[FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-15 Thread glen ropella
On 09/14/2012 06:56 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > For me, consciousness is a point of view, and any telic system has a point > of view. Zombies are telic systems, no? That's a great question. I would answer no. Zombies cannot be telic (as I understand that word, of course) because they are ens

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-15 Thread Nicholas Thompson
FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist) On 09/14/2012 06:56 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > For me, consciousness is a point of view, and any telic system has a > point of view. Zombies are telic systems, no? That's a gr

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-15 Thread Robert Holmes
om [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On > Behalf > Of glen ropella > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:49 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the > Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economi

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-15 Thread Arlo Barnes
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Robert Holmes wrote: > You guys clearly know too much about philosophy and not enough about > zombies. Your notion that there is a single type of zombie has long been > discredited. Not to mention the original meaning, which is somebody who was slipped a poison th

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-15 Thread Curt McNamara
...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On >> Behalf >> Of glen ropella >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:49 AM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> Subject: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the >> Mid

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
..@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert Holmes Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:19 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist) You guys clearly know too much ab

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-16 Thread Robert Holmes
Here's some grounds for denying the non-zombie's account of his zombieness: the non-zombie is mad or pig-headed or over-familiar with solipsism. Or a combination of all three. —R On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Nicholas Thompson < nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Robert, > > So, there

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Of Robert Holmes Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:31 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist) Here's some grounds for denying the non-zombie's acco

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people (was America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)

2012-09-16 Thread Jochen Fromm
America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist)   Here's some grounds for denying the non-zombie's account of his zombieness: the non-zombie is mad or pig-headed or over-familiar with solipsism. Or a combination of all three.   —R On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Nichola