Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Nick FitzGerald
Michael Blanchard wrote: > ... > Life is full of choices, it's a shame that most folks (mostly outside > this list mind you) have no idea what they're giving up if they make > some of these choices That's not the real shame... The real shame is the greivous failure of our education system

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 03:33:42PM +, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) wrote: > When will people rise up and speak with their dollars and not buy these > products until the TOS gets more realistic? Been there, done that. I have no Microsoft products. I have no Kindle or Nook or similar. I hav

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
, MA 01772 -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Drsolly Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:08 AM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? It's the

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Message- From: Gary Buhrmaster [mailto:gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:06 AM To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) Subject: Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgs...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:47 AM To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) Cc: noloa...@gmail.com; FunSec List Subject: Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Blanchard, Michael (Info

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Drsolly
It's the same with beer. You only get to have it temporarily. On Mon, 3 Dec 2012, Paul Ferguson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) > wrote: > > > Yah, those TOS's have to change I had no idea Apple's TOS was so > > bad... Amazon can wipe your kindle wit

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Paul Ferguson
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) wrote: > Yah, those TOS's have to change I had no idea Apple's TOS was so bad... > Amazon can wipe your kindle without notice, including wiping all your e-books > with zero compensation or return... > So can Google (to your And

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
t EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:28 PM To: FunSec List Subject: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of pr

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-03 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:57:57PM -0600, Richard Golodner wrote: > I agree completely. The only thing I store in Amazon's cloud are baby > pictures, music, and miscellaneous junk I would not mind loosing or > having stolen. The problem is not what you, personally, are storing. The problem

Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-02 Thread Richard Golodner
On Sun, 2012-12-02 at 18:27 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Here's one of my big complaints with the cloud. We have done such a > poor job over the years of protecting data within our purview, we move > it to the cloud and provide another layer of indirection. I agree completely. The only t

[funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?

2012-12-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Here's one of my big complaints with the cloud. We have done such a poor job over the years of protecting data within our purview, we move it to the cloud and provide another layer of indirection. That's 2x the point of failures, and at least an additional layer of corporate rabbit holes. Couple t