On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:16:00 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
If I remember correctly, FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in size.
Where might I read up on that info?
Microsoft have stated that the minimum is even 256 MB (in
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/articles/901Jan/Fat3
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13-Мар-2004 20:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to ark:
EA> Sorry, interesting statistics about those compilers, but THAT will not
EA> hit a cluster size multiple very soon anyway. If you want < 3k instead of
EA> 3.9k you better write it all in Asm :-).
Let me explain: size reduct
Luchezar,
> In any case, ZIP disks must be formatted with FAT16 and nothing else.
>
Yep, just had the link to Iomega stating that sent to me.
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12-Мар-2004 21:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Arkady V.Belousov":
JL> I tried the only updating the boot sector using FreeDOS' SYS and got;
JL> D:\Download\FreeDOS>sys X: BOOTONLY
JL> FreeDOS System Installer v2.9, Sep 24 2003
JL> Processing boot sector...
JL> R
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12-Мар-2004 20:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Arkady V.Belousov":
>> This is FAT16, so FAT size here should be 190 sectors.
JL> Hmmm, THAT particular disk should have been FAT32or I got confused.
This disk (with such clusters count) can't be FAT32.
>>
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13-Мар-2004 15:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to ark:
JL> Attached is [misc.zip]
JL> File notes from Jim Lilly;
JL> RSLT_SR6 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results
Looks valid and workable.
JL> RSLT_16 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results
Looks like there is problems: OS says that FAT
Arkady,
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K379136B7
" Should I format my Jaz or Zip disk with FAT32?
Answer
Iomega® does not support nor recommend the use of FAT32 formatting
with Zip® or Jaz® disks.
Warning: Data integrity maybe an issue using FAT32 formatting. Iomega
recommends formatting Z
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14-Мар-2004 14:33 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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JL>> Attached is [misc.zip]
JL>> File notes from Jim Lilly;
JL>> RSLT_SR6 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results
__O\_/_\_/O__
Checking drive C:
Reading default BPB...
[...]
Volume
you can't use SYS (and any other programs, which directly access disks)
under NT/2k/XP.
You may access a floppy drive though. I have successfully run "SYS A:"
from Windows 2003.
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Arkady,
> Which OS you was use for tests?
>
FreeDOS
> Which software you use to prepare
> (format) these ZIP diskettes?
>
WinXP Pro initially, SpinRite for the one ZIP disk.
> Also, disk geometry in boot record differs from one, reported by OS.
> This is, probably, not very important (in given c
Arkady,
> - v2.9 is outdated (old kernel).
>
Might be, but it's what's on.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/beta
9rc4/fdbootcd.zip
Also note; THAT CD of FreeDOS did NOT 'see' anything but the CDROM & Floppy
drivesno ZIP, no HD.
> - You can't use SYS
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:55:10 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
[...] SpinRite which uses FreeDOS incorrectly
'claims' to have successfully formatted such FAT32 ZIP-100 disks.yet
fail to boot. THAT is the focal point of troubles with FreeDOS I'm
having.
SpinRite uses FreeDOS for it's formatting functions
Luchezar,
> FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why
> don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first?
>
I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only sees A:
& the CDROM. Therefore FreeDOS won't allow me to do anything to my ZIP drive.
> By
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:32:47 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer.
Why don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first?
I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only
sees A: & the CDROM. Therefore FreeDOS won't allow me to
Luchezar,
> Have you tried such a driver in MS-DOS or FreeDOS?
>
I'll setup a DOS bootdisk as such.
How is such done with a FreeDOS boot floppy?
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:15:30 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
Luchezar,
No need to send me a carbon copy, I'm subscribed here.
Have you tried such a driver in MS-DOS or FreeDOS?
I'll setup a DOS bootdisk as such.
How is such done with a FreeDOS boot floppy?
ODIN is already bootable (see FreeDOS site for its
Tell me what to test
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14-Мар-2004 07:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Arkady V.Belousov":
Not needed to CC for me, I subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Which OS you was use for tests?
JL> FreeDOS
Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify this,
may th
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:42:11 -, James Stockton wrote:
>Tell me what to test
>
And another! Not Iomega Zip/JazzFAT32 issues were
mentioned. Please say required Kernel, etc.
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Hi all,
Some of you here are working on boot sectors and related stuff.
