Re: [FRIAM] Art is a Lie

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
Yes! There is no knowledge that is not potentially scientific knowledge. On Oct 17, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: I would like, if only as a matter of principle, to rise to the defense of all those techno-barbarians on the list who cannot find voice to defend themselves,

Re: [FRIAM] Art is a Lie

2010-10-17 Thread Nicholas Thompson
I would like, if only as a matter of principle, to rise to the defense of all those techno-barbarians on the list who cannot find voice to defend themselves, but I can only say that … IF there is something valuable in fiction, if it indeed fosters or transmits knowledge, Then fiction is

Re: [FRIAM] > Art is a Lie (er, and a soupçon of fiction)

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
Steve, Peter, et al et cetera- Art is a distillation. Art is a concentrate. Art helps us see the truth without the distractions. Been writing my artist statement for a big museum show (a group of eight of us, I am not alone) next year, and am full of Thought on this topic. So take this as yo

Re: [FRIAM] The Fractal Man is Gone....

2010-10-17 Thread Rich Murray
thanks, Benoit Mandelbrot, I bless you as a saint of mathematics -- you are forever timelessly free within and as single unified evolving fractal hyperinfinity... Rich - Original Message - From: "michael barron" To: "Rich Murray" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:57 AM Subject: Fwd

Re: [FRIAM] Art is a Lie

2010-10-17 Thread Steve Smith
Peter - Well said... and in a single short paragraph with a single eloquent quote... - Steve A’propos Ten Best Texts as fiction. I’m sure no one at Friam holds to the techno-barbarian view that nothing valuable can be gained from fiction. In my opinion the important human values can be ill

[FRIAM] Art is a Lie

2010-10-17 Thread plissaman
  A’propos Ten Best Texts as fiction.   I’m sure no one at Friam holds to the techno-barbarian view that nothing valuable can be gained from fiction.   In my opinion the important human values can be illuminated only by fiction.   After all, the King James Bible (1611) is about the best th

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Scott R. Powell
Excellent suggestion, nice food, nice people, reasonable prices. On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Jambo, in College Plaza, Between the Ace Hardware and the Office Whatever, > East African/Caribbean. > > -- rec -- > > >

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Roger Critchlow
Jambo, in College Plaza, Between the Ace Hardware and the Office Whatever, East African/Caribbean. -- rec -- FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, ma

Re: [FRIAM] Economy vs. ecology, er

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
Without wanting to start a long diatribe, I am curious how the group sees this: Is it really viable to say that economic systems are more complex and more differentiated than ecologic systems. ? Even to an amateur (moi, nodding to SAS) this seems unsubstantiated. Economic systems are within

Re: [FRIAM] Economy vs. ecology

2010-10-17 Thread Jochen Fromm
Both systems can be viewed as complex adaptive systems consisting of many interacting agents that adapt and learn from their interactions with one another: system: economic system - ecosystem agent: organism - company interaction: food webs - supply chains One major difference is perhaps what th

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
For casual dining, we've enjoyed Rooftop Pizzeria, Andiamo!, Harry's Roadhouse, 2nd St Brewery at the Railyard. Hope this helps. Thanks Robert On 10/17/10 10:35 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Hi, everybody. Sorry for this intrusion. I just got an urgent email from friends saying that they are

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Scott R. Powell
Should have read ahead. Good to hear. Scott On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Victoria Hughes wrote: > Il Piatto, definitely, and if they enjoy people, tell 'em to sit at the bar > (full service) and chat with Andrew, who will take good care of them. This > is not a spaghetti and pizza place, th

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Scott R. Powell
D'accord, La Plazuela is quite good, guacamole made table-side in the evening, excellent pork carnitas tacos. Not overly spicy. Nick, a year or two ago you asked the same question and I sent my list of restaurant recommendations. It still stands but *malheureusement* I deleted it. Perhaps your arc

Re: [FRIAM] "! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
ps: I eat at all of these regularly, so these are personal recommendations, as well as 'suggestions for visiting friends'. On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Victoria Hughes wrote: And one more post: elegant and tasty NM contemporary cuisine- SantaCafe Best Restaurant in Santa Fe – Santacafé al

Re: [FRIAM] "! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
And one more post: elegant and tasty NM contemporary cuisine- SantaCafe Best Restaurant in Santa Fe – Santacafé also a block north of the plaza, across from the federal building Tory On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Victoria Hughes wrote: For classic New Mexican, if they like a bit of a drive and

Re: [FRIAM] "! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
For classic New Mexican, if they like a bit of a drive and what the whole shebang, send them just north of the Opera to Gabriels for tableside guacamole, many margarita options, and classic NM scenery. May even still be warm enough to sit on their patio. Gabriel's Restaurant for Dining in Sa

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Victoria Hughes
Il Piatto, definitely, and if they enjoy people, tell 'em to sit at the bar (full service) and chat with Andrew, who will take good care of them. This is not a spaghetti and pizza place, this is a wonderful northern Italian place, with a good wine list, seafood, daily specials, wonderful at

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Tom Johnson
We find that the restaurant in La Fonda does a good job with New Mexican chow. -tj On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Nicholas Thompson < nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hi, everybody. Sorry for this intrusion. > > > > I just got an urgent email from friends saying that they are in Santa Fe

[FRIAM] The Fractal Man is Gone....

2010-10-17 Thread Stephen Thompson
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jeEofMMk2ALwd4B0N06yt80Ho3DA?docId=CNG.8b21ca4f0fe5ded152fb7235fcbc6338.6d1 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, arc

Re: [FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Dale Schumacher
http://pasquals.com/ 121 Don Gaspar, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 1 block south of the main plaza On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Hi, everybody.  Sorry for this intrusion. > > > > I just got an urgent email from friends saying that they are in Santa Fe for > a few da

[FRIAM] URGENT "URGENT!"! Restaurants in SF.

2010-10-17 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hi, everybody. Sorry for this intrusion. I just got an urgent email from friends saying that they are in Santa Fe for a few days and want recommendations for good local restaurants. I am a bad person to ask because I hate anything with chili peppers in it. Could you please help me out by se