Re: Pismo improvement

Actually, the entire PPC line is derived from a lot of IBM's POWER series, hence the name: PowerPC. The 970 produces a lot more heat because IBM went with a fairly power-hungry wide&deep pipeline. As power consumption in a silicon device increases, so does the heat produced. IBM didn't exactly

Re: Pismo improvement

I love Mac people, if Windows were are critical as we are, no one would use an MS product. As soon as the G5 is out - "When does my G5 PowerBook arrive" Heehee. Obviously IBM and Apple have or will or are trying to see if it can be done, Apple said don't expect it within the next year publ

Re: Pismo improvement

stewart ebneter said: > I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they > are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with > the cooling system in the g5 desktop. So why does there exist a 1.3 Ghz "portable" version at IBM of the G5 processor, if

Re: G5 Laptops [was] Pismo improvement

On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:13:28AM -0600, Melvin Watts wrote: : : Well, we all know that if apple and IBM continue to use the same chip : technology, they better reconstruct the design of laptops. . .it just : simply comes down to heat transfer. It takes a lot more heat [more than : what the ch

Re: G5 Laptops [was] Pismo improvement

Well, we all know that if apple and IBM continue to use the same chip technology, they better reconstruct the design of laptops. . .it just simply comes down to heat transfer. It takes a lot more heat [more than what the chip can generate] to heat the air!!?? So really the problem is air and sp

Re: G5 Laptops [was] Pismo improvement

On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 07:26 AM, Charles wrote: On Saturday, December 6, 2003, at 10:33 PM, Stewart Ebneter wrote: I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in

Re: Pismo improvement

Pismo's were brought on the market to satisfy the video edititng enthusiast. And as we know, any application extensive programs like FCP, iMovie 2+3 need a lot of head room as to processing power, and ram. Well, sad to say lombard's were never intended to market as video processing machines. .

Re: Pismo improvement

Actually, I was just expressing my annoyance that the Pismo is going up to 900Mhz/1Ghz on their G3 chips (so you get to decide between G3/900 and G4/500 as upgrade options)... while the Lombard users get to choose between G3/500 and G4/500 as upgrade options. The G3/900 chips aren't different e

Re: Pismo improvement

The pismo is a great machine, but the lombard is 1. 66mhz, and 2. missing firewire. Other than that, it's an absolutely wonderful machine as well. Tom In a message dated 12/8/03 11:18:39 AM, you wrote: >Then there are those of us who buy used machines off the swap list or >out of pawn shops

Re: Pismo improvement

Then there are those of us who buy used machines off the swap list or out of pawn shops and a G4 or a G5 is about as real a prospect as Bush resigning in disgrace. > Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning > sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiti

Re: G5 Laptops [was] Pismo improvement

Look at the new generation of G5s that are coming out next month. They use a 90nm fab process, and from what I have been reading the chips dissipate less heat than the current generation. G5's in laptops are do-able. Apple and IBM have to get the chip's power consumption down low enough, and th

Re: G5 Laptops [was] Pismo improvement

This argument was used about the G4's "never being cool enough" to put in a Powerbook, in 2000.. Of course temp issues have never slowed down the dark side--they just supercharge the cooling fans. Maybe the Mac laptops can become like Windows, measured by decibels of noise not Mhz of speed! to

G5 Laptops [was] Pismo improvement

On Saturday, December 6, 2003, at 10:33 PM, Stewart Ebneter wrote: I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. I wouldn't put money on it. How many ti

Re: Pismo improvement

> Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning > sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed > mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early nex

Re: Pismo improvement

I think that it will around the same price, but don't hold me to that. Jason > Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning > sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed > mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on t

Re: Pismo improvement

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, stewart ebneter wrote: > I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they ^ > are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with > the cooling system in the g5 desktop. Careful... -- Non Il

Re: Pismo improvement

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 11:00:05PM -0600, Jason Long wrote: : : Eugene, : Lighten up, man! I rather expect that Apple will follow the same pattern : it did with the G4 with the first notebook variants of the new processor : following about a year or so behind the desktops. I hope that Apple can

Re: Pismo improvement

The chair recognizes Jason Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make it good... > Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning > sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed > mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the pric

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Eugene, Lighten up, man! I rather expect that Apple will follow the same pattern it did with the G4 with the first notebook variants of the new processor following about a year or so behind the desktops. Sure the timing's variable, but I have every confidence that they will stuff a G5, almost c

Re: Pismo improvement

I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. stewart ebneter -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://ww

Re: Pismo improvement

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:23:38PM -0500, Nick wrote: : : on 12/6/03 12:34 PM, Jason Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : > : > Now I can wait until the Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! : : Powerbook G5 are coming out next fall??? Where did you hear that? It's a rumor. Nothing more. Jason, pl

Re: Pismo improvement

It's all over the usual Mac rumors sites like http://www.macosrumors.com/ and http://www.appleinsider.com/. Although it seems likely that the desktops will be running G6s aka PowerPC 980 chips by that time. Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January

Re: Pismo improvement

on 12/6/03 12:34 PM, Jason Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >.. > .. > Now I can wait until the Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! > > Jason Powerbook G5 are coming out next fall??? Where did you hear that? n -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Elect

Re: Pismo improvement

I just upgraded my Pismo yesterday from 400 MHz. I really didn't bother to benchmark anything except my massive genealogy database in Reunion as other people have already provided them. Find time dropped from 3:43 to 1:40 Merge time dropped from 7:38 to 5:21 No problems with installation and I'v

Re: Pismo improvement

On 12/5/03 7:03 PM, 'edu' enlightened us by writing: >Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a >machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an >excellent machine and good looking too. >I want to know if someone can help me about the processor

Re: Pismo improvement

On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:19 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 05/12/03 12:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and

Re: Pismo improvement

The processor upgrades look good from what I've read. From what I've read the Powerlogix blue chip G3 900 is just as fast, if not faster, than the Newertech G4 500. Additionally, you don't have to send you 'book away, just the daughtercard. Gary On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:57 AM, [EMAIL

Re: Pismo improvement

On 05/12/03 12:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a > machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent > machine and good looking too. > I want to know if someone can help me about

Pismo improvement

Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and good looking too. I want to know if someone can help me about the processor upgrades that are available, are they worth the money and