Re: [FRIAM] Covid and Politics

2020-05-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:26 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Covid and Politics > > > > B

Re: [FRIAM] Covid and Politics

2020-05-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
Benignness. Benignity means kindness or tolerance toward others. See how annoying we language obsessives are. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:11 PM wrote: > Yes. The virus will evolve toward benignity, but only

Re: [FRIAM] ATTN: George Duncan

2020-05-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
ule out that a coin is fair; we would still be inferring regarding the > (un)fairness. > > See also the classic Dilbert comic, attached > [image: Dilbert Random Number.gif] > . > > > --- > Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. > Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologis

Re: [FRIAM] ATTN: George Duncan

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
gt;> >> >> -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . >> ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscr

Re: [FRIAM] proven COVID treatment

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
and boyfriend is out of her and your lives > > davew > > > On Sun, May 24, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Dave, I was expecting you to ask, "Have you ever tried it, Frank?" I > would have said that I hadn't but that my daughter had. Unintentionall

Re: [FRIAM] proven COVID treatment

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
Dave, I was expecting you to ask, "Have you ever tried it, Frank?" I would have said that I hadn't but that my daughter had. Unintentionally. She and her "boyfriend", Stevie Ray (eye roll), went to a party where Mollies were being used. Somebody spiked her drink with something. On the way home

Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
gt; > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly

Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
t; Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:01 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com&

Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] Peirce & Postmordernism

2020-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
*That which is the case, whether or not you, me, or any other finite cognitive system believes it.* Did Peirce write that?Shouldn't it be "whether you, I, or any other..." Nick, don't take Ecstasy. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe,

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce & Postmordernism

2020-05-23 Thread Frank Wimberly
;> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> > > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . ... > ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
The last thing Doug said to me on Facebook was, "Growing old gracefully is an oxymoron." Sorry about the munged part of the constructivist proof. It looked fine in my mail client when I sent it. By the way, who was evicted for non-payment of rent? I lost the context. Frank --- Frank C. Wimbe

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
}}\right|={\frac {|2b^{2}-a^{2}|}{b^{2}\left({\sqrt {2}}+{\frac {a}{b}}\right)}}\geq {\frac {1}{b^{2}\left({\sqrt {2}}+{\frac {a}{b}}\right)}}\geq {\frac {1}{3b^{2}}},}] On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:30 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Clinicians often call that "being oppositional". > >

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
1366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
it feels internally), I am > actually scared to death that I'm a moron surrounded by super-intelligent > beings and I'm just desparate to stay in the game. I seriously have no idea > which is the case ... probably a little bit of both. 8^D > > > On 5/21/20 8:46 AM, Frank

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
Bendito Espinoza (Spanish version) apparently did not believe in the transcendent God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Nor did he believe that men are constrained by the Ten Commandments*. He was declared "herem", a very severe action. My daughter's former Muslim mother-in-law would say "Haram, Har

Re: [FRIAM] God

2020-05-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . > ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe h

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
reams. I'm claiming that the > content of the *stories* about dreams are not the same as the content of > the dreams. I'm further hypothesizing that there may be NO CONTENT to the > dreams, only content to the stories told using the dreams as content. > > On 5/20/20 10:07 AM

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
Gauge FIELDS, Knots and Gravity. Sorry. On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:16 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Matrices that have no inverse are called "singular". Would that word work > in this context? > > The treatment of fibers, bundles, connections, etc. that I am familiar &g

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
gt; I am *not* minimizing the content of the dreams. I'm claiming that the > content of the *stories* about dreams are not the same as the content of > the dreams. I'm further hypothesizing that there may be NO CONTENT to the > dreams, only content to the stories told using the d

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
not what I intended [†]. > > [†] I'd love to sit in on a read of Gentry's paper, though it'd all be > over my head. > > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > -- --- .-. .

