[Full-Disclosure] Time Expiry Alogorithm??

2004-11-19 Thread Gautam R. Singh
Hi List, I was just wondering is there any encrytpion alogortim which expires with time. For example an email message maybe decrypted withing 48 hours of its delivery otherwise it become usless or cant be decrypted with the orignal key Gautam -- Gautam R. Singh http://gautam.techwhack.com

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail anomaly

2004-11-19 Thread Steve R
--- Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, something is awry with Firefox's cookie management. it pisses me off. I disconnect from a site (close the browser), but the next time I open FF, all my cookies are acting as if they are still live. The Maxthon add-on for IE does

Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Raoul Nakhmanson-Kulish
Hello, Danny! This makes sense now, thanks Raoul! One more question: to make things more secure, do you have any tips on what settings to change in the firefox.js file? It's contains a lot of info. :) Very usable references here: http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/docs/mozilla-pre-config.html

[Full-Disclosure] Re: [Full-Dev-Server] Time Expiry Alogorithm??

2004-11-19 Thread Michael Simpson
interesting question presumably there would have to be a time stamp as part of the sig which if it was too old then the message would get discarded you would have to hash the time as otherwise it would be open to spoofing think kerberos has this facitlity but it tends to be **MUCH** tighter

[Full-Disclosure] Sober.I worm is here

2004-11-19 Thread etomcat
Hello, Looks like new Sober.I worm is set to cause a medium sized epidemic, AV firms are starting to send out warnings to their public mailing lists now. It would be way cool if Mr. Zarkawi has beheaded all the VXers for breaking the muslim holy day of Friday. I would be dancing in the streets.

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Time Expiry Alogorithm??

2004-11-19 Thread Michael Simpson
not that kerberos is of use for your application however i did find this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/22/microsoft_launches_selfdestructing_email_false/ slightly heavy handedly there is this http://www.mailexpire.com/ there's this which claims to use openpgp but which is online

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail anomaly

2004-11-19 Thread GuidoZ
I agree - the default cookie manager leaves much to be desired. I've found a very useful extension called CookieCuller that handles them much better, allowing you to save or clear cookies with a single click. Plus, you can view the information contained in the cookie without having to do anything

Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Raoul Nakhmanson-Kulish
Hello, Esmond! Offline folders work as well as roaming profiles do : nice fast networks and low overhead/beefy servers work well, odd things happen if you have impatient users with laptops, wireless etc. Sometimes its simply easier to have a scheduled task sync files to a local folder. This will

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail anomaly

2004-11-19 Thread Paulo Pereira
Micheal, you can use the Web Developer Extension to delete domain cookies whenever you want. Paulo Pereira quote who=Micheal Espinola Jr Yep, something is awry with Firefox's cookie management. it pisses me off. I disconnect from a site (close the browser), but the next time I open FF,

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Borja Marcos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could you please define integrated? English isn't my primary language... Integrated is similar to saying is part of or united. For future reference (and more info), Google can also be extremely handy in such a case. Doing a Google search for: :-D

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail anomaly

2004-11-19 Thread evilninja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GuidoZ schrieb: I agree - the default cookie manager leaves much to be desired. I've found a very useful extension called CookieCuller that handles them [...] On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:10:33 -0500, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Full-Disclosure] SecurityForest - Public Release #1

2004-11-19 Thread loni
Community Website: http://www.securityforest.comCommunity IRC channel: irc://irc.unixgods.net:/securityforest Table of contents= Summary The Open Source Idea Tree's in the Forest ExploitTree ToolTree TutorialTree LinkTree GreenHouse Thanks

[Full-Disclosure] [MaxPatrol] SQL-injection in Invision Power Board 2.x

2004-11-19 Thread aanisimov
[ SQL-injection in Invision Power Board 2.x ] MaxPatrol Security Advisory 11.18.04 November 18, 2004 Release Date: November 18, 2004 Date Reported:November 12, 2004 Severity: High Application: Invision Power Board v2.x Affects

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Kenneth Ng
In my opinion, there are two defintions for integrated. For most people, it means a works with b. For Microsoft, it means a can not work without b. Firefox is definitelyl the former because I use it both under Linux and under Windows, and I'm trying to get it to work on my Zaurus. On Fri, 19

