Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-08-01 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: No change with this version...system hangs on vol c: with VDS option, works without. Mark Bailey > At 03:38 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: > > >I see no difference at all with that version, either with the > >development kernel/command.com or the stable kernel/ > >command.c

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-08-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Devore schreef: At 08:07 PM 8/1/2005 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: either this is to scare non-technical people away (invalid URL) or you're spending too much time in DOS :) ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 Both styles work in IE and Firefox. Logs show browsers are how 90% of

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-08-01 Thread Michael Devore
At 08:07 PM 8/1/2005 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: either this is to scare non-technical people away (invalid URL) or you're spending too much time in DOS :) ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 Both styles work in IE and Firefox. Logs show browsers are how 90% of people get the files. Wh

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-08-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Devore schreef: Specifically, with device=a:\himem.exe device=a:\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds Alright, one more time. I rewrote the VDS routines such that any reserved function which was unused (0, 1, 0dh-0ffh) no longer returns an error code, but simply sets carry flag and chains

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-08-01 Thread Michael Devore
At 03:38 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: I see no difference at all with that version, either with the development kernel/command.com or the stable kernel/ command.com. Specifically, with device=a:\himem.exe device=a:\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds vol c: hangs. Remove vds, it works no

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-31 Thread Bernd Blaauw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Hi Michael: I dual or triple boot all of my machines and routinely switch from DOS to WindowsXP and back. So, this makes sense. Mark, I booted with HIMEM and EMM386 (+VDS parameter) now (Michael's COW test version), but without DOS=HIGH, without DOS=UMB, and withou

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-31 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: I dual or triple boot all of my machines and routinely switch from DOS to WindowsXP and back. So, this makes sense. Frankly, XP makes for a more convenient Web and e-mail interface (IMHO! :-)). So, during much, even most, of my testing, I boot XP a lot...sometimes just to copy som

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-31 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Devore schreef: At 04:05 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark wrote: If you want to try this test version of EMM386, Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com\downloads\emm386 and download emmcow.zip. It should fix your page frame feedback problem. Very much doubt it affects your VDS situation, but you can g

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-31 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 30-Июл-2005 04:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: MD> After bootup, type debug to run DEBUG.EXE. At debug prompt, type d 0:12c MD> and press enter. MD> There will be a display of 2-digit hex numbers, the first line lists four MD> of them.

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-30 Thread Michael Devore
At 04:05 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark wrote: Hi Michael: Well, the E000 message is repeatable on this box... Found that problem. A matter of the EMS routines not properly reporting failure to locate a suitable page frame. Instead they fell through and reported the default page frame. I suppo

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-30 Thread Michael Devore
At 09:32 PM 7/30/2005 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: 1) harddisk present, but unpartitioned and not formatted d 0:12C U 0307:0145 U 0307:0180 output: MOV BYTE PTR CS:[0084],00 CMP AL,02 JZ 01E1 You're not using test EMM386 is what that indicates. No test for AL equal to zero, as was added. The

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-30 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Devore schreef: Well, we can check if your VDS vector is okay pretty easily. Try this with the test EMM386 using VDS option. Don't type VOL first to crash things or load UDMA. After bootup, type debug to run DEBUG.EXE. At debug prompt, type d 0:12c and press enter. debugging on t

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-30 Thread Michael Devore
At 04:05 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark wrote: Well, the E000 message is repeatable on this box... Thanks again for all of your help! Well, we can check if your VDS vector is okay pretty easily. Try this with the test EMM386 using VDS option. Don't type VOL first to crash things or load UDMA.

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: Well, the E000 message is repeatable on this box... Thanks again for all of your help! Mark > At 03:38 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: > > >Specifically, with > >device=a:\himem.exe > >device=a:\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds > > > >vol c: hangs. Remove vds, it works norma

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 03:38 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: Specifically, with device=a:\himem.exe device=a:\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds vol c: hangs. Remove vds, it works normally. (development) With stable kernel, I get screenfulls of garbage I can't read (no newlines) with VDS, normal operation wit

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: OK, I have done so. The new version still reports version 2.04, July 6, 2005, but is much larger! I see no difference at all with that version, either with the development kernel/command.com or the stable kernel/ command.com. Specifically, with device=a:\himem.exe device=a:\emm386.e

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 03:07 AM 7/30/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: VOL C: works normally. Without device=a:\udma2.sys, vol c: hangs and forces a reboot. (That's the old behavior which I checked to make sure of the test case). This does not appear to be a seperate issue. Actually it muddies the waters by intro