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
; -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . > ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom F

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Research on Dreams WAS: hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
Dear Friam, This reply was unintentionally sent here. I was answering Nick's "for what mill?" question and I didn't notice that he asked it in an email to the Group. I apologize. Frank On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:37 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > For which mill: unde

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
You may consider the question closed as soon as you tell me the name of my 6th grade classmate. :-) On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > My mind doesn't feel trivialized, Jon. I like being an example--of most > things that I am. > > Frank > > On Tue,

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
t; <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrows%E2%80%93Wheeler_transform> > transform is invertible and is statistically useful > more-often-than-it-is-not provides a high bar for what can be accomplished > with data > compression. > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Research on Dreams WAS: hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
> > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Research on Dreams WAS: hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
Memories and the accounts thereof are considered valid dream material and it is well known that they have an imperfect relationship to the dream. It doesn't matter. Even if a person makes up.a dream; it is grist for the mill. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
; > > Nick > > > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
cept to vote that it seems a fine term from which to begin an > interesting investigation. > > *[NST===>Well, only if it’s not understood as “that which we cannot > investigate.” <===nst] * > > > > *[NST===>* I have decided to adopt Glen’s footnote practice. OK, so

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
N > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Monday

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
m > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 8:02 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] hidden &g

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
Forget covariant tensors (again). There was a beautiful, talented girl in my sixth grade class. She could dance ballet, draw striking pictures, etc. I thought of her occasionally over the decades. When Google search became available I discovered that she was married to a celebrity. When you sa

Re: [FRIAM] Being Political

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
Also Roberto and Roberta. On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Beto is a nickname (apodo) for Alberto usually. Beta would be the same > for Alberta (female). > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:25 PM John Dobson wrote: > >> Interesting choices. I'd

Re: [FRIAM] Being Political

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
ogspot.com/ >> > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . > ... ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
ersity > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 3:31 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com&g

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
pson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 3:21 PM >

Re: [FRIAM] Being Political

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
p.s. Mothe-in-law and friend were interviewed on PBS. On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:18 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Most of those look good, George, Note that when we say someone is too old > we say that from the perspective of someone who is older than they are. At > least I do. &

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > > -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ...

Re: [FRIAM] Being Political

2020-05-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://fria

Re: [FRIAM] Mission to Abisko

2020-05-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
A famous proof that is on God's or god's book: Thm:. The square root of two is not rational. Proof: Assume sqrt(2) = p/q a fraction where p and q have no common factors. Square both sides of the equation so p*p/q*q = 2. Therefore p*p = 2*q*q so p*p is even which means p is even. So p*p is a

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

2020-05-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
>> a miserable person was the one that was hard to miss. He couldn’t seem to >> even find amusement in being a troll. >> >> >> >> *From: *Friam on behalf of Frank Wimberly < >> wimber...@gmail.com> >> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Compl

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

2020-05-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Sorry. I am not used to this (&^%( keyboard. That's wonderful, Jon. On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:44 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > > > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:26 AM Jon Zingale wrote: > >> Frank, >> >> Thank you for your response. As a variant of your

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

2020-05-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
n's thoughts on mathematics and humanity have > left an indelible mark on my thinking. > > Jon > > -- --- .-. .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... -..-. .- .-. . -..-. - . -..-. . ... > ... . -. - .. .- .-.. -..-. .-- --- .-. -.- . .-. ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [FRIAM] The plague

2020-05-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Fra

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

2020-05-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
nly that when you say anything is true, you are implying that, in the very > long run opinion, will come to agree with you. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.c

Re: [FRIAM] from 5/15 virtual FRIAM

2020-05-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
Jon- While reading your essay I had several associations. I recently read the assertion that in developing axiomatic systems and proving the entailed theorems mathematicians are writing for God as the authority. So mathematics, from that point of view is a conversation with God. At the other ex

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

2020-05-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
Did Doug hire them or what? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 16, 2020, 6:11 PM Stephen Guerin wrote: > There is a group of freelance Ukranian Comic Artists. We never know which > one is working on what >https://www.upwork.c

Re: [FRIAM] intension/extension

2020-05-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
I may be completely misunderstanding but is intention what the actor intends while intension us what his action entails? The two may coincide or overlap sometimes? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 16, 2020, 12:09 PM wrote: > J

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

2020-05-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
So H. G. Wells is behind all this Morlock stuff. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 16, 2020, 7:49 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > I found this via Google: > > Eloi - Wikipedia > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eloi&g

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

2020-05-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
I found this via Google: Eloi - Wikipedia The Eloi live a banal life of ease on the surface of the Earth while the Morlocks live underground, tending machinery and providing food, clothing, and .. The word Eloi is a synonym for Eli as far as I know. The God