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail anomaly

2004-11-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Thanks, will do! On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:43:06 +, GuidoZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree - the default cookie manager leaves much to be desired. I've found a very useful extension called CookieCuller that handles them much better, allowing you to save or clear cookies with a single

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sober.I worm is here

2004-11-19 Thread KF_lists
can you define medium sized epidemic? Any new features / functionality? -KF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Looks like new Sober.I worm is set to cause a medium sized epidemic, AV firms are starting to send out warnings to their public mailing lists now. It would be way cool if Mr. Zarkawi has

RE: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread joe
Autoconfig script may enumerate hosts which don't require a proxy. Usually there are a very few intranet servers in corporate network. You should have prefixed there are very few... with one of two things 1. Relative to the internet... 2. In my experience... I have been on several large

RE: [Full-Disclosure] WiFi question

2004-11-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, November 18, 2004 09:32:27 AM -0600 Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:41:44 PM -0500 Lachniet, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could also be RF interference. One of my coworkers tracked down a particularly interesting problem with motion

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:57:31 +0100, Borja Marcos said: Given that Firefox is integrated in Linux... ¿Will I be able to use Linux wthout Firefox? Or, ¿is Firefox an operating system module? Being Hint: Linux is over 10 years old, and FireFox just came out. What did Linux do before FF

RE: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread joe
Georgi, you obviously aren't in touch with the real world if you don't realize which OS and browser comprise a vast majority of the market. That penetration often dictates for many IT professionals which OS they will be working on if they actually choose to work in the field. When you specify our

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread devis
This message is primarily destined to all MS trolls, no matter their levels, and i can see so many in this list that i am happy to target a large audience. Please run some unix or at least read about the unix permission system, and lets pray god this sheds some light in your mono cultured

Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Vincent Archer
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 10:51:43AM -0500, joe wrote: Autoconfig script may enumerate hosts which don't require a proxy. Usually there are a very few intranet servers in corporate network. You should have prefixed there are very few... with one of two things 1. Relative to the

[Full-Disclosure] Java Vulnerabilities in Opera 7.54

2004-11-19 Thread Marc Schoenefeld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Illegalaccess.org Advisory: Opera 7.54 Java vulnerabilities Author: Marc Schönefeld, www.illegalaccess.org Summary Opera 7.54 is vulnerable to leakage of the java sandbox, allowing malicious applets to gain unacceptable privileges. This allows them to

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Gmail anomaly

2004-11-19 Thread Daniel Veditz
ifconfig_xl0 wrote: If you open two gmail accounts in two different firebird/fox browsers the first account logged into after a refresh becomes the second acccount. Or if you send an e-mail with the second account, it may send as the first and refresh back as account1. So if you login with

[Full-Disclosure] Corsaire Security Advisory - Netopia Timbuktu remote buffer overflow issue

2004-11-19 Thread advisories
-- Corsaire Security Advisory -- Title: Netopia Timbuktu remote buffer overflow issue Date: 20.07.04 Application: Timbuktu v7.0.3 Environment: Mac OS X (10.1, 10.2, 10.3) Author: Stephen de Vries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audience: General release Reference: c040720-001 -- Scope -- The aim of this

Re: [Full-Disclosure] SecurityForest - Public Release #1

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Gilliss
Yeah, I'd like for my country to accummulate all the available computer security knowledge too...one heck of a competative advantage to have. Registrant: Alon Swartz Har Sinai St Raanana, NA 43307 Israel Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: SECURITYFOREST.COM

RE: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Crotty, Edward
I'm not a Win based guy (troll?) - Un*x here - and even I was offended by #1. There is such a thing as runas for Windows. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of devis Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:10 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [in]

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Time Expiry Alogorithm??

2004-11-19 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Gautam R. Singh wrote: I was just wondering is there any encrytpion alogortim which expires with time. For example an email message maybe decrypted withing 48 hours of its delivery otherwise it become usless or cant be decrypted with the orignal key No. If a certain

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Time Expiry Alogorithm??

