Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe's Sugar Tax

I’m all for requiring health insurance, but how about we require intensive exercise too? Use red blood cell counts or other indicators to prove it was done. Again, an android or iPhone with some suitable sensors could track results. Pose it as tax break instead of a penalty. Then people

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe's Sugar Tax

Joe writes: "It is Elitist to be in favor of something that promotes general health?" It is elitist to burden your neighbors' pocketbook by pushing for law to promote general health AND is it is elitist to not care about your neighbors' health! Damned elitists! Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] Santa Fe's Sugar Tax

Frank writes: "I don't care about the tax or how much sugar I consume but everyone will benefit from wider access to pre-K. Speaking of elitist, most of my friends are my age peers and have no young children in their lives currently." Everyone except your friends. Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

Grant writes: "On the other hand... evolution is stochastic. (You actually did not disagree with me on that. You only said that the reason I was right was another one.) " I think of logic programming systems as a traditional tool of AI research (e.g. Prolog, now Curry, similar capabilities

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

Grant writes: "Fortunately, the AI folks don't seem to see - yet - that they are stumbling all over the missing piece: stochastic adaptation. You know, like in evolution: chance mutations. AI is still down with a bad case of causal determinism. But I expect they will fairly shortly get over

Re: [FRIAM] the self

but throw an error the next ... just like, say, today I can throw a baseball with my right arm. But if I break that arm, tomorrow I might not be able to throw the base ball. So, who's "me" in this temporal game? The receiver of the signal or the arm that does the throwing? O

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [NICAR-L] Machine learning in reporting example

Tom, The random forest method is kind of unsatisfying to me. It says that one can train many simple experts, trained on subsets of a dataset, to vote and thereby predict as well or better as one big integrated expert. One might hope this could be a mechanism of democracy... A property of

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

Here in the US there are many human animals to reign-in first. Sentients will need to stick together and accept the help they can get! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:54 PM, Carl Tollander > wrote: It seems to me that there are many here in

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

"But one problem is that breadth-first and depth-first search are just fast ways to find answers." Just _not_ -- general but not efficient. [My dog was demanding attention! ] From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Marc

Re: [FRIAM] the self

tal changes". Is myself invariant across the loss of a tooth? What were we talking about? On 08/07/2017 05:52 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I claim a message send is analogous to an axon firing, where there is at > least one target neuron for each receivable message. The whole gra

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

ch, B*, C*, constraint-directed search, etc. And these are just classical search methods. Feank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Aug 8, 2017 7:20 PM, "Marcus Daniels" <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: "But one problem is that breadth-first a

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

st 8, 2017 10:15:05 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence My point was that depth-first and breadth-first can probably serve only as a straw-man (straw-men?). Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Aug 8, 2017 10:

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

stinguishing between pseudo-random and `truly' random. Marcus From: Grant Holland <grant.holland...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:40:48 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; Marcus Daniels; glen ☣ Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Futur

Re: [FRIAM] For those of you, who like me, wish to engage in some wishful thinking right now.

Nick, The best outcome I could see of all this would be if conservatives continue to fragment into irreconcilable parts, e.g. the feral blood and land patriarchs vs. the religious right vs. the oligarchy. If things went well, they might end-up hating each other more than they hate the left.

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

Some of us tend to care more about applied power more than the explanatory power. Also as Frank suggested there are practical limits to the size of genomes that can be simulated. I could imagine epigenetic / regulatory analogs being beneficial though. Marcus Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9,

Re: [FRIAM] schadenfreude - a political rant

Dave writes: "Watching Bill Maher with some friends - also hard core liberal democrats - I was struck by two things: 1), all the fury and ridicule heaped on Trump (deservedly so) is really nothing more than schadenfreude at the misery of Trump and his circle. Pleasurable perhaps, but just as

Re: [FRIAM] The apocalypse

Jochen, "What's the matter with your president?" And it is the west cost states at the most risk. States that voted for H! Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Jochen Fromm Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:34:15

Re: [FRIAM] What are the scenarios? Game theory?

