rights/responsibilities

1998-09-22 Thread Steve Kurtz
Greetings, Rather than attempt a detailed refutation of parts of Thomas Lunde's post of today, I'm merely going to point out a few things (once again) that this list seems resigned to ignore. Work, a form of human action, involves intention, motivation, purpose. Otherwise it would be described a

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-22 Thread Thomas Lunde
gt; To: futurework <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: September 22, 1998 1:58 PM Subject: rights/responsibilities >Greetings, > >Rather than attempt a detailed refutation of parts of Thomas Lunde's post >of today, I'm merely going to point out a few things (once again) that this >l

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-22 Thread Steve Kurtz
Thomas Lunde wrote: > ( by the way, I see this as the > implied question, Does or should everyone have to work?) Since I define work as required human actions, my answer is YES. > ... to exist is to engage in work. A passive, vegetative human cannot survive for many days independently; so so

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-24 Thread Steve Kurtz
Greetings, I received one response off list which I will share with you. The author wishes to remain anonymous, having insufficient time to engage in ongoing discussions. Steve Kurtz - Dear Steve, Thanks for your posting Re: rights

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-25 Thread Steve Kurtz
s." What are we, a bunch of sheep that have to be so > constrained that any action outside of communitarian responsibilites should > be punished by no rewards, acknowledgement or respect? Self-valued (subjective) actions can be in isolation, but only a hermit would exist with

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-26 Thread Tor Forde
Steve Kurtz wrote: > > Dear Thomas, > > > Your axe is social justice; mine is long term habitat health and > minimization of scarcity induced conflicts. You accept the system at base, > and plea for redistribution of credits. My view is equal slices of an > insufficient renewable pie results i

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-26 Thread Thomas Lunde
-Original Message- From: Steve Kurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: futurework <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: September 25, 1998 11:35 AM Subject: Re: rights/responsibilities >Dear Thomas, > >> Thomas: Come on guys having a piss requires "human actions". > &

Re: rights/responsibilities

1998-09-26 Thread Steve Kurtz
eful as part of the solution to the human predicament. You disagree. > >> That a person cannot > >> have or perform valuable actions independant of "communitarian > >> responsibilities." What are we, a bunch of sheep that have to be so > >> constrained that any

Re: rights/responsibilities(Tor)

1998-09-26 Thread Steve Kurtz
Dear Tor, Thank you for commenting. Any snow yet in your area? A light frost here a few days ago. I'll try to better explain my position. > It is certainly not right to construct a conflict between social justice > and ecological concerns! I don't think it is a construction; rather it is real

Re: rights/responsibilities(Tor)

1998-09-27 Thread Steve Kurtz
One important clarification: TF: > It is certainly not right to construct a conflict between social justice > and ecological concerns! SK: I don't think it is a construction; rather it is reality - the result of very rapid growth both in human numbers and in the impacts of rapid technological ch

Two Articles of Economic Rights & Responsibilities, again

2000-01-07 Thread WesBurt
Hi folks, Here's the third of three you missed. Yours for the New Year, WesBurt ~ Subj: Two Articles of Economic Rights & Responsibilities Date: 01/05/2000 10:25:39 AM Eastern Standard Time From: WesBurt CC:WesBurt BCC: deleted b