2004-11-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:09:19 +0530, Gautam R. Singh said: I was just wondering is there any encrytpion alogortim which expires with tim e. For example an email message maybe decrypted withing 48 hours of its delivery otherwise it become usless or cant be decrypted with the orignal key So

Re: [Full-Disclosure] University Researchers Challenge Bush Win In Florida

2004-11-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, November 19, 2004 12:12:10 AM + Jason Coombs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,1 0801,97614,00.html?nas=PM-97614 I wouldn't trust anything coming out of Bezerkley without confirmation from competent researchers

[Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Danny
Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? 2) A considerable amount of script kiddies originate and grow through IRC? 3) A wee

[Full-Disclosure] Re: RX171104 Cscope v15.5 and minors - symlink vulnerability - advisory, exploit and patch.

2004-11-19 Thread broeker
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, rexolab wrote: VulnDiscovery:2003/05/21 Release Date :2004/11/17 Surely you're joking, Mr. Gangstuck. You can't seriously be telling us you sat on this for no less than 18 months, without telling anybody about it. Actually, I somewhat doubt you even discovered this

[Full-Disclosure] Corsaire Security Advisory - Danware NetOp Host multiple information disclosure issues

2004-11-19 Thread advisories
-- Corsaire Security Advisory -- Title: Danware NetOp Host multiple information disclosure issues Date: 19.06.04 Application: Danware NetOp prior to 7.65 build 2004278 Environment: Windows NT/2000/2003/XP/98 Author: Martin O'Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audience: General release Reference: c040619-001

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sober.I worm is here

2004-11-19 Thread Danny
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:22:31 -0500, KF_lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you define medium sized epidemic? Any new features / functionality? Not too much, except for the fact that it also arrives with the following attachment extenstions: .doc, .txt, and .word Which are not typically blocked

RE: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Todd Towles
Windows doesn't tell you about the Admin account and makes the default user a Admin. That isn't best method as you know. RunAs is great..but that is only good once you create a normal user - and then delete your new default user. Or you log in in Administrator and take away the full control of

[Full-Disclosure] Addendum, recent Linux = 2.4.27 vulnerabilities

2004-11-19 Thread Paul Starzetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, while looking at the changelog for 2.4.28, I've found, that a bug I independently came over some days ago has been fixed in that release: David S. Miller: o [AF_UNIX]: Serialize dgram read using semaphore just like stream That fixes missing

Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Georgi Guninski
dear j0e, all i wanted to say is that there are minorities in the real world, who don't load a browser or even graphics and they don't need anyone to let them. i believe these minorities in real world can do more things than the windoze lusers (whose main purpose is to be free shell providers),

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Jeff Donahue
That's because the Internet is free and no one can control what survives on it. What survives isn't what is *ethical* but what is *useful*. And IRC is very useful for some people, so it's here to stay. The problem is not IRC; the problem is the misuse some people make of it. We cannot make

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Sober.I worm is here

2004-11-19 Thread Todd Towles
It arrives at .doc, .txt and .word? Where are you seeing that? It can't be very dangerous as a TEXT file. As far as I know it uses the normal double extensions tricks. Any good email filter should pick this up and you should be fine. Anyone that just clicks on random attachments in their

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Time Expiry Alogorithm??

2004-11-19 Thread Anders Langworthy
Pavel Kankovsky wrote: If a certain deterministic computation (e.g. decryption) can be made in time T, then it can be made in any time T' T. This is true for breaking a cipher by brute force, but it doesn't account for (stop looking at me) somehow incorporating a timestamp into the encryption

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Sober.I worm is here

2004-11-19 Thread Bowes, Ronald (EST)
How does it infect somebody if it's using a .txt file? Ron Bowes Information Protection Centre Government Of Manitoba 204-945-1594 -Original Message- From: Danny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:07 AM To: KF_lists Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Todd Towles
Microsoft integration: You remove the application that plays MPEG movies from a system that has never needed to play MPEG movies, and never will need to - and your system won't boot anymore. Example - Anyone with XP, do a search for mplayer2.exe? What is this you ask? It is media player 6.4

RE: [Full-Disclosure] WiFi question

2004-11-19 Thread Todd Towles
It shouldn't take a wireless expert to tell you that...he should try it. I pick up all types of weird stuff all the time in Kismet..and it looks like something..but I know it isn't..the SSID is A^B^C^B^D^S^G, or in other words, trash. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Full-Disclosure] Re: Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread class 101
Sorry to offend those that use IRC legitimately (LOL - find something else to chat with your buddies) Join #n3ws at EFnet, that's legit and not to speak with your buddies, yep , you will fall asleep less stupid tonight ... class101 ___

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread shrek
Even better idea: Get sunset internet1 /me just solved problems 1-5 On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:40:26 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Airport x-ray software creating images of phantom weapons?