Owen writes: "The toughest part is that South Korea is being held hostage. NK can devastate SK even if hit with a pre-emptive strike." How about Trump defines SK as an undesirable economic competitor to the U.S. that steals jobs, and cuts them loose. He has no doubt been briefed on the

Re: [FRIAM] the self

Am I the only one that notices that Slate and Salon are prone knee-jerk editorial responses to things? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism From: Friam on behalf of glen ☣ Sent: Monday, August 7,

Re: [FRIAM] the self

Glen, In Smalltalk and Objective C "self" is an alias for any receiver object from the point of view of that object. E.g. if someone tells me to "jump" I can implement that by sending them a "howHigh" message, or I can send that message to my(self)! self is a handle to the stuff in me,

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

ost of which have discrete values? Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Aug 8, 2017 10:41 PM, "Marcus Daniels" <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Frank writes: "My point was that depth-first and breadth-first can probably serve only a

Re: [FRIAM] just for fun

Shouldn't it be used for Hyperloop? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Steven A Smith > wrote: So... *IF* you could bore a perfectly straight hole thorugh the earth to your precise antipodal location (probably having to put one hell of a

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

“While I feel very nervous about Twitter shutting down theDonald's personal account so cavalierly, I can imagine how devastating it would be to his ego to not be able to blurt out his nonsense at all times of the day or night without benefit of counsel by his (admittedly highly flawed) inner

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

eally mean is they intend to murder people if they feel threatened. On 08/17/2017 01:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Think combining Charlottesville and Kent State.. Not pleasant to think about > but is it completely preposterous? I don't think so. > Yes, every stylish urban pastor thes

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

going to do so. I think tasers might increase everyone's chances of being wounded or killed, rather than decreasing it. My guess is it's flat-out better to let them beat on you than to take any offensive path at all. On 08/17/2017 01:34 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Thus tasers.. couple a

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

"When the Trump Rally started in the markets (January?)" a.k.a. the Obama trend.. [cid:71b6b327-44b6-481e-85c2-37d19013bd43] From: Friam on behalf of Steven A Smith Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:57:45 PM To:

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

Steve writes: < Give him credit or not, he's been willing to take on lots of groups/subcultures fairly head-on (and many more smarmily obliquely... like the LGBT/Latino/Black/??? communities) > Speaking as person who deals with things head-on more than it ever benefits me, I would say that my

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

only go *up* if you tased the guy next to me ... or even looked like you were going to do so. I think tasers might increase everyone's chances of being wounded or killed, rather than decreasing it. My guess is it's flat-out better to let them beat on you than to take any offensive path at all. On 08/17

Re: [FRIAM] Whew!

It seems to me that Santa Fe is sort of a spectator to the country. Many of the residents are retired. Other residents work for the military/industrial complex or tourism industries and are detached the poverty of the state. I think these kinds of unsustainable, desperation revenue measures

Re: [FRIAM] Whew!

Seems like an opportunity to make a post-Trump reading of the Kaczynski manifesto. There are different kinds of anarchists, of course. The Trump supporter that resonates here are the luddites. There are other kinds,

Re: [FRIAM] Whew!

< $13-16k per year is a huge number. Does this include "child care" .. i.e. taking care of the child for working parents? That is a lot more expensive than "pre-school". > Doggy day care is about half that. If a dog has the intelligence of a 2 year old, and pre-K child is 4, then a linear

Re: [FRIAM] request for collective memory: degrees of democracy

One was: http://www.eiu.com/public/topical_report.aspx?campaignid=DemocracyIndex2016 The Economist requires making an account to download the PDF. -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:23 PM To: The

Re: [FRIAM] An interesting article

Imagine a world in which there were millions of experts on any topic, no matter how obscure. Further imagine that one could submit papers or other kinds of work products for iterative feedback and blind review, and that distribution of the work product did not involve naming the author. For

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: "At some point, wouldn't we enter David Deutsch (or Neal Stephenson) territory? ... where the idea is that the computation in our nervous system is mappable to the computation going on around us" While Boston Dynamics has remarkable

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

gt; wrote: I guess a measure of how life-like it is, is how much you are waiting for the robot to haul off and smack the guy with the hockey stick. Some kind of mirror neuron thing, maybe. > On May 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Marcus Daniels > <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar..

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Does Complexity have a circularity problem WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

Glen writes: "But at least you can vary the direction without changing layers. More complicated layering would be something like doping a silicon chip or spray painting a complicated surface ... or perhaps sand blasting something, where you turn it within the directional gradient." Why does

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

< Your comparison of "closure" to Nick's idea of "surplus" (intentional or not) meaning. I accept that in programming a computer, "closure" is a useful tool, to avoid unintended "side effects".> If one thinks of the mind of two people as two circles in a Venn diagram and the intersection as

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

< I'm going to skip ahead a bit and state that my entire line of rhetoric about circularity goes back to the complexity jargon discussion we were having and whether or not, as Nick put it, a system has a say in its own boundary. It's all about _closure_. This particular tangent targets

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

Glen writes: "How about, instead of interpretations, we think of applications, e.g. commonalities between domain-specific languages?" I'd make a distinction between embedded DSLs (built on general-purpose programming languages) and DSLs which are not. I don't want to get stuck thinking

