Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-12 Thread Dominik Vogt
A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just causing trouble. Reasoning: * Most of the EWMH features are intende

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-12 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just ca

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-12 Thread Jim C. Brown
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-12 Thread Ethan Blanton
Dominik Vogt spake unto us the following wisdom: > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just causing troub

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread George 'Nephrite' Potapov
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread Olivier Chapuis
Dominik Vogt a écrit : A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just causing trouble. Reasoning: * Most of the

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread Ahmed Abdalla
Dominik Vogt wrote: > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just causing trouble. > > Reasoning: > > * Mos

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread Patrick Börjesson
On 2006-03-12 23:59, Ethan Blanton uttered these thoughts: > Dominik Vogt spake unto us the following wisdom: > > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it ha

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread Jim C. Brown
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:58:44PM +0100, Patrick B??rjesson wrote: > > If there is a bug or misfeature which should be fixed, I would like to > > know so that I can make sure it is addressed. > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1455264&forum_id=665 > After reading that thread,

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread Pekka Marjola
> A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just causing trouble. I remember anxiously waiting for fvwm to bet

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-13 Thread Ethan Blanton
Patrick Börjesson spake unto us the following wisdom: > > If there is a bug or misfeature which should be fixed, I would like to > > know so that I can make sure it is addressed. > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1455264&forum_id=665 Ahh, this is actually a common problem for u

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-22 Thread Olivier Chapuis
Ethan Blanton a écrit : Patrick Börjesson spake unto us the following wisdom: If there is a bug or misfeature which should be fixed, I would like to know so that I can make sure it is addressed. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1455264&forum_id=665 Ahh, this is actually a c

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-22 Thread Ethan Blanton
Olivier Chapuis spake unto us the following wisdom: > Ethan Blanton a écrit : > >Patrick Börjesson spake unto us the following wisdom: > > > >>>If there is a bug or misfeature which should be fixed, I would like to > >>>know so that I can make sure it is addressed. > >> > >>http://sourceforge.net/f

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-22 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim > mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support > completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the > FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-22 Thread Olivier Chapuis
Dominik Vogt a écrit : On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the FULLSCREEN stuff. Every

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-24 Thread Ethan Blanton
Olivier Chapuis spake unto us the following wisdom: > Now a note on _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP (and _NET_DESKTOP_VIEW PORT), the > EWMH spec says that this property (as a client msg) is for a pager. Thus > if gtk_window_present() uses this property (and one may understand that > it uses it in the *view o

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
Ethan Blanton a écrit : Olivier Chapuis spake unto us the following wisdom: Now a note on _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP (and _NET_DESKTOP_VIEW PORT), the EWMH spec says that this property (as a client msg) is for a pager. Thus if gtk_window_present() uses this property (and one may understand that it us

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-24 Thread Etan Reisner
Before I comment specifically, I'll introduce myself. I am (at least one) of the other gaim folk Ethan referred to. I also understand the problems with the EWMH for window managers that don't exactly fit into the standard paradigm, I'm an ion3 user. I am also quite interested in getting this (a

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-24 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 11:10:00PM +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > Ethan Blanton a écrit : > >Olivier Chapuis spake unto us the following wisdom: > > > >>Now a note on _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP (and _NET_DESKTOP_VIEW PORT), the > >>EWMH spec says that this property (as a client msg) is for a pager. Thus

Re: Removing EWMH support?

2006-03-27 Thread Olivier Chapuis
Etan Reisner a écrit : Before I comment specifically, I'll introduce myself. I am (at least one) of the other gaim folk Ethan referred to. I also understand the problems with the EWMH for window managers that don't exactly fit into the standard paradigm, I'm an ion3 user. I am also quite intere