2004-11-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:46:50 GMT, Joel Merrick said: Maybe it'll get leaked on the net and we'll find out they use a hard coded DES key that I could crack with my casio watch ;) No, ROT13 is way leet strong crypto as long as nobody knows it, as Skylarov found out... ;) pgpG2hTqU9Pd6.pgp

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Mister Coffee
Danny wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? And? There are a hell of a lot of normal users on IRC too who don't

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread james edwards
Sorry to offend those that use IRC legitimately (LOL - find something else to chat with your buddies), but why the hell are we not pushing to sunset IRC? It is not IRC that is the problem, it is the people on IRC that cause problems. Guns don't kill people all by by themselves; people kill

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Bowes, Ronald (EST)
How exactly do you propose to accomplish this? IRC is an open protocol and there are many open clients and open servers which can run on any port, and run encrypted with SSL. So do you intend to scan every computer on the Internet on port 6667, and shut down every server found running, the

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread huhu
Danny wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: ? 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? email, http, aol users;)? 2) A considerable amount of script kiddies

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Jason
Unfortunately IRC is not the problem. Removing IRC will cause the systems that use it to leverage another control channel. The people that abuse it will use another forum... The problem is that systems exist that can be mass exploited and used to coordinate attacks and that there are people

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread shrek
Oh, crap s/Get/Why not/ Sorry On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:49:32 -0600, shrek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even better idea: Get sunset internet1 /me just solved problems 1-5 On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:40:26 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Danny
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:17:09 -0800, Mister Coffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danny wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Andrew Farmer
On 19 Nov 2004, at 08:35, Xavier Beaudouin wrote: Thanks. I thought that it had more meanings :-D Given that Firefox is integrated in Linux... It isn't. ... Result : Firefox is not integrated in Linux, it is a third party software as /bin/bash or whatever that is given as a giveaway on

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:40:26 EST, Danny said: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? 2) A considerable amount of script kiddies originate and grow through IRC? 3) A wee bit of software piracy occurs? 4) That many organized DoS attacks through PC zombies

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around? (Because anything less would be uncivilized)

2004-11-19 Thread Danny
Well, fellow F-D'ers, thanks to the vast array of intelligence and experience found on this list, my rant about abolishing IRC has been proven to be far from a solution. Maybe I will throw my suggestion in as Feature Request for Internet2. :D ...D ___

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Michael Rutledge
Wow, I think you have a great point! To add to the list, Los Angeles has quite a bit of crime, so I think that it should be removed from the face of the planet. Of course, I think some fraud has been occurring on eBay--remove them also. Oh, and some Catholic priests have been in the news for

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:12:31 EST, Crotty, Edward said: I'm not a Win based guy (troll?) - Un*x here - and even I was offended by #1. There is such a thing as runas for Windows. Yes, but is *the main design* of the system run as a mortal, and use the 'runas' for those things that need more?

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread dk
Danny wrote: Sorry to offend those that use IRC legitimately (LOL - find something else to chat with your buddies), but why the hell are we not pushing to sunset IRC? Many people use IRC; and still do. It's a legitimate medium I've used since the 80's for it's intended purpose. Your abolish

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Poof
Wow, NICE analogy Jeff! While IRC is here to stay... The future seems more like servers that're only hosted through big companies/etc as most datacenters are 'forbidding' use of IRC(Ports 6660-6669, 7000) on their network. Just a thought. ~ That's because the Internet is free and no one can

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Danny wrote: What would IT be like today without IRC (or the like)? Am I narrow minded to say that it would be a much safer place? Narrow minded or not, it's irrelevent. Sure, the world *might* be a little teenie bit safer without IRC, but then, the same could be said

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Tim
My mistake; I was referring to the discussion, collaboration, and creation, not the spread. You mentioned DDoS attacks below. I don't believe that use is a form of discussion, collaboration, or creation. Some say we should, but I am not one of those. My point was to get rid of the most well

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Gilliss
One alternative - silc. http://www.silcnet.org/ G On or about 2004.11.19 12:40:26 +, Danny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Danny
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:47:36 -0600, Bowes, Ronald (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How exactly do you propose to accomplish this? IRC is an open protocol and there are many open clients and open servers which can run on any port, and run encrypted with SSL. So do you intend to scan every

