Re: [FRIAM] Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic

2017-01-29 Thread Frank Wimberly
New Mexico has three Air Force bases, two national labs, nuclear waste storage, and a pretty low income population. Forty percent of the State is on Medicaid and a lot of people pay little or nothing in Federal income taxes. Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jan 29, 2017 6:23 PM, "Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
2014 gross state products. California: $2.31 Trillion (#1) [Giver] Texas: $1.65 Trillion (#2) [Taker] New York: $1.40 Trillion (#3) [Giver] Kansas gross state product: $147 billion (# 31) [Giver] http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-gross-state-product/?currentTimeframe=0 From:

[FRIAM] Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic

2017-01-29 Thread Nick Thompson
This article has a lot of the data we are looking for. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers- and-which-are-takers/361668/ The correlation with "proportion votes for Hillary" is strong. Remarkably, KS is a donor state. Who would have thunk it.

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Gillian writes: "@Eric yeah see I was thinking that we have a wall of teleporters or those tubes from Ringworld. where you can go around the a planet. Have one that goes to Canada or Germanyy. (for example)" Up on stacks of cinder blocks or something, to form the walls. Lots of jobs

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Gillian Densmore
@Eric yeah see I was thinking that we have a wall of teleporters or those tubes from Ringworld. where you can go around the a planet. Have one that goes to Canada or Germanyy. (for example) On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > We could make it like a kind

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Eric Smith
We could make it like a kind of habitrail! Big above-ground people-pipelines to give people in the west-coast corridor access to Canada and Mexico, and to connect the various metropolises. > On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Owen, > > First the

Re: [FRIAM] [SPAM] Re: [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Eric Smith
Yes, Eric, good points to modify the claim, It returns the discussion to the acts one does or does not want to commit, rather than to defense of an icon-group against an enemy-group that both, at this stage, have been bleached of much of the complexity of real people and are more cartoon than

[FRIAM] And now for something different

2017-01-29 Thread Gillian Densmore
and gloriusly amusing: Politics today is a kind of like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8 1.

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Gillian Densmore
Yes but the question is will it be a Fire Wall ore IceWall or BeerWall. And will it actually be a wall? Or are we thinking about going StarTrek on this and making it just a inivisible block? Also Dad didn't you say you're stressed? Speaking as arguably the worlds leading authority on General

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Owen, First the Mexico wall. Then a wall to guard the good Americans from Washington, Oregon, California, and Nevada. Third a wall to isolate us from Canada. Fourth, a wall to isolate New England.So far that’s in the ballpark of 7K. Then add in walls to isolate Colorado, New Mexico,

[FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Owen Densmore
Weighing in at around 2K miles, it is so wimpy .. compared to China's *13K mile* wall. And it's even pretty and a tourist attraction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China Maybe he could get Disney to pay for it, with Hollywood pitching in for movie rights! So many things about

[FRIAM] California Could Cut Off Feds In Response To Trump Threats!

2017-01-29 Thread Owen Densmore
Ah, CA, already planning on how to deal with trump: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/01/27/california-could-cut-off-feds-in-response-to-trump-threats/ Here's the idea: SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) – The state of California is studying ways to suspend financial transfers to Washington after the

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Pamela: “But I don’t know if productivity of those 24/7 workers has been measured in a sound, qualitative way.” There is a certain euphoria in momentum even if it means long hours, especially if it is a task that is self-directed. Stopping hurts more than it helps. Days, weeks, months can

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi, Steve, In the end, as always, we seem to agree. I don't think of it as hand-wringing. Hand wringing is what liberals do. (};-/) I think of it as nudging.. Uh, noodging? What IS that word? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
I was thinking of people that, in other `real world’ settings are just checking on their smartphone what their friends or aspirational friends are up to on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram, and commenting in trivial ways. Another thing I see a lot is lurker Schadenfreude type reading making fun

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Pamela McCorduck
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Pamela writes: > > “Turkle suggests all kinds of times out from technology—dinner time, before > bed, that sort of thing.” > > There’s conflict that is created between those people that use electronic >

Re: [FRIAM] [SPAM] Re: [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Nick Thompson
Steve, I love these biographical bits. If a picture is worth a thousand words, what is the value of a thousand word, word-picture!? A million words? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Frank Wimberly
Is the FRIAM list social media? Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jan 29, 2017 10:11 AM, "Marcus Daniels" wrote: > *Pamela writes:* > > > > *“*Turkle suggests all kinds of times out from technology—dinner time, > before bed, that sort of thing.” > > > > There’s

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Pamela writes: “Turkle suggests all kinds of times out from technology—dinner time, before bed, that sort of thing.” There’s conflict that is created between those people that use electronic communication non-stop for their work vs. those that don’t want to. The former are essentially

Re: [FRIAM] [SPAM] Re: [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Steven A Smith
Eric - I appreciate your point here. I think the problem in *all* of our "culture wars" is not that one side is evil and the other must fight and defeat them, but that there is a schism in "Ways of Knowing" which, while unresolved, will lead to a schism in "Knowing" itself. I was raised

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Pamela McCorduck
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:14 AM, Nick Thompson > wrote: > > So we’re stuck, right, Pamela? There’s nothing we can do? Just sit and take > it? > > Nick Oh no. Partly it’s self-correcting. Sherry Turkle (Reclaiming Conversation, and also a new Kindle single

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Steven A Smith
Nick- Steve, For me, there are only two questions I want you to ask yourself: Is the Trump administration /likely to do/ things that will irrevocably decrease the quality of life of people you care about? yes (How widely you cast that net is your business.) It is ultimately my

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Pamela McCorduck
I see you’re mostly agreeing with me, Steve, especially about the a-historic nature of much of the computer world, but as an early member of the WELL (and still there in good standing), I can tell you that it wouldn’t have existed without the ARPANet decades before it. Who would have stuck out