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

"John Zingale referenced something in last Monday's Salon about how idioms frm early string theory investigations was almost deprecated when it found new utility in quantum loop gravity?" I was thinking of the ER=EPR example. Seems like basic questions of interpretation just get kicked down

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

Steve writes: "To the extent that the only and precise goal is to efficiently, unambiguously, and accurately serialize the contents of one's mind and transmit it to another mind which de-serializes with the goal of syncronizing the internal states of Bob's mind to that of Alice's, perhaps what

Re: [FRIAM] All Your Them Are One Model To Us Learn

Figure 1: The machines are coming! From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 9:40 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] All Your Them Are One Model To Us Learn Apropos my

Re: [FRIAM] All Your Them Are One Model To Us Learn

Table 3 suggests that there are general information processing features that translate across domains. Table 4 suggests that becoming an expert in many things doesn’t make you (much) of a worse expert in any one thing. Don’t pull your kid out of liberal arts college just yet? And weirdly

Re: [FRIAM] Get ready for Blockchain

Glen writes: Perhaps market forces can help here. If in order for entertainers to entertain, it may become necessary to hire sophisticated private security. Ariana's people could take additional measures that ordinary law enforcement could not. It seems there could be an opportunity for

Re: [FRIAM] Get ready for Blockchain

The concept of a secure distributed ledger (e.g. blockchain) doesn't itself really imply a political motive. Comey has talked about the dangers of encryption (iPhone) to governance and law enforcement. And there was the attempts at making the Clipper chip back in the 90s. There are

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

High speed trading comes close to not involving people.Other examples that come to mind involve some autonomous (biological) agent creating demand. For example, energy or data or transportation networks are responding to a logistical demand created by people. Netflix (vs. adaptive

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Stephen writes: “My example was the physical phenomena of ferromagnetism not the Ising model that describes it. Eg heat up a physical magnet past its critical point (Curie temperature) and the metal loses its alignment/magnetic polarity as a collective property.” The complex things an Ising

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Stephen writes: “Three most used non-biological examples I've seen are: * ferromagnetism (described with ising model) [..] The Ising model is just a model, however. Even though an Ising system can encode functions, I don’t think that arbitrary functions are found in nature. As a

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

“I'd rule out high speed trading since it's done with computers and works only because it interacts with people trading.” Increasingly there are volatility hazards that arise because machines are talking to machines in a multiparty fashion via the trading system and this happens at a frequency

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

In a simple Ising model example, the quadratic terms can be thought of as edges in an undirected graph. Depending on which J values are zero, there can one phase space or many independent phase spaces depending on how many disconnected components there are. A real material would be subject

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Stephen writes: “Given that systems are abstractions - there would many you can choose from. Some would be complex systems (eg energy and mass circulation with respect to compressor/fan strength” Steve writes: “It is the nature of reductionism to find and/or create subsystems of subsystems

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

“As you get systems of coupled complex systems that are all dissipating gradients that are generated by the other and all complex systems are open to matter and energy flows, the boundary of a living system continues to expand out to the point that I start to sound like a pantheist and the

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Ruminations from the M.I. S. WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

"Download the archive from Redfish and then try to arrange it in any readable fashion, as, say, one might read it in a book as a Famous Correspondence." That's like trying to participate in a game by reading the box scores. Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Mathematica is built on nothing more conceptually complex than relays, and relays (or their modern refinements) work on the principles of physics. I don’t see why you are making the distinction. From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russ Abbott Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Stephen writes: “If I need to use Russ's criteria, I can't think of a non-biological example. To me it's like asking for a non-biological example of a living system.” It seems to me a question is how does modularity happen. How can nature combine components in networks to make something more

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Hurricanes are an instances of multiscale fluid dynamics, or set of problems (cyclogenesis, heat engine, cyclolysis). They are all complicated coupled systems, but it is not clear to me what extra insight is gained by calling them complex systems. From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Stephen writes: “Dynamical Systems and Complex Systems language are often used interchangeably by different complexity researchers and the boundaries are fuzzy in practice. I would say a modelling effort would be more of interest to the Complex Systems community, if say, a weather model were

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Nick writes: “In a similar way, hearing you guys argue, I wonder if much progress has been made on the question of what conditions make possible the spontaneous progressive layering of natural systems.” You might look at the deep learning literature. Starting from the Hubel and Wiesel, all

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

. at least > non-algorithmic, if not non-computational. It's not _all_ nonsense, though a > lot of it is. > > >> On 05/25/2017 04:40 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> I am surprised by the suggestion that a crude computational convenience >> (agents) would really have any