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

2020-05-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
t; Tom > > On Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:47 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> Nick >> >> I started to decode it but it's a pain in the neck that it's embedded in >> an image. If you transcribe it for me I'll decode it. >> >> My Covid-19 antib

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM: The Comic Edition: April 2020

2020-05-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
Nick I started to decode it but it's a pain in the neck that it's embedded in an image. If you transcribe it for me I'll decode it. My Covid-19 antibody test was negative. I'm not sure whether that's good or bad. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-991

Re: [FRIAM] Please join Zoom meeting in progress

2020-05-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
n order for the meeting to continue. > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:16 PM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> I apologize. Stephen said he made me and Tom hosts. I assumed that if >> one host left it wouldn't disturb the meeting. >> >> Frank >> >> --- &g

Re: [FRIAM] Please join Zoom meeting in progress

2020-05-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
I apologize. Stephen said he made me and Tom hosts. I assumed that if one host left it wouldn't disturb the meeting. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, May 15, 2020, 10:46 AM Tom Johnson wrote: > Frank screwed us up. > > > J

Re: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
Ja gewiss. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, May 14, 2020, 11:33 PM Jochen Fromm wrote: > Dear Sir or Maddam, > > is the Gentleman's Club meeting today online? > > Cheers, > Jochen > > > Original message > From: Jo

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
😄 --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, May 14, 2020, 7:07 PM Stephen Guerin wrote: > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 4:41 PM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> My dad was a member of a team that designed and built

Re: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
You are eminently clubbable wrt Friam, Jon. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM Jon Zingale wrote: > Glen astutely begins: > "We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we > quote a lot

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
"We need to nail down the metaphors: momentum, mass, velocity, constant, force, not to mention, particle, wave, string, quantum, atom. et. al." My dad was a member of a team that designed and built nuclear submarines successfully. I wonder if they realized they were working with metaphors. Frank

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
But in the context of maintaining balance in a walking machine they are derivable from classical mechanics. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, May 14, 2020, 10:14 AM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > You're right. There are mechanistic DE models and

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
What Glen said. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, May 14, 2020, 10:14 AM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > You're right. There are mechanistic DE models and non-mechanistic DE > models. > > On 5/14/20 9:09 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > > I am

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
Above I should have written "both/and is better than either/or". For clarity. Marc Raibert founded Boston Dynamics which was bought by Google. They're the people that develop the walking animals, etc that appear in so many videos. Marc and I did an experiment that involved solving differential

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
> Marcus > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > arc

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
t; > > *From: *Friam on behalf of Frank Wimberly < > wimber...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:02 PM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group &

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
I understand your point but the fact remains that that visualization was based on a numerical model that was, in turn, based on first principles. I can confirm that with Greg Foss but I'm pretty sure it's true. Both and is better than either or. Another aphorism: whatever works. F --- Frank C.

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Marcus's comment reminds me of Bruce Sherwood's comment that people solve differential equations because they don't have computers. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, May 13, 2020, 9:40 PM wrote: > Old Philosophical Joke: > > > > Dee

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
The fluid dynamics model used for that visualization is based on first principles. Many years ago Nick was trying to figure out how tornadoes develop. I told him I thought this was pretty well understood and I asked Droegemeier for a paper. He sent one which I forwarded to Nick. It was full of

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
it.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-.

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p]

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
agents in an > epidemiological simulation touched on a subway, you can describe the subway > and the riders, and the whole thing. > > > > Marcus > > > > *From: *Friam on behalf of Frank Wimberly < > wimber...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p]

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
IAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
RTS > Lab) > Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico > > 1017 Sierra Pinon > Santa Fe, NM 87501 > 505-984-0136 (home)edward.an...@gmail.com > 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel > > > > On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimb

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
136 (home) edward.an...@gmail.com > 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel > > On May 13, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Let me revise that a little bit. There was a visualization of the rider's > view of a roller coaster ride that ran on a Cray super

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
> Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:35 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > fr

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Did you know it was a division of the larger Center? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:37 PM Stephen Guerin wrote: > Eye candy in the good sense. > > Frank, have you heard of the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center? (DO

