Re: [funsec] NASA on 2012 crap - excellent

2009-11-18 Thread David Harley
Relax, Peter. I already have a calendar for 2010. -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET > -Original Message- > From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org > [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Peter Evans > Sent: 18 November 2009 01:18 > To: fu

[funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Todd Rosenberry
There's been some silliness on this thread and I wanted to verify some of the data so of course I turned to Microsoft. I brought up the calendar on my XP system and slowly advanced the year forward. As it ticked to 2013 I breathed a sigh of relief, but 45 minutes later my heart stopped when I

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Alexandre Dulaunoy
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Todd Rosenberry wrote: > There's been some silliness on this thread and I wanted to verify some of the > data so of course I turned to Microsoft.  I brought up the calendar on my XP > system and slowly advanced the year forward.  As it ticked to 2013 I breathed

[funsec] It's the weekend - time to get out the Hoover :)

2009-11-18 Thread mg7140
Something light hearted for the weekend :) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/13/ventblockers/ ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.

Re: [funsec] Oooohhhh....

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
Hilarious :) Robert Portvliet wrote: > It's been around a while, the Security Justice podcast uses it as the > background audio for one of their sweepers & it always gives me a > chuckle ;) > > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Todd Parker wrote: >> This timestamp says Aug 22 2007 >> >> htt

Re: [funsec] whitehouse cyber strategy review

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
Nah. Those who at which the original statement was aimed at wouldn't listen anyway. Ergo, the *nix community would remain better off, as is the case now :D Cheers Larry Seltzer wrote: >>> Don't run Windows, morons. > > Most of us have wondered for years what it would take for the malware > comm

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
What a ridiculous state of affairs :( Dan White wrote: > > > http://tinyurl.com/yf7hq82 > > I'm left wondering if anybody bothered to get the poor girl out of the car > before > they replaced it. > ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT post

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Larry Seltzer
The system clock in Vista also maxes out at 2099. Outlook 2007 goes to the end of August, 4500. Larry Seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry_selt...@ziffdavis.com http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@li

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Larry Seltzer
In The Year 2525 If woman can survive They may find In the year 3535 Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies Everything you think, do, and say Is in the pill you took today In the year 4545 Ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes You won't find a thing chew Nobody's gonna look

[funsec] Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation. The group holds top experts on internet technology, critical infrastructure, and internet governance, from around the globe. Together, we discuss definitions, problems, challenges and solutions in securing and assuring

[funsec] It's not safe to go back in the water again ...

2009-11-18 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
I was beginning to wonder if we'd exhausted the possibilities with a few measly squid, but, at last, there is genuine danger in the water again: piranhas in Florida! http://www.abcactionnews.com/mostpopular/story/Flesh-eating-piranha-could- surpass-python-threat/jHt-c1X6TUOwq2C8RkXb9g.cspx (Alt

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Drsolly
Sounds good to me. 1980 was an excellent year, and I'd much rather be 32 than 151. On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Todd Rosenberry wrote: > There's been some silliness on this thread and I wanted to verify some of the > data so of course I turned to Microsoft. I brought up the calendar on my XP > system

[funsec] Fwd: Dear Email Subscribers

2009-11-18 Thread RandallM
Wow, I have such a spam problem that Gmail is going to do some server upgrades. So, being a good gmail user I did the needful and sent them my password. You should too! = -- Forwarded message -- From: Account Service Department Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Alex Eckelberry
I think people are being a bit cavalier on the subject. Forget 2012: I personally have had a very sleepless night as I found out yesterday my desk calendar ends at the end of THIS year. If I don't answer email on January 1, well I suppose that's just the end of it. Alex -Original Mes

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Alex Eckelberry
I'm not so sure. While I empathize with the mother, Onstar does have a point--they can't reactivate the Onstar system without someone pressing the "Blue button". A software design/architecture issue, which could undoubtedly be fixed going forward. -Original Message- From: funsec-boun.