Re: [Full-Disclosure] University Researchers Challenge Bush Win InFlorida

2004-11-19 Thread Bart . Lansing
Paul Schmehl wrote on 11/19/2004 11:07:47 AM: --On Friday, November 19, 2004 12:12:10 AM + Jason Coombs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,1 0801,97614,00.html?nas=PM-97614 I wouldn't trust anything coming out of

[Full-Disclosure] [ GLSA 200411-27 ] Fcron: Multiple vulnerabilities

2004-11-19 Thread lewk
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gentoo Linux Security Advisory GLSA 200411-27 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://security.gentoo.org/ - - - - -

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Airport x-ray software creating images of phantom weapons?

2004-11-19 Thread Adam Jacob Muller
Rot 13 may not be strong but rot12 is. I once posted a string that I only rotated 12 chars to my blog and it took a month before anyone figured it out that probably says more about the iq of the people reading my blog than the security of rot13. Adam Where is it written in the

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Eric Paynter
On Fri, November 19, 2004 9:40 am, Danny said: 2) A considerable amount of script kiddies originate and grow through IRC? 3) A wee bit of software piracy occurs? 4) That many organized DoS attacks through PC zombies are initiated through IRC? 5) The anonymity of the whole thing helps to

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Danny
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:54:54 -0500, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? Isn't email the primary spreading mechanism of viruses? My mistake; I was referring to the discussion, collaboration, and creation, not the spread.

Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread john morris
Dear Joe, So many out there use MS OS doesnt make it the best just as so many people go to McDonalds doesnt mean they make the best food -- (FROM LINKS TO LINKS WE ARE ALL LINKED) cheers. morris ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.

Re: [Full-Disclosure] WiFi question

2004-11-19 Thread Esmond
On 10:50, Fri 19 Nov 04, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, November 18, 2004 09:32:27 AM -0600 Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:41:44 PM -0500 Lachniet, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it hard to believe that this is possible. 2.4Ghz is the

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Darren Wolfe
I have never replied to anything on this list (I read it to keep up to date on vulnerabilities, but im not really qualified to contribute anything) but this particular message has peaked my interest. 1. Agreed, by using flaws in IE they then go on to subvert mirc into spamming people. 2. They

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Robert Wesley McGrew
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:40:26 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? If you mean

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Bowes, Ronald (EST)
If you DID manage to take away IRC, they'd find another way to manage their bots. Perhaps they'd all migrate their DDoS nets to Battle.net. /jokes Ron Bowes Information Protection Centre Government Of Manitoba -Original Message- From: Danny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
An excellent question. On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:40:26 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread bkfsec
Andrew Farmer wrote: In fact, I'm not so sure it's even a component of Nautilus. Is this a recent change? Nope - it depends on how you install Nautilus, though. I know that on a number of RH systems I've had to configure lately, Mozilla is a dependancy (not firefox) because Nautilus seems to

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread n3td3v
I wish it was possible, but it just wouldn't work. The hackers would move onto the next best chat system, whatever that may be at the time. For it ever to work, you would need to ban all chat communications and peer 2 peer on the internet, and thats unlikely to happen, and would be hard to

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Why is IRC still around?

2004-11-19 Thread Tim
1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? Isn't email the primary spreading mechanism of viruses? should we sunset email? 2) A considerable amount of script kiddies originate and grow through IRC? And if there were no IRC, they would use AIM, or MSN

Re: [in] Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread Frank Knobbe
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 20:40, Jeremy Davis wrote: Are you able to change root's name in nix? Why not if the answer is no? (Things would break right? UID 0?) Knowing the account name is two-thirds of the battle. In windows it's fairly easy to change the admin name. Not a professional here just

RE: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

2004-11-19 Thread joe
I 100% agree with you. I never said MS was the best or even that they should always be used. In fact in many occasions I have pushed for alternative answers for companies who were customers. Being the best or even better doesn't mean you will become the most popular either. Look at Apple. Look

Re: [Full-Disclosure] SecurityForest - Public Release #1

2004-11-19 Thread loni
Hi Gregory, As to my knowledge, the internet is a global network and all the information contained within is openly available. I also don't see the "advantage" you have mentioned - are we at competition with one another ? Secondly, thanx for the complement on the "idea". As mentioned in