Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Kent
Clark, Right on the money. For the rest, take a read of the book Icon. Tons of insight into Steve, Apple and the entire industry. Ron On Friday, January 13, 2006, at 04:42AM, Clark Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 9:16 PM -0500 1/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Sorry but I see somethi

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread darm0k
At 8:38 AM -0500 01/13/2006, Alan Miller wrote: Unless of course you have trouble typing or might be dyslexic and have trouble getting the letters in the correct order, or you live your live with a spell checker running all the time. I had a project partner in college for several years, that w

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Diane
> They're astonished that it works, and they forget about it before I > leave their office. > > I'm slowly larnin' them, though. As they come in with some issue or > > It's odd. Only Windows users seem to have this problem. All of my Mac > users get it right away. I still have a couple of

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 13, 2006, at 8:02 AM, diane wrote: I am just saying that in many instances (and a point of sale system is a great example) they are slower. actually, POS systems are ideal candidates for a GUI, just not one that requires a mouse; this is what touch screens are for. But I sympathiz

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread diane
At 7:33 AM -0700 1/13/06, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Alan Miller wrote: Unless of course you have trouble typing or might be dyslexic and have trouble getting the letters in the correct order, or you live your live with a spell checker running all the time. Some of us

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Terry McCune
GUIs are rarely more efficient or faster than a CLI. But man is mostly a visual critter, so a GUI is an easier tool with which to guide those who won't RTFM. - Dan. I can second that statement that man is mostly a visual critter. We tend to forget that the GUI was designed after people at

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 12, 2006, at 10:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (except the folks at Intuit-dang-they were grumpy!). This is grumpy time of the year for accounting and tax software folks, the start of the push to those 24/7 weeks just before April 15. (My dad was an accountant, had his own tax bus

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Alan Miller wrote: Unless of course you have trouble typing or might be dyslexic and have trouble getting the letters in the correct order, or you live your live with a spell checker running all the time. Some of us are just that much more visual than others!

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 12, 2006, at 8:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GUIs are rarely more efficient or faster than a CLI. But man is mostly a visual critter, so a GUI is an easier tool with which to guide those who won't RTFM. Dear ghu, we've now descended to arguing over THIS??? It's 1984 all over

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-13 Thread Alan Miller
Unless of course you have trouble typing or might be dyslexic and have trouble getting the letters in the correct order, or you live your live with a spell checker running all the time. Some of us are just that much more visual than others! -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer <°<

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mum, Wacom had a huge booth-got to see their tablets in 4 different booths, actually I bought some software for our nonprofit-cheaper than through other sites... Fun to watch people react to new things. Lots of folks having a good time. I LOVED it. I am into the artistic part of the show-the d

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:38 AM -0800 1/12/06, sandra ragan wrote: Just heard from a trusted friend that this years show is very disappointing over all... only half the usual size... and missing major vendors like Wacom and the DevDepot truck sale. I was planning to drive up (2.5 hrs one way) in hopes of getting a

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread darm0k
At 9:19 PM -0500 01/12/2006, diane wrote: At 5:10 PM -0800 1/12/06, sandra ragan wrote: Take the near demise of the Desktop metaphor Finder (specifically as iconic/object representations) in the first round of OSX... I for one spent 5 years in a firm moving people from command line interfaces

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread Clark Martin
At 9:16 PM -0500 1/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry but I see something completely different. I come into Apple when it was being run by a fizzy water merchant. The company was unfocused and losing marketshare despite having a superior vision. The company had competing divisions which used c

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread Clark Martin
At 11:31 AM -0800 1/12/06, sandra ragan wrote: Sounds like they rushed it out for the show... not uncommon... but disheartening. Your other point is one I've made to critical PC users on many occasions... the Dell/Windoz machines are meant to be the old "salesman's version" of the Chevy/Ford.

Re: GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread R. P. Bell
Diane wrote, "I see someone in a store with their GUI cash register typing one word, reach for the mouse, type, reach, etc, and all I can say is "TAB KEY!" ROTFL...that's ~exactly~ what I do; or I will mutter, "press the TAB key, press the TAB key, press the TAB key" under my breath, just loud e

GUIs Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread diane
At 5:10 PM -0800 1/12/06, sandra ragan wrote: Take the near demise of the Desktop metaphor Finder (specifically as iconic/object representations) in the first round of OSX... I for one spent 5 years in a firm moving people from command line interfaces to GUIs... not because it made money, but b

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry but I see something completely different. I come into Apple when it was being run by a fizzy water merchant. The company was unfocused and losing marketshare despite having a superior vision. The company had competing divisions which used company politics to play executives off each other for

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread sandra ragan
Sometimes it looks like the focus is more on what he personally wants than what we... the users... need or want. Take the near demise of the Desktop metaphor Finder (specifically as iconic/object representations) in the first round of OSX... I for one spent 5 years in a firm moving people from

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 12, 2006, at 12:31 PM, sandra ragan wrote: Apple has a hard road to walk... getting people past the old wives tales.. Which it's been doing by leaps and bounds in the last few years. but I often fear Job's erratic personal agenda will deprive us of the platform we've come to depend

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread sandra ragan
Sounds like they rushed it out for the show... not uncommon... but disheartening. Your other point is one I've made to critical PC users on many occasions... the Dell/Windoz machines are meant to be the old "salesman's version" of the Chevy/Ford... if I only wanted cheap transportation I'd bu

Re: MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread bengi
>Just heard from a trusted friend that >this years show is very >disappointing over all... only half the >sual size... and missing major >vendors like Wacom and the >DevDepot truck sale. I confirm! I am here at the MW and a lot of exibitors are missing. I saw a couple of vendors (OWC, dont' r

MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread sandra ragan
Just heard from a trusted friend that this years show is very disappointing over all... only half the usual size... and missing major vendors like Wacom and the DevDepot truck sale. I was planning to drive up (2.5 hrs one way) in hopes of getting a bigger HD for my powerbook and some good soft

MacWorld Expo

2006-01-12 Thread sandra ragan
Just heard from a trusted friend that this years show is very disappointing over all... only half the usual size... and missing major vendors like Wacom and the DevDepot truck sale. I was planning to drive up (2.5 hrs one way) in hopes of getting a bigger HD for my powerbook and some good soft