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

I am surprised by the suggestion that a crude computational convenience (agents) would really have any one-to-one mapping with real things. Since we are not talking about biological neural systems nor artifacts from them, what sort of physical system would need to decouple symbols from their

Re: [FRIAM] The Thoughts of a Spiderweb

I like to keep tabs on arrays of related jobs using lots of small xterms. There’s a lot of memory provided by a big display. I tend to it like the spider tends to its web. ☺ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Tom Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:09 PM To:

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Eric writes: "I like chemistry as a medium, because the state space itself supports a lot of complexity, and the temporal variability of reactions, plus the fact that catalytic relations exist, offer large separations of timescales that can be used to fill functional classes like memories."

Re: [FRIAM] Dutch households will use servers to heat their showers for free - The Verge

Compare with Sequoia's closed loop cooling system @ 3600 gallons per minute. A fast way to heat a swimming pool, at least. A few of these 1 gallon per minute closed loop water cooling systems with a radiator is enough to heat the house in winter. Not the

Re: [FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

ped my interest in computers and spent the summer paddling a canoe to Hudson Bay and it took me about 20 years to get back into software. --Barry On 4 Jun 2017, at 11:01, Marcus Daniels wrote: She had the right idea about FORMAC. Only a reality now with systems like SymPy 50 years later. But an e

Re: [FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

Steve writes: "I've a friend in his late 70s who was a bit in that froth... he graduated MIT around 1963 with a degree in Architecture but a hankering and aptitude for programming (nearly failed his Architecture degree because of all the time he spent in the computer lab)..."

Re: [FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

How does moral necessity of The Midnight Computer Wiring Society evolve without a shared environment? -Original Message- From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Does Complexity have a circularity problem WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

I guess there’s stuff to pick apart there, but a troll would make me feel compelled to do so from a place of poor footing. How is Russ’ post an instance of that?Or is this a meta troll? From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017

Re: [FRIAM] Arrow's theorem or this mailing list?

OF COURSE he is! -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:51 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Arrow's theorem or this mailing list? Dude, you're

Re: [FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

umbling around in public? The mind is dead. Long live the hive. On 06/05/2017 10:50 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Sure, like the link on that page over the github and siggraph paper that gets > the wheels turning. This trend toward public github & portfolios I think > leads

Re: [FRIAM] Get ready for Blockchain

As Commander Fred says in Handmaid's Tail, "Better never means better for everyone. It always means worse for some." (The context of this discussion is key.) -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of gepr ? Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:40 AM To:

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Eric writes: "This creates difficulties like deciding when two things are the same molecule; when two molecules arrived at through different pathways are actually isomorphisms of the same label set, etc. In random network-extension algorithms, this entails solving the graph-isomorphism

[FRIAM] the woman behind the woman

She had the right idea about FORMAC. Only a reality now with systems like SymPy 50 years later. But an evolved FORMAC would have been better, as it would have been a high performance numerics language too. http://www.pl-enthusiast.net/2017/05/24/jean-sammet-a-remembrance/

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:16 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems? If one had full genome sequences for

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

"But (I think) they use it as an immediate proxy for the real objects. So, their defn of coherence wouldn't change. My focus isn't so much on whether their calculation actually works as intended. Just that it is a more formal concept than Nick's "objects that interact more with themselves

Re: [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

If one had full genome sequences for a lot of people and used a supervised learning procedure to predict the intellectual disability, that would not be result in a coherent explanation? -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ep ropella Sent:

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

"You're suggestion of memory limitations threw me at first. " I was thinking of an exposition as a special-purpose program, and a highly-optimized implementation as having a lower memory requirements than a general purpose program. If one had memory/attention limitations, it would make sense

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

Nick writes: "So I, as a writer, have to be very slow to be aggrieved when I am not understood." Tech companies usually distinguish between marketing and R Marketing is about connecting with the customer. R is about creating the magical device that doesn't even need to be explained at a

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

Glen writes: "And in that, they want to learn just enough about how/why it works so that they can know what they can do and how they can do it." With regard to my original remark to Nick, I claim that usually people really don't want to know something down to the quantum mechanics -- that is

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

Glen writes: "But I think one of the key insights to all the yaddayadda around innovation and disruption is not that it doesn't need to be explained (in words). It's about the "phase" change the market goes through as they grok it (fully digest it in behavior as well as thought). Some

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

s just an onion... Shall we assume Renee' is Mrs. Glen? Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jun 15, 2017 12:40 PM, "glen ☣" <geprope...@gmail.com<mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 06/15/2017 11:23 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > But as for consumers of some product like Sh

