Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Michael Cangelosi wrote: You've lived an awesome life man, I'm envious! Is there any copy of SPSS around in the open-source for Mac? SPSS is a commercial product There's R , and here's a bunch of OSS stuff

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

-- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Webster Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:58 PM To: G-Books Subject: Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules] On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:57 AM, Michael Cangelosi wrote: > > Hmm. I worked on the project that p

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:57 AM, Michael Cangelosi wrote: Hmm. I worked on the project that put SPSS together. Cards. Stacks of cards. Awesome! It's amazing that this list has the talented minds that put together such monolithically programs as that beast. I doubt that we would have the forecas

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

Hmm. I worked on the project that put SPSS together. Cards. Stacks of cards. Awesome! It's amazing that this list has the talented minds that put together such monolithically programs as that beast. I doubt that we would have the forecasting abilities we have today without those pains you ga

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

I have a friend at Portland State, and she used it for a class. Almost dropped her teeth when I told her I'd worked on the original. Ugh: scattergraphs! On Feb 6, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Howard Katz wrote: We still use SPSS here at the college I work at part-time, Peter--had it on Apple II floppy

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

We still use SPSS here at the college I work at part-time, Peter--had it on Apple II floppy, and then migrated to the IBM versions. Your legacy lives on. :) Later.Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

Hmm. I worked on the project that put SPSS together. Cards. Stacks of cards. Hated keying those cards; probably two bad ones for every one that came out right. Big IBM 360/67 in a building the size of gymnasium. One day, I loaded a stack in, went into the snack bar, put in change for a coke

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

Stardate 060206.17:19 -0500. A subspace message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] reads: These days, I'm so anti-commandline, I delete Terminal.app from all my OSX installs. Ouch. There are so many iface problems with Aqua and Finder, Teminal is an essential app IMO. Depends on what you do. OSX F

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

At 6:04 AM +1100 02/07/2006, Geoffrey Peters wrote: These days, I'm so anti-commandline, I delete Terminal.app from all my OSX installs. Ouch. There are so many iface problems with Aqua and Finder, Teminal is an essential app IMO. //You used a bubble sort for what?// ... and mention h

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:25 AM -0500 02/03/2006, phoenix wrote: Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons we have such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today. I ha

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

Stardate 060206.12:34 -0500. A subspace message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] reads: [*] The Art of Computer Programming, a multi-volume book set by Don Knuth. The true bible of codespinning. Aye, and as a quiet young geeky high school student, I devoured the lot. I built my first two computers fr

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

At 12:25 AM -0500 02/03/2006, phoenix wrote: Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons we have such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today. I have to disagree. It's not laziness - it's incompetence. Bac

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

At 10:32 AM -0500 02/03/2006, Kurt Cypher wrote: yes, there are lazy programmers out there I miss the days of hauling three racks of cards up and down two flights of stairs, from my desk to the machine room and back, each time I had a run to do. It kept us codespinners in good shape! Of c

Re: [OT] The old days

Amen! I'm retired at age 55 with no debt because for the last couple decades I've bought what I need instead of what I want. I buy a new compact car every 10 years, live in a house I inherited and rehabbed, and buy the cheapest new Mac every 5 years or so. My one disappointment with

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On 2/3/06 10:46 AM, "Peter Apockotos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed > too quickly. The testing phase - you mean that period after the application has been given to the customer, right? I look back on my days as a programmer and

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On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand. You would think it would be the reverse. It's all about money. Software companies need to add features so they

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Kurt Cypher wrote: On 2/3/06, Peter Apockotos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed too quickly. Peter Apockotos Rushed and lacking resources to do more comprehensive testing. Kurt I think rushing is

Re: [OT] The old days

On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote: It's all about money. Software companies need to add features so they can persuade you to buy the latest release. Hardware companies need to persuade you that you need new features (video editing anyone?) so they can sell you faster ha

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On 2/3/06, Peter Apockotos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without violating any of my NDA's. The testing phase is also rushed > too quickly. > > Peter Apockotos Rushed and lacking resources to do more comprehensive testing. Kurt -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Do

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On Feb 2, 2006, at 23:53, G-Books wrote: The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand. You would think it would be the reverse. It's all about money. Software companies need to add features so they can persuade you

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Kurt Cypher wrote: My point is that yes, there are lazy programmers out there (I've worked with some of them), but unfortunately, a lot of times the programmers are forced to take shortcuts that cause bloat, merely because they have no choice. Someone much higher t

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On 2/3/06, phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software > development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons we have > such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today. In a previous life as a programmer, any bloat in the apps

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

Quoth Caleb Cupples : >> The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power >> that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand. >> You would think it would be the reverse. > > I could do 90% of what I do now with my Lombard running OS 9.2.2 with > 192 MB of RAM on my 190

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Thursday 02 February 2006 23:00, Peter Apockotos wrote: > The size of programs and the amount of memory and processing power > that is needed to run them has really gotten out of hand. > You would think it would be the reverse. I could do 90% of what I do now with my Lombard running OS 9.2.2 wi

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: On Thursday 02 February 2006 22:50, Peter Apockotos wrote: Oh I am not that nostalgic of those days. They can stay in the past. But you would think the web would have grown a lot more since then. But everything is really the same. Well, I'll

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Thursday 02 February 2006 22:50, Peter Apockotos wrote: > Oh I am not that nostalgic of those days. They can stay in the past. > But you would think the web would have grown a lot more since then. > But everything is really the same. Well, I'll agree there. Add in the fact that we use word p

Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: For those that are a little nostalgic of these old times, I just found out an unbelievable fun to use application for OS X. It's called GLTerminal. GLTerminal emulates a 1970¹s terminal monitor, complete with flaws in brightness, warped d

[OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

on 02/02/06 23:33, Michael A. Howard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Peter Apockotos wrote: >> No I remember those days and I am only thirty. Now gopher was a pain. >> > Archie and Gopher - great tools in their day but thankfully those days > are long gone. I almost remember setting up uucp to get