Today I learned about a fact that I didn't know about, which you can
consider interesting -- of course, if you didn't know it before.
It is known that hard disk partitions starting beyond 1024th cylinder
may be non-bootable,
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14-Мар-2004 20:47 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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AVB> Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify
AVB> this, may this is expected behavior.
---^^^ may be
AVB> Do you mean, that
AVB> - XP formats to FAT16 and makes bootable: diskette boot
Whats me choice of kernels ?
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:47:44 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
Which OS you was use for tests?
FreeDOS
Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify this,
maybe this is expected behavior.
What we're talking about here? Does the bootstrap from FreeDOS fail? If
so, it's bec
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14-Мар-2004 05:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Arkady V.Belousov":
JL> " Should I format my Jaz or Zip disk with FAT32?
JL> Answer
JL> Iomegaо does not support nor recommend the use of FAT32 formatting
JL> with Zipо or Jazо disks.
Jaz diskettes are 1 and 2
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14-Мар-2004 20:47 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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AVB> Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel.
Ops, sorry, too husty conlusion: BOOTFIX analyzes _default_ BPB, which
is _suggestion_ by OS for given media. Boot record should be compared with
"current BPB", which is used by OS
Luchezar,
> You need to make a CONFIG.SYS (device=iomega_driver_name)
>
Will do.
> (Do you mean that IOMEGA still really support DOS??? ;-)
>
Nothing NEW, but older DOS/Win 3.1 drivers for 'guest' are available in
their archives.
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Luchezar,
> Does the bootstrap from FreeDOS fail? If
> so, it's because of the bad boot sector.
>
Exactly!
> If
> so, it's because of the bad boot sector. Does FORMAT under FreeDOS fail?
> No!
>
Undetermined, not "No!" But I'll check.
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Arkady,
> Moreover, if MS-FORMAT allows to format 100 Mb as FAT32 (and
> XP works with it flawlessly?), then this should be accepted by us also.
>
But it doesn't work 'flawlessly'. I can read/write/copy/move/delete to -
from a ZIP-100 FAT32 disk, but it is NOT bootable.
> Do you mean, that
>
> -
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14-Мар-2004 08:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Luchezar Georgiev:
>> FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why
>> don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first?
JL> I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only
Arkady,
> 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net)
>
Hmm, when I go to http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ I'm presented with a
bunch of choices. Do you mean for me to get;
kernel 2032?
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=312180
kernel 2033?
http://prd
Arkady,
> But earlier you say, that you test BOOTFIX under FreeDOS and access Zip
> as C:?
>
Probably when I'd used SR, booted off it, then switched diskettes.
I'm beginning to get a bit overwhelmed with all of this. Maybe I'll
tinker around some more tonight, before giving up.
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I'm trying out the nightly kernel, not sure if thats what they mean. But its
worth a look i think.
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:42:13 -, James Stockton wrote:
>I'm trying out the nightly kernel, not sure if thats what they
mean.
>But its worth a look i think.
As soon as I can get to it, will be using
2.0.33
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freedos/ke2033_32.zip?download
Trying to get the Net-
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14-Мар-2004 13:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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>> 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net)
JL> kernel 2033?
Yes. Also, there was some changes in kernel. AFAIK, Luchezar presents
precompiled kernels with all up to date patche
Tested fat32 booting on me hard drive works fine.
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Next version of BOOTFIX (1.2) placed on site of Michael Devore
(ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/bootf12.zip). You may use this
utility at least to view drives properties, but it also diagnoses the
properties if they are valid.
In next versions will be addeded support to readi
Hi, I think we should be able to boot from ZIP FAT32 if BIOS can boot
from it as a normal int 13h device. After all, default BPB = FAT16 while
actual BPB = FAT32 does NOT mean that FAT32 is generally broken. It only
means that the partition table is wrong and marks the partition as FAT16.
Whateve
Arkady,
> About making FAT32 Zip diskette bootable:
>
> 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net).
> 2. apply SYS to diskette (under latest kernel).
> 3. try to boot.
>
I got kernel 2033_32 and used INSTALL.BAT to create a FreeDOS bootable
floppy. Altered CONFIG.
Eric,
> I think we should be able to boot from ZIP FAT32
>
We can! We can!!!
See my latest reply to Arkady.
Off to do a happy dance!!!
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All,
Thanks for your help everyone, in getting this nailed down!!!
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