On Saturday, December 4, 2004, at 10:21 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
But it's interesting that the password can be bypassed if the user
pulls a stick of RAM and resets PRAM 3 times thereafter... Do you
think that's an Apple-designed back door?
Yes, absolutely. Otherwise a random stranger,
Just as a matter of theoretical curiosity: does the Firmware password
prevent access to a hard drive that is being enslaved via Firewire
Target mode?
Walter
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on 04/12/04 04:54, walter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just as a matter of theoretical curiosity: does the Firmware password
prevent access to a hard drive that is being enslaved via Firewire
Target mode?
It doesn't prevent access, it prevents booting from a different disk. So, if
you set your
On 4 Dec 2004, at 09:31, Bruce Johnson wrote:
You can set a Open Firmware password that will prevent this trick;
it's just a minor hassle for the user. A good idea if you have
confidential stuff on your laptop. Don't forget the password though...
On 4 Dec 2004, at 20:54, walter wrote:
Just as a matter of theoretical curiosity: does the Firmware password
prevent access to a hard drive that is being enslaved via Firewire
Target mode?
Walter
According to http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106482 ,
the OF protection prevents
Sorry for this, but how do you go about setting a firmware password? I
even forget how to boot into the firmware area...can anybody describe
the process for me?
Tim
On Dec 3, 2004, at 4:55 PM, Aaron Willems wrote:
If you want security, password protect the firmware on your Mac. This
will
On Saturday, December 4, 2004, at 05:04 AM, Ben Dyer wrote:
On 4 Dec 2004, at 20:54, walter wrote:
Just as a matter of theoretical curiosity: does the Firmware password
prevent access to a hard drive that is being enslaved via Firewire
Target mode?
Walter
According to
From: Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot off of the install disk and you can set/change the password.
Doesn't say much for the security of OS X...
Why? It doesn't say anything. If one has physical access to a machine, its
administrator is usually in big trouble anyway, regardless of the
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why are you saying that about OS X? You don't like it?
It's one of the most secure active operating system these days...
I wouldn't use anything else!!!
It just never hurts to be self critical.
Complacency can do a lot of harm!
Larry
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) If you let the bad guy physically sit down at your computer,
it's no longer your computer.
Yes, I can see that one holding up against an argumentative
Windoze user having been criticised for Windoze's crap security...
Larry
on 04/12/04 07:58, Tim Collier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for this, but how do you go about setting a firmware password? I
even forget how to boot into the firmware area...can anybody describe
the process for me?
Tim
On Dec 3, 2004, at 4:55 PM, Aaron Willems wrote:
If you want
on 04/12/04 10:40, Larry le Mac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) If you let the bad guy physically sit down at your computer,
it's no longer your computer.
Yes, I can see that one holding up against an argumentative
Windoze user having been criticised
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree that we must stay objective but I think that this is misleading.
I agree, I just have a tendancy to play the devil's advocate... ;o)
Larry
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Why? It doesn't say anything. If one has physical access to a
machine, its administrator is usually in big trouble anyway,
regardless of the operating system.
School, office or whatever; a system CD, 15 minutes...
I can see plenty of security issues!!
Of course there are security issues, but
Read through what the Masters of Paranoia have to say, in the NSA
guide to securing OS X:
http://www.nsa.gov/snac/os/applemac/osx_client_final_v.1.pdf
Bruce,
That's awesome! Good find!
From the same document:
Open Firmware protection can be violated if the user has physical
access to the
Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Open Firmware password protection can be bypassed if the user
changes
the physical memory configuration of the machine and then resets the
PRAM 3 times
(holding down command-option-P-R during boot).
Funny..Every Apple Tech I have ever spoken to has recommended that if it
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot off of the install disk and you can set/change the password.
Doesn't say much for the security of OS X...
Larry
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From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When booting from the install CD, you can go in the Apple
menu when the installer is loaded and select the option to
change the Admin password, but you won't have to enter
the existing one. Very handy if you should ever forget it...
Or screw with someone
Boot off of the install disk and you can set/change the password.
Doesn't say much for the security of OS X...
Why? It doesn't say anything. If one has physical access to a machine,
its administrator is usually in big trouble anyway, regardless of the
operating system.
Marcin Wichary
On 03/12/04 12:24, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot off of the install disk and you can set/change the password.
Doesn't say much for the security of OS X...
That's why you might want to install the Firmware password.
Why are you saying that
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Subject: Re: OS X first timer - blank password
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:27:54 +0100
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When booting from the install CD, you can go in the Apple
menu when the installer is loaded and select the option to
change the Admin password, but you
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Mac
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:25
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: OS X first timer - blank password
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot off of the install disk and you can set/change the password.
Doesn't
If you want security, password protect the firmware on your Mac. This will
prevent anyone from booting off a CD and changing the password. One word of
advice, though. Make sure you don't forget the firmware password. It's 100%
percent full proof. If you forget the password, your screwed.
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At 1:48 PM -0800 12/3/04, John C. Swanson wrote:
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Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:25
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: OS X first timer - blank password
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot off of the install disk
On Dec 3, 2004, at 10:27 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When booting from the install CD, you can go in the Apple
menu when the installer is loaded and select the option to
change the Admin password, but you won't have to enter
the existing one. Very handy if you
Hi all,
My sister installed Jaguar on her Wallstreet last night, and she
managed not to provide a password during the installation. Now she's
trying to install software, and it's asking for the admin password.
She says it won't let her leave the password field blank.
Is there any way to reset
The National Enquirer reports at 1:20 AM -0700 12/2/04, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Hi all,
My sister installed Jaguar on her Wallstreet last night, and she
managed not to provide a password during the installation. Now she's
trying to install software, and it's asking for the admin password.
She
On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:20 AM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Hi all,
My sister installed Jaguar on her Wallstreet last night, and she
managed not to provide a password during the installation. Now she's
trying to install software, and it's asking for the admin password.
She says it won't let her leave
the password using the
reset function on the install disks, the reset program will ask for the
original password, whereupon you would again enter the blank space ass the
password.
Run
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From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OS X first
Andrew, Time, et al,
If the password space is left blank when the system is first set up, then
the password is in fact a blank space. All one has to do is hit reurn or
the OK button and that will move past the authorization process. This is
important also because if you do decide to reset the
on 02/12/04 18:28, Andrew Kershaw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew, Time, et al,
If the password space is left blank when the system is first set up, then
the password is in fact a blank space. All one has to do is hit reurn or
the OK button and that will move past the authorization
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