIRC there were problems and/or warnings if you used older DO

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-26 Thread Aitor Santamaría
That is very good news IMHO, Jeremy!! Sure a thing to wait for, for FreeDOS 1.3 release. I think it is a meaningful milestone (even if there is not many people running Win3.X that wouldn't do it over MS-DOS), but very relevant all the same. All the best, Aitor On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 08:02, wr

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-26 Thread perditionc
Hello everyone, So it took me a bit longer than I planned, but below is the information needed to reproduce and links to sources. (Be kind, I know that the code needs more work.) To see it in action, from installing FreeDOS & Windows to running I posted an updated the video (about 4 minutes, spe

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-26 Thread Eric Auer
Hello Jeremy, > Eric who's original research helped with the initial > implementation of the necessary patches a decade ago > (https://web.archive.org/web/20061001224249/http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/win3.x-dosext-freedos-notes.txt) Wow that was from 2004 :-o The cur

Re: [Freedos-devel] video FreeDOS running Windows 3.1

2021-07-27 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jeremy, others, > Kernel patches - http://server2.fdos.org/tests/kernel-win3-patch.diff > rest of sources (kernel, FreeCOM, format, fdisk, sys, share, edit) - > https://github.com/fdos I have been browsing those patches a bit. So I can share some insights about them, also implying many quest