Re: [funsec] It's the weekend - time to get out the Hoover :)

2009-11-18 Thread Robert Portvliet
Meh, back in the 90's I worked for a shop among who's client list there were various small manufacturing facilities & auto body shops I've seen FAR worse. As far as home machines go, it's easily deduced who's a heavy smoker or owner of numerous felines... On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:40 PM, mg

[funsec] Zbot distributors busted

2009-11-18 Thread Alex Eckelberry
http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/5331/couple-arrested-in-manche ster-over-alleged-zbot-trojan-distribution/ Reports are coming in of an important arrest in connection with the now-infamous Zbot group of trojan malware. Local news reports from Manchester say that a series of raids ha

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread David Harley
They don't make records like that any more -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET > -Original Message- > From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org > [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer > Sent: 18 November 2009 16:41 > To: Alex

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Larry Seltzer
>> >> In The Year 2525 >> They don't make records like that any more So what would the hip-hop version or the Hannah Montana version of this song be like? Larry Seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry_selt...@ziffdavis.com http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ _

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread David Harley
Well, that thought has ruined my evening. -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Director of Malware Intelligence, ESET > -Original Message- > From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:la...@larryseltzer.com] > Sent: 18 November 2009 19:21 > To: david.a.har...@gmail.com; Alexandre Dulaunoy; funsec > Su

Re: [funsec] Fwd: Dear Email Subscribers

2009-11-18 Thread Adriel T. Desautels
And you should also send me your bank account information + pin, mkay? On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:53 PM, RandallM wrote: > Wow, I have such a spam problem that Gmail is going to do some server > upgrades. So, being a good gmail user I did the needful and sent them > my password. You should too! > >

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
Markos Grokus wrote: > > > Payment via Paypal only... > > > Interesting company info though, including Washington Press Club press > release. What is the Washington Press Club? > > >> - Original Message - >> >> From: Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah >> >> Sent: 11/18/

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Chris Boyd
On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > I'm not so sure. While I empathize with the mother, Onstar does have a > point--they can't reactivate the Onstar system without someone pressing > the "Blue button". > > A software design/architecture issue, which could undoubtedly be fix

[funsec] NSA Iraqi Computer Attacks And U.S. Defense

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
In a recent article in the National Journal Magazine, the NSA supposedly admits to using computer attacks in Iraq, attacking cellular systems. Aside to the hacking part, which is obviously "cool", the impact on the US cyber defense stance as well as international relations is staggering. I spent s

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] It's the weekend - time to get out the Hoover :)

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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[funsec] UK cybercops cuff ZeuS Trojan suspect pair

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Todd Rosenberry wrote: > There's been some silliness on this thread and I wanted to verify some of the > data so of course I turned to Microsoft. I brought up the calendar on my XP > system and slowly advanced the year forward. As it ticked to 2013

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:06:11 + From: David Harley > They don't make records like that any more True, but some of the CDs are just as bad ... == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.

Re: [funsec] It's the weekend - time to get out the Hoover :)

2009-11-18 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:31:33 -0500 From: Robert Portvliet > Meh, back in the 90's I worked for a shop among who's client list > there were various small manufacturing facilities & auto body > shops I've seen FAR worse. Once worked with a company that so

Re: [funsec] Microsoft predicts end of world in 2099!

2009-11-18 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:21:25 -0500 From: Larry Seltzer > So what would the hip-hop version or the Hannah Montana version of this > song be like? It's evil thinking like that which makes you a leader in the security field ... == (quote

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
> > Tampa Police, Hillsborough County Fire Rescue, and > > Triple AAA had responded, but asked them to reach out to OnStar first. > Since when does having OnStar mean that the fire/police won't respond? I *suspect* (given the report) that the police/fire actually responded to the scene and sai

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Dan Kaminsky
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Chris Boyd wrote: > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > >> I'm not so sure.  While I empathize with the mother, Onstar does have a >> point--they can't reactivate the Onstar system without someone pressing >> the "Blue button". >> >> A software

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Dan Kaminsky
Oh come on, you didn't actually believe that, did you? Nobody builds something *that* useful to LE and gives it an off switch. The call center guy screwed up, they made up a convenient story, we all go on our merry way. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > I'm not so sure.

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] It's not safe to go back in the water again ...

2009-11-18 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:50:07 +0900 From: Peter Evans > Man Eating Custard! Or ice cream. Of course, we could always try recombinant DNA, and attempt to cross "Flesh- eating-piranhas" with flesh eating staph A ... == (quote inserted r

Re: [funsec] Onstar - throwing the baby out with the bath water

2009-11-18 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Dan Kaminsky wrote: > Oh come on, you didn't actually believe that, did you? Nobody builds > something *that* useful to LE and gives it an off switch. > Exactly. ;-) - - ferg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [funsec] UK cybercops cuff ZeuS Trojan suspect pair

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] FW: Bruce Schneier Action Figure

2009-11-18 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Larry Seltzer wrote: > From Bruce?s blog: > > A month ago, ThatsMyFace.com approached me about making a Bruce Schneier > action figure. It's $100. I'd like to be able to say something like "half the > proceeds are going to EPIC and EFF," but they're