Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on

2022-01-13 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:15 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > Now is the taste of beer a power law related to it's flavor? that is to > say if it's more rich and flavorfull does the quantity quafed go up > exponentially? And does the amount of flavorfulness relate to it's > hoppyness and the

Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on

2022-01-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
Sure thing Steve! ^_^! 樂 Now is the taste of beer a power law related to it's flavor? that is to say if it's more rich and flavorfull does the quantity quafed go up exponentially? And does the amount of flavorfulness relate to it's hoppyness and the amount of head and bubbles it has, those tend

Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on

2022-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Huh? We've liberated ourselves from the constraints of our disciplines. We are doing complexity. Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Stephen Guerin Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 9:29 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re:

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread thompnickson2
Eric, Couldn’t this also be part of a parcel of adaptations present in mothers to call an audible when her offspring are still in utero? n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
That makes sense to me, Eric. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 6:02 PM Eric Charles wrote: > Frank, > Sexual orientation being associated with hormonal concentrations during > pregnancy would be a mark in favor of

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread Eric Charles
Frank, Sexual orientation being associated with hormonal concentrations during pregnancy would be a mark in favor of the spandrel arguement: There are important, dynamic, developmental processes that lead to sexual-attraction biases. Those processes are perturbed by various environmental factors,

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Anyway, the reason I noticed this article is that I posit that the steely harm reduction approach that was discussed recently is in my mind a form of stoicism. Can one put away their emotional responses and make hard choices based on the greater global good? If one engages in large intimate

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
< So, I'd argue against you completely. This essay is talking about how to detect and operate in the presence of bad faith. And, to be clear, the bad faith actor doesn't necessarily *know* that they're acting in bad faith. In fact, it's a more canonical case of bad faith if the actor has simply

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread glen
Wow! So you missed the threads where Pieter was trying to compensate for the lack of the vaccines in South Africa? We had whole conversations about how trustworthy Bret is w.r.t. his advocacy of ivermectin. FWIW, I think it's fine to try ivermectin IF YOUR DOCTOR suggests such. But taking

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread glen
What's interesting about that essay is its appeal to character or "virtue ethics", I think. I've tried to address this a few times in past threads, especially when concepts like "bad faith" arise. Rittenhouse' crying looked precisely like bad faith to me. I get accused of it a lot because I

[FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on

2022-01-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
The maslows are just fucked. Reason number 9 out of googolplex. To save myself a lot of mental wear and tair. and to save some on gass. I had hoped I could shop amazon pantry. for at least some of it. -a lot of the basics: breakfast cerials, or bagels aint available for SNAP,or even at all

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Well, now that I've taken one extreme position, let me take the other extreme position! This essay reflects, IMO, an arbitrary preference for social affinities of a certain sort, and it is only one sort of valid class of relationships. Relationships that have benefits, but also costs. It's

[FRIAM] NOW IS: Oh, Woe, Academia! WAS: gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread thompnickson2
Eric, Oh, I think it would be an interesting topic to discuss, if we took it on directly, allowing each critic to entertain the possibility that their critique is tainted by sour grapes. There are many people in this group whom I would like to see hired by my university or any university.

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread thompnickson2
U , "siblings". Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:36 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gene

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread thompnickson2
All, I continue to think this discussion is of a very high quality and ==> WISH <== some body had the means to coherently archive it. I also wish EricS would not encourage this group to rail on academics. For one, I am an academic. I am also about as silverbacked as it gets: I just don't

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-13 Thread glen
Excellent! Both EricS' and Marcus' answers to the "dumb", "bizarre", "boneheaded", etc. descriptors helps explain why they have that reaction. Both answers allude to higher order operators and the (often abusive) motivations for choosing homosexuality instead of a more tractable aspect like