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread kd4d
Hi Bernd: OK, back to development kernel, development command.com, UDMA2 V2.5. With config.sys: device=a:\himem.exe device=a:\udma2.sys device=a:\emm386.exe x=test memcheck vds VOL C: works normally. Without device=a:\udma2.sys, vol c: hangs and forces a reboot. (That's the old behavior which

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Devore schreef: Different issue entirely. Don't know what's going on in VMware, it may just not like VDS. very probably, yes, Michael. Mark, can you try loading UDMA2.SYS anyway (in front of EMM386)? DEVICE=HIMEM.EXE DEVICE=UDMA2.SYS DEVICE=EMM386.EXE VDS other_options if that works,

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 10:05 PM 7/29/2005 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Michael Devore schreef: Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download Let me know if that fixes or modifies the current behavior with VDS parameter. no change in VMware Workstation 4.5.2 (PC emulator, Intel P4 processor) booting

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Devore schreef: Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download Let me know if that fixes or modifies the current behavior with VDS parameter. no change in VMware Workstation 4.5.2 (PC emulator, Intel P4 processor) booting from BIOS directly to harddisk. Maybe a floppy wou

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:58 PM 7/29/2005 -0400, Mark wrote: Does this provide a means of easily identifying the affected machines? How do I check the Haunted HP Pavilion? :-) Here's what to do: Go to ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386 and download EMMBLORT.ZIP. Try that version of EMM386.EXE with your m

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Mark Bailey
Hi Michael: Does this provide a means of easily identifying the affected machines? How do I check the Haunted HP Pavilion? :-) Mark Michael Devore wrote: At 12:42 PM 7/29/2005 -0500, I wrote: Ha! That's it. Some SCSI BIOS uses INT 4BH. It must be passing the register value that VDS inter

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:42 PM 7/29/2005 -0500, I wrote: Ha! That's it. Some SCSI BIOS uses INT 4BH. It must be passing the register value that VDS interprets as a VDS function, which means AH = 81h. Hmm, let me look things over to see if there's a way to resolve the conflict by further determining the diffe

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 10:13 AM 7/29/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: This appears to be the same bug that caused FDISK to wipe out the MBR, so it at least appears that just initializing the VDS functions is trashing something in memory. No such thing. VDS functions just are, they don't initialize. Only thing th

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-29 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael: Well, what's trying to use it is the FreeCOM VOL command! (Or something else in FreeCOM). I doubt that there are any explicit calls to VDS functions there. The kernel may be more likely. This appears to be the same bug that caused FDISK to wipe out the MBR, so it at least appears th

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-28 Thread Michael Devore
At 11:53 PM 7/28/2005 +, Mark wrote: Do I need VDS? :-) What does it do? How can I help identify the problem? I do have the Haunted HP Pavilion (TM)! Turn it off if everything works without it. It's just for upper memory reporting of true physical address instead of logical address f

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-28 Thread kd4d
Hi Bernd et al: I wish to thank all of you again for the wonderful support and help! I have been amazed at the responsiveness of the FreeDOS community! Back with the haunted HP Pavilion (TM). Development kernel, sys, and command.com from fdos.org/kernel. EMM386.EXE and HIMEM.SYS from emm204x.zi

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-28 Thread kd4d
Hi Michael, et al: OK, I am back with the Haunted HP Pavilion (TM). Downloaded development kernel, command.com, and sys.com from fdos.org/kernel. Downloaded emm204x and extracted himem.exe and emm386.exe. Did a SYS: on a USB floppy from WindowsXP. Copied a random version of edit.com on the flo

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-28 Thread Bernd Blaauw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Hello all: As I mentioned before, remove the VDS parameter and see if things go better then. VMware suffers from incompatibility with the VDS parameter, maybe your system also. Maybe even a lot of systems, but that's a wild guess. IF things fail even without the V

Re: [Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-27 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:22 AM 7/28/2005 +, Mark Bailey wrote: Help! How do I start to debug this?!?! This is the same machine which has FDISK overwriting the partition table whenever it is run with EMM386. Exclude all high memory via X=A000-EFFF and add NOEMS option. Those two options only, unless your

[Freedos-user] VOL Command hangs HP Pavilion with EMM386

2005-07-27 Thread kd4d
Hello all: OK, now that I've at least identified the FDISK problem, and solved the DIR divide by zero problem, I need to work on why FreeDOS doesn't boot and/or run stably on many computers. Fortunately, I have the Haunted HP Pavilion. I have a repeateable problem with the VOL command built into