Re: [FRIAM] now it all makes sense

Glen writes: "The authentically intelligent and well intentioned become tools for the gamers/defectors. In the end, it's that _faith_ in human nature, social or evolutionary progress, or whatever that allows them to be used that way." Another possibility is that many gamers are impatient and

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

Glen writes: "It is nice to see another person admit to their premature registration!" The meaning is clear, but is this a term that is used in particular communities? The reason I ask is that I deal with people all that time that do this, and I'd like to be able to whack a book over their

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

3 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion... On 06/14/2017 01:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > The meaning is clear, but is this a term that is used in particular > communities? The reason I as

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

pposedly allowed an objective function to select amongst various multi-neuron clusters, would work. Of course, I tried a few years ago to find code for the simulation(s) he claimed to have, and failed. On 06/14/2017 03:13 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > One can imagine a neural net with similar

Re: [FRIAM] sometimes an onion is just an onion...

Nick writes: "It is a writer's job to control the reference of his signs, in so far as s/he can. In writing code, you guys wouldn't put out a line of code without making clear what language you were writing in, would you?" Many non-trivial programs invent their own abstractions s and work

[FRIAM] now it all makes sense

Now it all makes sense. Trump is feeding escapist dreams by purposely destroying the planet, to create a market for Mars-a-Lago. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2017/06/the_30_month_trip_to_mars_and_back_would_increase_your_chances_of_long_term.html

Re: [FRIAM] Whew!

https://www.abqjournal.com/962831/amazon-to-start-collecting-taxes-in-new-mexico.html Robert C On 5/7/17 10:49 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: With Amazon Prime, this is all irrelevant. Click and ship what you want and such taxes will be bypassed. Further, Amazon's distribution costs will be lower than going t

Re: [FRIAM] Whew!

Robert writes: "Certainly seems like a revenue opportunity here and/or more to the story." If there isn't already such a thing, a mobile app that with a button "Tax it!". A set of city-designated panel could review the accumulated list from time to time. As a tax-and-spend liberal myself,

Re: [FRIAM] Whew!

s on those funds apparently. The city has it's own component of Gross Receipts Tax (which is like a Sales Tax but applied more broadly). So what's the real problem and how do we fix it? The mayor is still looking for good ideas. Robert C On 5/3/17 9:43 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: < $13-16k

Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

According to this.. http://www.city-data.com/income/income-Santa-Fe-New-Mexico.html ..there are about 8037 people in Santa Fe with a household income above $100k/year. Baltimore has a 3% tax. D.C. has a 8.5% income tax for income over $40k/year.

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIXTDeZzDg -Original Message- From: Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 4:31 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns I remember

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: "Being _in_ the world means being tightly coupled to it so that you feel the immediate consequences of your words and hear your own words repeated from others' mouths. If you're not tightly coupled, then you're at risk." Speaking truth to power implies that the truth stands on

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen write: "Their interpretation of their distributed artifact is decoupled from, abstracted from, their audience's interpretation of the same artifact. And they bear some responsibility for that decoupling." Listeners bear responsibility too. Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: < If a listener abstracts their self, they are just as evil as a speaker abstracting their self. > Steve writes: < Firstly, my own throwdown of "rhetoric" was intended to be very specific. I believe that you both took it to be a bit more broad than intended. I specifically

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

"Linux is useless without a shell like GNU. But that doesn't mean those artifacts are somehow abstractions." There's abstract as "existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence". A computer program not really physical. It can be represented as physical

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: " But what I didn't get from his talk (yet it's mirrored in Marcus' post about open source communities) is the tight coupling that's needed." I intended to make a different point than what I think you may have concluded. To certain technologists, there is the view that our

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: < I disagree. These tools are personal (I'm OK if you'd prefer a different term... "local" perhaps, "concrete"?) and are definitely not abstract. When you put your life (as you know it) at risk submitting classified information to Wikileaks, that's personal. When you spend 1/2

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

urably smarter than me, for their tolerance of my nonsensical attempts to navigate reality. On May 5, 2017 12:02:15 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: >Glen writes: > >< If a listener abstracts their self, they are just as evil as a >speaker abstracting th

Re: [FRIAM] Harvard

This is mischaracterizing what was said. There was no disparagement. Not sure why this was raised again. From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:35 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

Glen writes: "Those of us who tolerate (especially drastic) semantic shifts, on the fly, may survive through any Singularity." A fun fact that I ran across last week: A superconducting neuron made of Josephson Junctions could be 7 orders of magnitude faster than those in the human central

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