Curt -
Faith: that the other drivers will stay on their side of the road.
I love this one... we all hurtle down the highway with order 4000lbs at
relative speeds of order 120mph, within feet if not inches of eachother,
trusting implicitely that we will not become kinetic energy bombs. Only
wh
I had been nicely ignoring this thread in the belief (faith?) that it would
go away without affecting me. Alas, the need for a distraction from grading
has drawn me back into its basin of (strange) attraction.
Faith: that the other drivers will stay on their side of the road. I don't
have to track
On 9/20/2012 11:22 AM, glen wrote:
The trouble is, as Eric has laid out nicely, one cannot infer the
father's intentions from his actions. All I know is he was chasing her.
I have no idea what he intended to do after he caught her or even if he
really wanted to catch her ... or just chaser her
wrt
> My history of modern philosophy is TERRIBLE but it seems to me that
> Descartes’s notion that a mind is the sort of thing that can be seen
> veridically only by the mind-holder leads to the calculus. Was my high
> school math teacher (who was also the football coach) correct to tell me
>
Steve,
As for the tongue in cheek, this is my best guess. Doug thought that Arlo's
statement was a reduction ad absurdum. In fact, it stated very clearly the
kind of thing I had in mind. You will pardon the expression. Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish
Arlo,
Yes and no. Yes, that is the general idea: When we start using psychological
terms, we are talking about some pattern of action-relative-to-the-world. If
that pattern is a function, then any given behavior akin to a point value
and/or the derivative at that point depending on how we want to l
found 1 chapter in this book online
http://www.sci.osaka-cu.ac.jp/~kawauchi/MindRelations.pdf
qv. http://www.sci.osaka-cu.ac.jp/~kawauchi/index.html
On 9/21/12, glen e. p. ropella wrote:
> Yep. I've already broached the subject with my county library. Their
> criteria center around whether the
Arlo,
Well, I am not really man enough to say anything like that, but if I were, I
think I would more likely say that feelings are the derivative of actions.
When we speak of intentions we are actually "instantiating" actions.
Velocity at an instant is a kind of non-sense which modern science
Yep. I've already broached the subject with my county library. Their
criteria center around whether the new thing (book, CD, whatever) would
be of use to the average library user. So, most of the stuff I want
doesn't qualify. Apparently math isn't very useful to my fellow
citizens. ;-)
But I m
FWIW Glen, you may find that your local library is willing to order any
book their patrons desire... Los Alamos (albeit a wealthy county) is
very generous about this... I get the impression that county/local
libraries are "desperate" to remain relevant and one method is to make
sure their patro
Are you talking about this one?
Qualitative Math for the Social Sciences
http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780415444828-1
$140 on amazon is still a little much for me. I'll see if any local
libraries carry it.
glen wrote at 09/20/2012 09:13 AM:
> Re: Lee's book: There are lots of framewor
http://xianblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/img_2244.jpg
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Perhaps (or perhaps not).
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
> A friend of mine gave me (at age 16) a placard which said:
>
> "*I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not
> sure that what you heard is what I meant"*
>
> Anytime someone's sentences com
A friend of mine gave me (at age 16) a placard which said:
"/I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm
not sure that what you heard is what I meant"/
Anytime someone's sentences come packed a bit too tight for me to unpack
easily or if I am confused or even offended
Nick
I'm glad you brought up a) Laws b) Protestant ideas in the context of faith.
AND
That you are still trying to define your beliefs..
I claim with some degree of certainty that at least 90% of the worlds
religions don't set down precisely and completely their "Laws" in the
form of "Rules"/ Bel
I nominate this for the coveted (yet prestigious) award of *FRIAM Sentence
of the Year*!
Seriously, this one sentence captures the essence of what it means to be on
this list. If it were allowed, I'd award extra points for it having been
delivered concisely, if not precisely.
Long-time members o
So if you are saying that actions are the derivative of feelings, because
feelings are [an interpretation of] a trend, does that mean all we have to
do to perceive intent is to find the integral of an action function,
indefinite as the result may be?
-Arlo James Barnes
=
The trouble is, as Eric has laid out nicely, one cannot infer the
father's intentions from his actions. All I know is he was chasing her.
I have no idea what he intended to do after he caught her or even if he
really wanted to catch her ... or just chaser her around a bit to show
her who's boss.
Depends: was he trying to force her into the Catholic "lick the whipped
cream off the priest's knees" ritual?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206008/Probe-launched-Polish-priest-gets-young-children-lick-whipped-cream-knee-creepy-school-initiation.html
If so, then definitely yes.
Otherwi
Well, it would be nice to answer that action on our personal moral
principles should cease, when it breaks the law.
The trouble is, there are laws and there are laws.
The Protestant idea that each of us has a direct and personal obligation to
the law, no matter what a duly appointed la
Policing the content of parental guidance given to children would be even
more fun than policing the uploads to YouTube.
I'd say focus on making child protective services do the job it's already
supposed to be doing, which is already one of the most difficult ones any
one has thought up.
-- rec -
Prof David West wrote at 09/20/2012 08:10 AM:
> The real interesting question to me - what is the boundary between a
> parents right to raise children in their faith and societies interest
> in establishing a threshold set of shared values and practices for
> acceptance into the society.
It seems
But, if this synthetic task is so difficult, what makes the
reductionists believe they're right? If nobody can actually build a
belief from a collection of actions, what trickiness or delusion allows
them to confidently assert that beliefs are actions? What (premature?)
conviction allows you to
Sarbajit Roy wrote at 09/19/2012 08:21 PM:
> (aside) In addition to my "faith" hat, I also have a
> "designer/manufacturer of programmable logic controller" hat.
I wish more people had those hats. I see lots of silly and useless hats
... I often feel like I live on the outskirts of a permanent fa
this is a complex (fidelity to the list topic) question - but there is
a lot of case law in the US dealing with exactly this issue - much of
it related to the Seventh Day Adventists. Some key points (that I did
not see addressed in the article) that would determine criminality
would be the age of
Ok, all of you "faith" proponents: at what point does practicing "faith"
cross the line and become criminally negligent?
Corollary question: at what point does adherence to religious faith cross
a moral boundary by allowing the practitioner to select comforting dogma
over moral obligation?
http
Glen says:
"I have to admit, this seems like a really difficult multi-objective
selection method. "
Yes, yes, yes! But, to stick with the analogy, it is not in-principle more
difficult than distinguishing chemical compounds. Admittedly, Chemistry had
quite a head start as a formal science. Howeve
27 matches
Mail list logo
