Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-05-02 Thread Douglas Greve
oh, that must of been it. I did not keep edits in brainmask On 5/1/17 4:39 PM, Antonin Skoch wrote: Doug, did you process from scratch or did you retain edits to brainmask.mgz and wm.mgz? The -cubic should not be necessary, since recon-all (which I primarily obtained from https://surfer.n

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-05-02 Thread Antonin Skoch
Doug, I tried to replicate again v5.3 results of subject 1. I checked wm.mgz, orig.mgz, ?h.orig, ?h.pial, ?h.white and found everything identical (by using mri_diff and mris_diff) except FLAIR.mgz and ?h.pial (after FLAIRpial refinement). The difference was small, I have traced it to the level

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-05-01 Thread Antonin Skoch
Doug, did you process from scratch or did you retain edits to brainmask.mgz and wm.mgz? The -cubic should not be necessary, since recon-all (which I primarily obtained from https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0-patch/ has UseCubic=1 ). I could try to replicate v5.3 agai

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-05-01 Thread Douglas Greve
It is subject #1, trying to replicate in our version of 5.3 using the scripts/recon-all.local-copy ./recon-all.local-copy -all -FLAIRpial -s 1.dng.v53.local-cubic -cubic The results were close, but they were not exact On 5/1/17 4:13 PM, Antonin Skoch wrote: Dear Doug, that is strange. What

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-05-01 Thread Antonin Skoch
Dear Doug, that is strange. What precisely you cannot replicate? The results with v5.3 or with v6.0? What subject from the group I uploaded you have tried? I could try to run the comparison again but I have seen the results already in many subjects and the difference between -cubic and no cubic

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-05-01 Thread Douglas N Greve
I can't seem to replicate your results locally, even with the recon-all you used. The one thing I'm missing is the expert options file. Can you send that to me? On 04/24/2017 12:49 PM, Antonin Skoch wrote: > Dear Doug, > > the subject with leak of white surface outside brain (my first post with

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-24 Thread Antonin Skoch
Dear Doug, the subject with leak of white surface outside brain (my first post with screenshots) is subject 1. Slice number (coronal) around 100. The subject in second post (with text below) is subject 2, slice number (coronal) also 100. I have processed the subjects with v 6.0 (in fact dev ver

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-24 Thread Douglas N Greve
And what slice number? On 04/24/2017 11:16 AM, Douglas N Greve wrote: > Anonin, of the three subjects you sent, which one is shown in these > pictures? > > > On 04/19/2017 05:23 PM, Antonin Skoch wrote: >> Dear experts, >> >> I am sending just one more example to illustrate issue with white >>

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
ffect ! I will try your suggestions and let you know. Antonin From: Bruce Fischl To: Antonin Skoch Cc: Sent: 4/21/2017 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast Hi Antonin Doug points out to me tha

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Antonin Skoch
.c I did not comprehend where the > basis of the issue lies, but in any case there are big differences in > mri_normalize.c code between versions. > > Antonin > > From: David Semanek > To: Antonin Skoch , "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" > > Sent: 4/20/2017 3:4

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
RROR BY RETURN E-MAIL AND DELETE THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEM.  Thank you for your cooperation.   From: Antonin Skoch Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM To: Subject: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast   Dear experts, I

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread David Semanek
ended filtration which affects GM/WM contrast. > > Looking at the source code of mri_normalize.c I did not comprehend where the > basis of the issue lies, but in any case there are big differences in > mri_normalize.c code between versions. > > Antonin >

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Antonin Skoch
t: Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast Agreed. A validated protocol run on a very large group of subjects in 5.3 was attempted with similar data in 6.0 and not only was the longitudinal edit stream nearly non-function

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
at 10:25 AM To: David Semanek , "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast   Dear David, thank you for the feedback; I saw your posts concerning edits and responded to them, see

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
e-mail.  PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY OF THE ERROR BY RETURN E-MAIL AND DELETE THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEM.  Thank you for your cooperation.   From: Antonin Skoch Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM To: Subject: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread David Semanek
case there are big differences in mri_normalize.c code between versions. Antonin From: David Semanek To: Antonin Skoch , "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" Sent: 4/20/2017 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Antonin if you upload this subject and give me the voxel coords of that location I'll take a look cheers Bruce On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Antonin Skoch wrote: > Dear experts, > > I am sending just one more example to illustrate issue with white surface > estimation in v6.0. See the attached scree

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread David Semanek
5:23 PM To: Subject: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast Dear experts, I am sending just one more example to illustrate issue with white surface estimation in v6.0. See the attached screenshots: In v6.0 there seems to be

Re: [Freesurfer] Worse determination of ?h.white with v6.0 in comparison to v5.3 - worse GM/WM contrast

2017-04-20 Thread Elijah Mak
Hi, I've also come across similar situations in my FS 6.0 dataset. I have tried tweaking the seg-wlo and seg-ghi values and these steps have led to marked improvements in some cases. Curious to hear from the FS team too. Thanks. Best Wishes, Elijah Elijah Mak, Research Associate Depar