Re: [FRIAM] PSC Tornado Visualization (2008) [720p] - YouTube

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
You should take it seriously but I'm biased. I don't think PSC let's its supercomputers be used for eye candy. They didn't when I worked there and they were accountable to NSF. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
It's appendages all the way up. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, May 13, 2020, 2:26 PM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > > > On 5/13/20 12:56 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > On 5/13/20 11:58 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > >> The boundary is a cut-point in that m

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
omplexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabbl

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
grals, Necker cubes, verbs as > duals of nouns, etc. Luckily, Marcus assures us that e-ink is cheap. 8^D > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Sorry. The wife says, "It turns out that it wasn't the meteor that killed the dinosaurs; it was stress about the meteor". On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:02 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Stress or virus > > > https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNtFVkBUo9UR7UFiqk8Pe9Jvo-2W

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] sum of atomic spectra == 9000K black body?

2020-05-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Less public. Last I heard with fMRI they might be able to detect that you're thinking of a coffee cup. I rarely think of cups. Could the detect that I was thinking of a covariant tensor? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, May 12, 20

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year My memory/impression is that widespread seatbelt use began in the mid sixties. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, May 12, 2020, 7:57 AM uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > The

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
conomy > ... [cough] put our blinders back on ... so that we rich people can > continue to ignore the 3 million deaths every year. > > On 5/11/20 11:07 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > My point is that NO ONE in the United States goes berserk over the FACT > that

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
My high school best friend Jim Snoke posted this on Facebook. He is also an anthropologist, like Dave. He says he finished his dissertation at UC Davis but his defense never happened because his major adviser moved to another university. (?). He has gotten involved in a major way with Native Ame

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
ental method precludes the > possibility of obtaining any but negative results. I would attempt to > explain why, but I doubt anyone on the list is interested. > > davew > > > On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 4:18 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Here is an abstract by Dar

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
ights reserved) On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 3:50 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Eric Charles, > > As you read this recall that I have an MS in psychology so you can think > of me as a disenchanted former psychologist. > > You hint at something I have wondered about. Psychologists seem

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
not that you don’t have thoughts. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
ast time you moved an object and it > didn't come to rest? Aristotle's system is much more intuitive. > > --- > Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. > Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist > American University - Adjunct Instructor > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2020

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
he last time you moved an object and it >> didn't come to rest? Aristotle's system is much more intuitive. >> >> --- >> Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. >> Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist >> American University - Adjunct Instructor >&g

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist > American University - Adjunct Instructor > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:46 AM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> As I said to Nick approximately a dozen years ago, people who deny >> thought must not have it. I

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
As I said to Nick approximately a dozen years ago, people who deny thought must not have it. I don't mean that as an insult. It's that for me thought is the one thing I can't deny because it's the first *experience* At that point Nick dismisses me as a Cartesian. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle

Re: [FRIAM] curiosity

2020-05-09 Thread Frank Wimberly
I think Stephen did it but I may be wrong. It was not anything you said. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:09 PM Prof David West wrote: > Seeing as no one else mentioned such an event, I assume that my summary

Re: [FRIAM] Tonight We Riot!

2020-05-08 Thread Frank Wimberly
How did you get into Clockwork Orange at 14? I believe it was rated X. For a reason. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, May 8, 2020, 9:30 AM Steven A Smith wrote: > Glen - > > https://tonightweriot.com/ > > tonight we riot is a revo

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile, back on the troll farms

2020-05-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
I was working on a large software project at CMU and when I implemented a new algorithm I would implement a couple of unit tests using the data I tested it with. This would take about half an hour. Then I forgot about them. I got compliments for how useful they were in testing new releases of th

[FRIAM] Murder hornets invade headlines, not the U.S.

2020-05-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
>From on of my almae matres https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2020/05/06/murder-hornets-invade-headlines-not-us --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... . ... FRIAM Applie

Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The New York Times

2020-05-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
; > > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020, at 3:49 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > > Doesn’t doubling time handle that problem? > > > > N > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University >

Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The New York Times

2020-05-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
gt; > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Wednesday, May

Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The New York Times

2020-05-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
holas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith > > *Sent:* Wednesday, M

Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The New York Times

2020-05-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -.

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