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> Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 7:47 AM
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> Every time I write "passive", Android mail client auto-completes it as
> "passive aggressive".
I also find auto-complete/correct to verge on passive aggressive itself
sometimes. I'm not sure where the UX for these began to change to
"remember" when you "uncorrect" and allows you your idiosy
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From: Friam On Behalf Of jon zingale
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:53 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion
Agreed! Pinker is a smug jerk.
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Agreed!
No sé nada aquí. No swimming here, right?
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On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 12:34 PM Diane McCorkle
wrote:
> I agree with you, Dad, but have never seen “se gusta.”
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> Gustar is a verb with an implicit direct
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From: Friam On Behalf Of jon zingale
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 12:00 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion
... and just
... and just for additional fun, Glen recently posted this video of Stephen
Pinker on style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5J6BfToSw&feature=youtu.be&t=1455
The link above is queued to the moment where Strunk and White recommend
(while using the passive voice) avoiding the passive voice.
... and what about the connections between a revolutionary function of
vulgarity[⁕], and dissent from legitimized grammar and style?
[⁕]
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/05/the-necessity-of-political-vulgarity
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Those French! They have a word for everything! Apologies to Steve
Martin. I think, as your translations demonstrate, English also has
impersonal constructions. But I think we use them less. They're probably
correct that we're excessively assertive. And we know what they think of
Germans.
"Mi
Yes, but who will write the definitive book style guide for *sabir*[†], the
_man_ able to do what the British did for the Ramayana!
[†] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Lingua_Franca
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It's usually obvious from.the context who/what "it" is. People do say "yo
gusto" but like "yo te gusto?" Do you like me? And sometimes to be cute "tu
gustas?"
It's usually obvious from.the context who/what "it" is. People do say "yo
gusto" but like "yo te gusto?" Do you like me? And sometimes to be cute
"tu gustas?" which is incorrect. These examples are not passive voice.
"Se gusta?" meaning "is it liked?" is passive voice. Any disagreements
will
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To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
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Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Abducktion
Thanks, jon, for digging up this old thread.
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abduc
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 8:54 PM wrote:
> Forgive me, but can you spell that out a bit? How does working in a
> particular programming Language shape an approach to the problem.
>
As an example of FRIAM thread spelunking, here's a 2005 entry from the late
great Mike Agar on programming languages
d Angel
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 4:43 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion
Literally it says “it pleases me” which is the passive voice leading to the
question who is “it?"
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Founding Direct
I grew up with street Spanish (arroyo?) as a second language. 2/3 of
my peers were descendants of Spanish (by then Mexico) settlers from the
Socorro area who moved to the upper Gila watershed (San
Francisco/Tularosa river confluence) whose grandparents may well have
spoken no English, in spite of
Literally it says “it pleases me” which is the passive voice leading to the
question who is “it?"
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Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
1017 Sierra Pinon
Sa
I'm no grammar expert, even in my native English, but I don't believe "me
gusta el cafe" is using passive voice. It literally says "coffee pleases
me". Comments, Frank? But then, I may be confused about what passive voice
is.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Angel Edward wrote:
> Isn’t it a conseq
Isn’t it a consequence of the routine use of the passive voice in Spanish as in
“me gusta” instead of “yo gusto?”
The passive voice is pretty much gone in textbooks but I occasionally I get
objections from Spanish speakers who claim my textbook can’t be serious because
I don’t use the passive v
Despite living in a Spanish speaking country for 12 years, I still struggle
mightily with Spanish grammar. This is mainly due to laziness on my part,
as well as lack of necessity to immerse myself in the language (there are a
lot of English speakers here, not to mention expat groups on Facebook in
Or the equally famous Spanish phrase, "The pencil broke itself." A phrase
which you think I would remember.
TJ
Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com
Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA
505.577.6482(c)
In Spanish if you drop your cup you say, "See me cayó la taza". A literal
word--for-word translation is "The cup fell itself on me". Some people
say this is an effort to avoid responsibility.
Frank
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On Fri
I'm in Seattle hugging my 10th grader and worried about inept educational
programs as the new school year begins. Very little creative thinking on
the part of public school bureaucracies. Lucky for Seattle students, the
citizen-elected school board is resisting the "expert" educators.
https://ww
Long time ago, as part of my cognitive anthropology studies, i had a lot of
data about relationships among natural languages and programming languages
(e.g. Native Hindi speakers learned Prolog, Pascal and SQL much faster than
native English speakers) and between/among programming languages (e.g
Very much so. We hired a grad student a long time ago (he stayed with us
until he retired). He wrote great Pascal programs. He wrote great Pascal
programs in C++, and in JavaScript. The effect of your first programming
language on style, idioms, and your feelings about recursion and
encapsulati
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Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion
Maybe Friam itself could be my hammer?
Nick, if you would like to chat programming languages tomorrow on zoom I
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Nick,
When not much is happening on the list, I like to go
spelunking through the archives and engage the
serendipity of the stacks. What amazes me most
is how often the same ideas, conversations, and
approaches have materialized since 2003. With
so much content here, I wonder to what extent
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:17 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion
riam On Behalf Of jon zingale
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> Ha! It's good to see that 7 years later the advice is effectively the same,
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Ha! It's good to see that 7 years later the advice is effectively the same,
"Hey Nick! listen to what the Haskell crowd
Ha! It's good to see that 7 years later the advice is effectively the same,
"Hey Nick! listen to what the Haskell crowd has to say about your
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Right. Type inferencing is a wonderful and powerful feature of some
systems. Scala-user has it also.
On Apr 23, 2013 5:59 AM, "Marcus G. Daniels" wrote:
> On 4/22/13 8:52 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>
> Let’s say some programmer in the future, working with your program creates
> a variable, goo
On 4/22/13 8:52 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Let's say some programmer in the future, working with your program
creates a variable, goose, that also waddles, quacks (sort of) and
tastesgoodincassoulets. Is there any way for the program to output to
the programmer, "don't you mean 'duck?".
T
ot;.
Nick
Nick
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:37 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Cc: mikeby...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM,
You're right. I was forgetting about java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke.
But it is a PITA doing things that way, whereas C++ generic
programming is designed for duck typing.
Cheers
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 08:16:01PM -0600, Joshua Thorp wrote:
> You can do Duck typing in Java via methods requiring O
You can do Duck typing in Java via methods requiring Objects (the base class of
all other Java objects) and using reflection to test for various properties.
But it is working against the grain of the language to do so. Intersting run
down of various implementations here: http://en.wikipedia.or
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:37:09PM -0600, Owen Densmore wrote:
>
> In duck typing, one is concerned with just those aspects of an object that
> are used, rather than with the type of the object itself. For example, in a
> non-duck-typed language, one can create a function that takes an object of
>
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Nicholas Thompson <
nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This also is very interesting. Peirce typing, as you put it, equals
> “abduction”. Is “Duck Typing” a term of art, somewhere? Or is that your
> neologism. I like it.
>
> ** **
>
> Actually, from Pe
This also is very interesting. Peirce typing, as you put it, equals
"abduction". Is "Duck Typing" a term of art, somewhere? Or is that your
neologism. I like it.
Actually, from Peirce's point of view, I perhaps made a mistake with
"It's a duck!" (Some might say I was guilty of a can
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